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Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:16 pm
by Beeks
Nothing fucks me off more

I think it should be a bookable offence

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:23 pm
by King Kev
Beeks wrote:Nothing fucks me off more

How about constant diving/simulation and numerous niggly fouls that go unpunished?

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:28 pm
by Beeks
King Kev wrote:
Beeks wrote:Nothing fucks me off more

How about constant diving/simulation and numerous niggly fouls that go unpunished?


As much as I'd love to see Suarez sent off every game it's unfortunately not as clear cut as waving your hand in a referees face otherwise I'd be all for it ;-)

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:58 pm
by Mark (Blue Army)
Beeks wrote:Nothing fucks me off more

I think it should be a bookable offence


To be fair Aguero was doing it as well, but i agree it really fucks me off

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:14 am
by theboltonianblue
I personally think the refs should take the stance of a rugby ref, you disagree or talk to the ref you get a punished.

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:51 am
by Ted Hughes
theboltonianblue wrote:I personally think the refs should take the stance of a rugby ref, you disagree or talk to the ref you get a punished.


This would be difficult for refs to enforce as it stands now but if it was brought in as a rule ( only the captain can question the ref ) I would be in total agreement with it. After the game too; why should the officials be subject to the kind of intimidation the ref at OT had to put up with after yesterday's game ? Those players know it's not possible to change the outcome, what they are doing is trying to intimidate him, & all refs & linos, so that they won't give a decision against them in the future. It's out of order.

Ferguson is doing the same thing after the game in his tv interviews & that should carry a bigger penalty, especially for repeat offenders.

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:23 am
by Tokyo Blue
Beeks wrote:Nothing fucks me off more

I think it should be a bookable offence


Agreed.

I distinctly remember Pablo Zabaleta getting a yellow card for it - it was away at Birmingham City. Which at the time I was actually pleased about because a) it is not something I want to see a City player doing, and b) I thought something was going to be done about it on a wider scale. But no, it seems to have died a death. Funny that. They can outlaw snoods quickly enough though cos that's the real issue in the game today..

That said, it used to be the case that a ref could do whatever he wanted under the umbrella of ungentlemanly conduct or however it is worded. Sadly I've not seen the laws of the game for a bit so I'd have to check on that. So if the ref felt intimidated when surrounded by screaming inbreds at $old trafford, or felt a certain Uruguyan Esther Rantzen lookalike was diving like a starving kingfisher, he could book the relevant player(s) for ungentlemanly conduct. Strange how it only ever seems to apply to the Wolveses and Stokes of this league though.

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:27 am
by Dameerto
Ted Hughes wrote:
theboltonianblue wrote:I personally think the refs should take the stance of a rugby ref, you disagree or talk to the ref you get a punished.


This would be difficult for refs to enforce as it stands now but if it was brought in as a rule ( only the captain can question the ref ) I would be in total agreement with it. After the game too; why should the officials be subject to the kind of intimidation the ref at OT had to put up with after yesterday's game ? Those players know it's not possible to change the outcome, what they are doing is trying to intimidate him, & all refs & linos, so that they won't give a decision against them in the future. It's out of order.

Ferguson is doing the same thing after the game in his tv interviews & that should carry a bigger penalty, especially for repeat offenders.


If the FA had any balls they could impliment it easily - only captains allowed to query the ref. (or a designated outfield liason for keeper captains). Any decision involving a player would be expained to the captain with the player present. Desent would be a bookable offence. Let's see how many teams crowd the ref then.

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:39 pm
by LookMumImOnMCF.net
Couldn't agree more. Any attempt at influencing the ref is cheating and should be punished.

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:51 pm
by Chinners
I wave imaginary cards all the time, usually at swampdwellers when they are on MOTD

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:51 pm
by Slim
Kolarov, Zabs and Dzeko have all done the imaginary card waving this season.

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:57 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
Chinners wrote:I wave imaginary cards all the time, usually at swampdwellers when they are on MOTD


My goodness Chinners; you're a veritable Scamp.

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:23 pm
by Beeks
Slim wrote:Kolarov, Zabs and Dzeko have all done the imaginary card waving this season.


I know..and it was an across the board statement I made

It should be eradicated from the game

Captain complains only..anyone else carded

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:29 pm
by Mase
Beeks wrote:
Slim wrote:Kolarov, Zabs and Dzeko have all done the imaginary card waving this season.


I know..and it was an across the board statement I made

It should be eradicated from the game

Captain complains only..anyone else carded


The captain thing, is that for anything? Because if we start stopping the rest of the players speaking to the ref about any decision he makes we're putting them on a pedestal.

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:36 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
Slim wrote:Kolarov, Zabs and Dzeko have all done the imaginary card waving this season.



Add Aguero ,Silva and maybe Nasri and we are close to a full team of card wavers

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:43 pm
by Chinners
bleeding card waving foreigners ...

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:55 pm
by Im_Spartacus
Mase wrote:
Beeks wrote:
Slim wrote:Kolarov, Zabs and Dzeko have all done the imaginary card waving this season.


I know..and it was an across the board statement I made

It should be eradicated from the game

Captain complains only..anyone else carded


The captain thing, is that for anything? Because if we start stopping the rest of the players speaking to the ref about any decision he makes we're putting them on a pedestal.


He is the bloke in charge on the pitch. He should be on a pedestal. I know we can't always keep bringing up Rugby as an example, but I never spoke to a referee in 10 years of playing. However I would have a go (not in yer face though like happens today) at the ref in football matches every week because I knew it was possible to put the ref under pressure for a decision

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:10 pm
by Blue Since 76
If I was a ref I'd book any player who waved a card. It would soon stop it. That goes for City players, too

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:22 pm
by Beeks
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Mase wrote:
Beeks wrote:
Slim wrote:Kolarov, Zabs and Dzeko have all done the imaginary card waving this season.


I know..and it was an across the board statement I made

It should be eradicated from the game

Captain complains only..anyone else carded


The captain thing, is that for anything? Because if we start stopping the rest of the players speaking to the ref about any decision he makes we're putting them on a pedestal.


He is the bloke in charge on the pitch. He should be on a pedestal. I know we can't always keep bringing up Rugby as an example, but I never spoke to a referee in 10 years of playing. However I would have a go (not in yer face though like happens today) at the ref in football matches every week because I knew it was possible to put the ref under pressure for a decision



That's exactly it!!

Rugby refs stand absolutely no shit at all

Zero tolerance

So why is that not the case in professional football?

Re: Imaginary Card Waving

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:33 pm
by CityGer
I hate it but there's a wider issue in football than just card waving. The issue being that a large proportion of footballers are cheats.