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Alioune DVToure wrote:Just been arguing about this in the pub. If you're 35 yards off your line and the last line of defence, ball-to-hand is no kind of defence.... right? Surely a free kick and a straight red.... right?

If I'm wrong, someone please explain why. This is probably where you come in, B_RF.

Incidentally, they showed a clip of it after the game on sky sports as part of a montage and claimed "loads of talking points after the break." Did they bring it up? No. Nor did they bring it up at half time.

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:absolutely no way imho.[highlight]arms by his side[/highlight] and the third ricochet off the ball. he's gone in like a defender, not a keeper.

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I can't make my mind up about this. You often see ball to hand's not given due to the close proximity of the player. Then again you often see them given as well.

[highlight]I'd like to see a replay.[/highlight]

bluej wrote:

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:absolutely no way imho.[highlight]arms by his side[/highlight] and the third ricochet off the ball. he's gone in like a defender, not a keeper.

Not his left one.

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:

bluej wrote:

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:absolutely no way imho.[highlight]arms by his side[/highlight] and the third ricochet off the ball. he's gone in like a defender, not a keeper.

Not his left one.

first contact is his foot.

but he's playing it with his arm/hand? c'mon....

Ted Hughes wrote:This is a prime example of the media bias against City which some people say doesn't exist. It's not that they're deliberately ignoring it happened, it's just that they don't see it as a big thing because we are just City. Imagine the same thing v Utd; 11 players surround the ref, Ferguson running out of his dugout swearing & screaming, bollocking the 4th official.

Because we don't whinge & scream & because we're not Utd or Liverpool it's no big deal. If it had been either team,they would have talked about nothing else at half time & the managers would be going apeshit at full time.

[highlight]If that 'save' was made in the box people would be saying how well the keeper had done to spread himself & stop the ball. It's a nailed on, 100% red card.[/highlight]

Alioune DVToure wrote:

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:

bluej wrote:

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:absolutely no way imho.[highlight]arms by his side[/highlight] and the third ricochet off the ball. he's gone in like a defender, not a keeper.

Not his left one.

first contact is his foot.

but he's playing it with his arm/hand? c'mon....

How about my point in the OP? Keeper out of his area as last man. If it hits his hand, it's his fault.

Alioune DVToure wrote:

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:

bluej wrote:

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:absolutely no way imho.[highlight]arms by his side[/highlight] and the third ricochet off the ball. he's gone in like a defender, not a keeper.

Not his left one.

first contact is his foot.

but he's playing it with his arm/hand? c'mon....

How about my point in the OP? Keeper out of his area as last man. If it hits his hand, it's his fault.

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:

Alioune DVToure wrote:

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:

bluej wrote:

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:absolutely no way imho.[highlight]arms by his side[/highlight] and the third ricochet off the ball. he's gone in like a defender, not a keeper.

Not his left one.

first contact is his foot.

but he's playing it with his arm/hand? c'mon....

How about my point in the OP? Keeper out of his area as last man. If it hits his hand, it's his fault.

so a keeper who comes out of his area has to chop his arms of to be on the safe side?

nonsense - reina tackles like a defender when he's out of his area. unfortunately.

Ted Hughes wrote:This is a prime example of the media bias against City which some people say doesn't exist. It's not that they're deliberately ignoring it happened, it's just that they don't see it as a big thing because we are just City. Imagine the same thing v Utd; 11 players surround the ref, Ferguson running out of his dugout swearing & screaming, bollocking the 4th official.

Because we don't whinge & scream & because we're not Utd or Liverpool it's no big deal. If it had been either team,they would have talked about nothing else at half time & the managers would be going apeshit at full time.

If that 'save' was made in the box people would be saying how well the keeper had done to spread himself & stop the ball. It's a nailed on, 100% red card.

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:This is a prime example of the media bias against City which some people say doesn't exist. It's not that they're deliberately ignoring it happened, it's just that they don't see it as a big thing because we are just City. Imagine the same thing v Utd; 11 players surround the ref, Ferguson running out of his dugout swearing & screaming, bollocking the 4th official.

Because we don't whinge & scream & because we're not Utd or Liverpool it's no big deal. If it had been either team,they would have talked about nothing else at half time & the managers would be going apeshit at full time.

If that 'save' was made in the box people would be saying how well the keeper had done to spread himself & stop the ball. It's a nailed on, 100% red card.

first contact was with his foot - how many times do i have to point that out?

if vinny tackles someone in the box, and the ball bounces off the attacker, and then on to vinny's arm... all in the space of a second - is that a penalty?

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Reina was very very lucky.If a defender had done that in the box it should have been a penalty.

Did Atkinson see it and bottle it? We will never know