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Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:44 pm
by paulmclaren
My opinion it is Joleon lescott?
Very harshly dropped at Munich, been fantastic since.
Deserves alot of praise as alot of fans have seen him as our weak link.
Special mention to Gael Clitchy, i think for the money we paid, buy of the season upto now.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:47 pm
by Beeks
Barreth Garry

But I agree with your opinion on Klingon

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:47 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
Clitchy? As in itchy clitoris?

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:54 pm
by Goaters 103
Milner, James (Midf)

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:11 pm
by Yffi_88
Moonchester. Apparently he's been doing the team talk whilst Mancini smashes moonbeam's back doors in in the showers.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:54 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
Eh ??... bollocks has he been the unsung hero , if anyone deserves that title then its Clichy.Lescott had a good game against the Munchenhausens but overall he has been average to slightly above average at best.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:04 pm
by bigblue
Unsung hero is yaya toure. Played in every game except for yesterday and is the anchor for us in possession. Allows these 20+ passing moves into goals to happen and is absolute class. If silva is pulling the strings up top, yaya is orchestrating from the back

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:05 pm
by Ted Hughes
I'll go with Lescott too. I think he has a really positive effect on the team & although we've not been totally convincing at the back, he's been as good as anybody there. Dropping him v Bayern was a rare throwback to Bob's whimsically ludicrous, game losing, gambles from last season, like picking Boateng & Boyata v Arsenal.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:08 pm
by Slim
bigblue wrote:Unsung hero is yaya toure. Played in every game except for yesterday and is the anchor for us in possession. Allows these 20+ passing moves into goals to happen and is absolute class. If silva is pulling the strings up top, yaya is orchestrating from the back


I like Yaya Toure for this, he gets slagged on here mercilessly and a lot of it with very little foundation.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:17 pm
by Ted Hughes
Slim wrote:
bigblue wrote:Unsung hero is yaya toure. Played in every game except for yesterday and is the anchor for us in possession. Allows these 20+ passing moves into goals to happen and is absolute class. If silva is pulling the strings up top, yaya is orchestrating from the back


I like Yaya Toure for this, he gets slagged on here mercilessly and a lot of it with very little foundation.


I slag him for his ability as a def midfielder, not as a footballer. He's a world class player. Just not if he has to protect the defence, where he runs out of steam & leaves holes. Alongside people like Milner, in a balanced midfield, he's an altogether different proposition & actually good defensively too.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:27 pm
by TheGOAT
Kolorov has improved a hell of a lot this season, he is most improved! unsung hero....
...has to be Gareth Barry no?

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:35 pm
by Slim
Kolarov has been really impressive in a couple of games this season.

Not so much in the derby match, he came on and celebrated 3 goals...don't think he touched the ball.

Barry cannot be "unsung" when so many people around here sing his praises.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:37 pm
by bigblue
Ted Hughes wrote:I slag him for his ability as a def midfielder, not as a footballer. He's a world class player. Just not if he has to protect the defence, where he runs out of steam & leaves holes.


I think that even though he plays further in the back, he is not instructed to be a traditional defensive mid. When we keep possession, about 60-70% of it is being played around between the back 4 and the defensive mids. Having a player like Yaya further away from goal allows us to draw out the 11 opposition players camped in their box. Makes the opposition become complacent from watching all these boring passes in a non-threatening area. Then bam - up the tempo and catch them off guard.

He is picked practically every game in a team that is running rampant. So to criticize him for what he doesn't do on the field (when we don't really know what exact instructions Mancini gives to every player) is quite harsh. Rather than slag him off for what he supposedly doesn't do, appreciate what he does do and the great value that brings to the team.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:40 pm
by Ted Hughes
bigblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I slag him for his ability as a def midfielder, not as a footballer. He's a world class player. Just not if he has to protect the defence, where he runs out of steam & leaves holes.


I think that even though he plays further in the back, he is not instructed to be a traditional defensive mid. When we keep possession, about 60-70% of it is being played around between the back 4 and the defensive mids. Having a player like Yaya further away from goal allows us to draw out the 11 opposition players camped in their box. Makes the opposition become complacent from watching all these boring passes in a non-threatening area. Then bam - up the tempo and catch them off guard.

He is picked practically every game in a team that is running rampant. So to criticize him for what he doesn't do on the field (when we don't really know what exact instructions Mancini gives to every player) is quite harsh. Rather than slag him off for what he supposedly doesn't do, appreciate what he does do and the great value that brings to the team.


No, I'm sorry, I know what he's supposed to do when someone runs off behind him into the box & if he fails to do it, he's failing the team, just as AJ was v Wolves.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:47 pm
by bigblue
Ted Hughes wrote:
bigblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I slag him for his ability as a def midfielder, not as a footballer. He's a world class player. Just not if he has to protect the defence, where he runs out of steam & leaves holes.


I think that even though he plays further in the back, he is not instructed to be a traditional defensive mid. When we keep possession, about 60-70% of it is being played around between the back 4 and the defensive mids. Having a player like Yaya further away from goal allows us to draw out the 11 opposition players camped in their box. Makes the opposition become complacent from watching all these boring passes in a non-threatening area. Then bam - up the tempo and catch them off guard.

He is picked practically every game in a team that is running rampant. So to criticize him for what he doesn't do on the field (when we don't really know what exact instructions Mancini gives to every player) is quite harsh. Rather than slag him off for what he supposedly doesn't do, appreciate what he does do and the great value that brings to the team.


No, I'm sorry, I know what he's supposed to do when someone runs off behind him into the box & if he fails to do it, he's failing the team, just as AJ was v Wolves.


Maybe part of the reason that Yaya doesn't track back is because of our faith in our defense to snuff out attacks. And then once we get the ball back, Mancini doesn't like to hoof it up field which puts us on the back foot again.

I've seen a few times this season where the opposition attack runs by Yaya, only for our defense to snuff it out. When they win it back, Yaya is occupying the gap in between the defense and midfield, allowing for an easy outlet pass to start a quick attack. If he tracked back, our only option would be to look for a long ball and hope that we keep it. When Yaya can get the ball in with time to look up, Silva, Balo, Nasri, Dzeko... are all making runs further up field to score a goal.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:51 pm
by Ted Hughes
bigblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
bigblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I slag him for his ability as a def midfielder, not as a footballer. He's a world class player. Just not if he has to protect the defence, where he runs out of steam & leaves holes.


I think that even though he plays further in the back, he is not instructed to be a traditional defensive mid. When we keep possession, about 60-70% of it is being played around between the back 4 and the defensive mids. Having a player like Yaya further away from goal allows us to draw out the 11 opposition players camped in their box. Makes the opposition become complacent from watching all these boring passes in a non-threatening area. Then bam - up the tempo and catch them off guard.

He is picked practically every game in a team that is running rampant. So to criticize him for what he doesn't do on the field (when we don't really know what exact instructions Mancini gives to every player) is quite harsh. Rather than slag him off for what he supposedly doesn't do, appreciate what he does do and the great value that brings to the team.


No, I'm sorry, I know what he's supposed to do when someone runs off behind him into the box & if he fails to do it, he's failing the team, just as AJ was v Wolves.


Maybe part of the reason that Yaya doesn't track back is because of our faith in our defense to snuff out attacks. And then once we get the ball back, Mancini doesn't like to hoof it up field which puts us on the back foot again.

I've seen a few times this season where the opposition attack runs by Yaya, only for our defense to snuff it out. When they win it back, Yaya is occupying the gap in between the defense and midfield, allowing for an easy outlet pass to start a quick attack. If he tracked back, our only option would be to look for a long ball and hope that we keep it. When Yaya can get the ball in with time to look up, Silva, Balo, Nasri, Dzeko... are all making runs further up field to score a goal.


You can't let top players have the ball unmarked in our penalty area. It's a weakness, not just from Yaya, & we can't win the Champ's Lg until we solve it.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:25 pm
by Patrick
Sir Alex Bacon Face of Cunty Bollox

Only he would have the arrogance to send the wing backs forward when beIng fed shit on a stick by a far superior team

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:53 pm
by bobby brows
Think Gaz Baz would be my under-rated player of the world. Never seems to get any credit and always seems to be the first to get criticsed where I sit in the ground, gives us everything and Liverpool were a joke to ever to try and negotiate and just pay the money instead.

It really annoys me when Joleon gets dropped or the media say he's not top class, think he's been quality for the last 18 months and I hope it's the same for the rest of his career.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:12 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
I would say Carl gets my vote.Very consistent in his opinion of Lescott despite him playing really well almost all the time.

Re: Our unsung hero this season?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:19 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I would say Carl gets my vote.Very consistent in his opinion of Lescott despite him playing really well almost all the time.


Everyone has "someone" to knock...a bit like your sneaky digs at Mancini ;)