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Mario Götze
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:05 pmby Bluemoon16
Man United joined the race alongside Barca and Arsenal to sign 18 year old German international Mario Götze. And with midfielder Anderson out for three month, the rags will do anything to lure the central midfielder to Old Trafford instead of Sneijder who is 10 years older and probably more expensive.
My thought is that our midfield lacks something. Silva is brilliant, but he needs a fast player in central midfield who creates more chances to move the ball fast forward instead of just keeping possessions all the time and losing it on counters as evident in some games. Yaya is not bothered to use his physical strength to drive forward, Barry is too slow, old and cautious and Nasri is nowhere to be seen when you need him.
I’ve also noticed that we are weak on counter attacks, and that we rather pass the ball back, unless Silva gets hold of the ball in the right place (The fabulous assist to Dzeko on the 6-1 rags game).
In my opinion, a disciplined, young, fast and intelligent central midfielder like Mario Götze might be the right player City needs in midfield. And since he costs around or above 30M, I would swap him for Herman or even Nasri.
We won’t have Yaya during the African Cup and by the time he's back he will be exhausted and I doubt of his contributions by then as is the case right now. It would just piss me off to see the rags buying Mario Gotze and City lacking a player of his quality in midfield.
And well done Joe Hart, you’re a legend.
Re: Mario Götze
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:07 pmby Alioune DVToure
Bluemoon16 wrote:Man United joined the race alongside Barca and Arsenal to sign 18 year old German international Mario Götze. And with midfielder Anderson out for three month, the rags will do anything to lure the central midfielder to Old Trafford instead of Sneijder who is 10 years older and probably more expensive.
My thought is that our midfield lacks something. Silva is brilliant, but he needs a fast player in central midfield who creates more chances to move the ball fast forward instead of just keeping possessions all the time and losing it on counters as evident in some games. [highlight]Yaya is not bothered to use his physical strength to drive forward[/highlight], Barry is too slow, old and cautious and Nasri is nowhere to be seen when you need him.
I’ve also noticed that we are weak on counter attacks, and that we rather pass the ball back, unless Silva gets hold of the ball in the right place (The fabulous assist to Dzeko on the 6-1 rags game).
In my opinion, a disciplined, young, fast and intelligent central midfielder like Mario Götze might be the right player City needs in midfield. And since he costs around or above 30M, I would swap him for Herman or even Nasri.
We won’t have Yaya during the African Cup and by the time he's back he will be exhausted and I doubt of his contributions by then as is the case right now. It would just piss me off to see the rags buying Mario Gotze and City lacking a player of his quality in midfield.
And well done Joe Hart, you’re a legend.
With all due respect, do you have eyes that work?
Re: Mario Götze
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:12 pmby Bluemoon16
Everybody knows nobody can stop Yaya when he sprints with the ball forward and every time he’s done it, he either scored or created something. The only problem is, he doesn’t do that much often !!
Re: Mario Götze
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:15 pmby mr_nool
Bluemoon16 wrote:Everybody knows nobody can stop Yaya when he sprints with the ball forward and every time he’s done it, he either scored or created something. The only problem is, he doesn’t do that much often !!
Lucas stopped one of his runs today.
Re: Mario Götze
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:19 pmby Beeks
mr_nool wrote:Bluemoon16 wrote:Everybody knows nobody can stop Yaya when he sprints with the ball forward and every time he’s done it, he either scored or created something. The only problem is, he doesn’t do that much often !!
Lucas stopped one of his runs today.
Lucas completely out muscled him today
Re: Mario Götze
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:19 pmby PeterParker
Let's say we go with this scenario, imho Goetze will cost at least 40 mil. And to send Herman to them? Klopp is a world class manager, he won't bring a bomb in his dressing room. Imagine Herman didn't learn english, do you think he would learn german? + the financial fair play crap.
He will go to Bayern like almost every good player in Bundesliga.
Re: Mario Götze
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:28 pmby Bluemoon16
Let's say we go with this scenario, imho Goetze will cost at least 40 mil. And to send Herman to them? Klopp is a world class manager, he won't bring a bomb in his dressing room. Imagine Herman didn't learn english, do you think he would learn german? + the financial fair play crap.
He will go to Bayern like almost every good player in Bundesliga.
lmfao
Re: Mario Götze
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:01 pmby Douglas Higginbottom
Beeks wrote:mr_nool wrote:Bluemoon16 wrote:Everybody knows nobody can stop Yaya when he sprints with the ball forward and every time he’s done it, he either scored or created something. The only problem is, he doesn’t do that much often !!
Lucas stopped one of his runs today.
Lucas completely out muscled him today
on that occasion only I would have said.
Re: Mario Götze
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:09 pmby pepsi_dave
Gotze is good on FM12 FWIW.
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:48 amby Esky
pepsi_dave wrote:Gotze is good on FM12 FWIW.
Careful, say that any louder and you'll summon NQDP.
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:43 amby Biamp
Bluemoon16 wrote:Everybody knows nobody can stop Yaya when he sprints with the ball forward and every time he’s done it, he either scored or created something. The only problem is, he doesn’t do that much often !!
Indeed. And that's the reason why Lucas took the ball away from him yesterday. To me he looks tired at times and that shows the unwillingness to even bother recovering back or making the run. He needs some rest IMO.
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:25 amby Pretty Boy Lee
Biamp wrote:
Indeed. And that's the reason why Lucas took the ball away from him yesterday. To me he looks tired at times and that shows the unwillingness to even bother recovering back or making the run. He needs some rest IMO.
I saw yaya eat up the ground chasing back for a wonderful tackle yesterday.
I really think I live in a parallel universe sometimes. In my world Barry isn't useless, de Jong is good but not god like and yaya runs the show and isn't knackered before kickoff.
Nobody but me seems to live there though.
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:33 amby Slim
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Biamp wrote:
Indeed. And that's the reason why Lucas took the ball away from him yesterday. To me he looks tired at times and that shows the unwillingness to even bother recovering back or making the run. He needs some rest IMO.
I saw yaya eat up the ground chasing back for a wonderful tackle yesterday.
I really think I live in a parallel universe sometimes. In my world Barry isn't useless, de Jong is good but not god like and yaya runs the show and isn't knackered before kickoff.
Nobody but me seems to live there though.
And even in your make believe world, still no-one gives a fuck about Brisbane Roar.
The imagination will only stretch so far.
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:03 amby phips
Maybe its me but I dont think we should be worrying about buying any more midfielders (unless its de Rossi and maybe not even then). We need to get in some form of a 4th string forward as well as do something about our lackluster defense. oh and an actual 2nd choice keeper.
all that aside, i think Gotze is class. Germany has some amazing players atm.
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:52 amby Alex Sapphire
Bluemoon16 wrote:Everybody knows nobody can stop Yaya when he sprints with the ball forward and every time he’s done it, he either scored or created something. The only problem is, he doesn’t do that much often !!
best ask the manager about that
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:06 amby bluej
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
I saw yaya eat up the ground chasing back for a wonderful tackle yesterday.
I really think I live in a parallel universe sometimes. In my world Barry isn't useless, de Jong is good but not god like and yaya runs the show and isn't knackered before kickoff.
Nobody but me seems to live there though.
He does track back, burst forward, challenge etc, on occasions, it's the bits in between that worry people, the aimless jogging about.
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:10 amby Ted Hughes
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Biamp wrote:
Indeed. And that's the reason why Lucas took the ball away from him yesterday. To me he looks tired at times and that shows the unwillingness to even bother recovering back or making the run. He needs some rest IMO.
I saw yaya eat up the ground chasing back for a wonderful tackle yesterday.
I really think I live in a parallel universe sometimes. In my world Barry isn't useless, de Jong is good but not god like and yaya runs the show and isn't knackered before kickoff.
Nobody but me seems to live there though.
You did see it & it was fantastic & you saw it once. Why is it that it only happened once ? Did Liverpool only have one occasion when they broke down the middle ? The answer is no. Yaya fucked up on that occasion & chased back at pace to make up for his mistake, catching the bloke & putting in a great tackle. Barry or DeJong couldn't have done that as they are not fast enough. In our whole squad of midfielders, only Hargreaves, if fully fit, at his best, would be able to do that. Yaya can do that. You only saw him do it once because the rest of the time he is not willing to put in the effort required. He doesn't bust a gut very often; he cruises.
If we had a player who could do what Yaya does once & is willing to keep doing it, Yaya could laze around without it costing us then have more energy to go forward. When we find such a player (or players) Barry & Nige become squad players.
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:14 amby mr_nool
Yaya was Hamann-esque at times yesterday. the Dutch commentator summed it quite well:
"Yaya Touré has made the mid circle his territory."
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:20 amby Ted Hughes
mr_nool wrote:Yaya was Hamann-esque at times yesterday. the Dutch commentator summed it quite well:
"Yaya Touré has made the mid circle his territory."
It's always the same when he starts playing 3 games a week. Tbh if he hung around the D & stopped attacks when tired, I'd have no problem with it.
I remember Fred Ayre on commentary on one game saying we had applied for council planning permission for Hamann.
Re: Mario Götze
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:56 pmby sheblue
two marios in the one team?