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Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:25 pm
by CityGer
Is it a seasonal thing?
I've read more shite on here over the last few days than I have in the previous five years.
Teams lying down for united, managers doing bacon 'favours', bent refs, bent fixture lists, bent PL, teams raising their agsinst us, the refs under instruction to keep the league interesting etc etc.
Get a fucking grip.
I've never heard anything like it. It's cringeworthy.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:26 pm
by Scatman
CityGer wrote:Is it a seasonal thing?
I've read more shite on here over the last few days than I have in the previous five years.
Teams lying down for united, managers doing bacon 'favours', bent refs, bent fixture lists, bent PL, teams raising their agsinst us, the refs under instruction to keep the league interesting etc etc.
Get a fucking grip.
I've never heard anything like it. It's cringeworthy.
Nowt worse than denial ;)
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:28 pm
by Mase
Are we gonna have this 'paranoia' thread every few months? Is it a seasonal thing?
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:48 pm
by LookMumImOnMCF.net
You're obviously working for 'them' 0_o
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:53 pm
by Nigels Tackle
is this kennydalglishfans.net?
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:18 pm
by Beefymcfc
Just 'cos you can't see 'em doesn't mean that they aren't out there!
Seriously, I'm no conspiracy theorist and definately not paranoid but there are some strange things agoing on. From what I see it's very hard not to think such things when you get sendings off as yesterday. At the end of the day the Premier League is an entertainment business funded mainly by Sky who sell the product. They both have an obligation to their customers in order to continue to sell their product and will do what's needed to ensure it stays at the top.
Having City running away the league with the Old Sky 4 not getting a look in would be disastrous for their business. It would be like the Beeb getting rid of Eastenders or ITV binning Corrie, these are the flagship entertainments that would lose them millions.
Anyway, back to work.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:20 pm
by DoomMerchant
i don't believe in the conspiracy theories either, but it would be interesting to have someone give the statistical possibilities of City playing away after every CL match and the Filth playing at home. Shirley, that would be an interesting number. Just sayin.
If we lose the league, it will be down to us, which is a good feeling to be honest. We don't need other teams to have a terrific swoon, we just need to do our jobs and we can win it. It's that fact which makes people look for external factors to blame/get paranoid about i think. All that footballing responsibility or possibility isn't something we're used to, is it? For Rags, they are used to it...it's what they've known for two decades now.
This is where we make our money...the next month will i think dictate what happens for City this season. We need to shine like diamonds.
cheers
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:52 pm
by Rag_hater
I think all the Paranoia is down to them peskey skunks.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:04 pm
by Original Dub
IMO three of the last five city games I've watched, an opposition player should have walked and in the chelsea game a clear cut penalty to put us 2 nil up against ten men.
They are HUGE decisions and in two cases in particular the ref was standing right there. These are the facts.
Also, I can't remember the last time a team had to play away after every single champs league game. Its uncanny.... Once again, this is fact.
I don't know why it has been made harder for us to win the league this season - maybe its pure coincidence - but I think every game we played after the champs league was harder to win and I also think the toughest period of the season was kinder to the rags.
Still, I believe we will win it. Although I think we will probably have to be on of the best teams to ever win it because for some reason or another, the obstacles seem to be stacked in front of us more than our friends.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:17 pm
by CityFanFromRome
Original Dub wrote:Still, I believe we will win it. Although I think we will probably have to be on of the best teams to ever win it because for some reason or another, the obstacles seem to be stacked in front of us more than our friends.
Think of the satisfaction of winning it knowing that our path was much harder than the opposition's ;) After all, conspiracy or not the best we can do is to keep playing and win as many games as we can, there's nothing else we can do.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:30 pm
by Original Dub
Well that's what I'm looking forward to more than anything I've ever looked forward to before when it comes to city. None of us actually know for sure if things are purposely made harder to either keep the league more exciting or to help the rags.
I hope not.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:35 pm
by Beeks
No conspiracy theories about teams lying down for the rags
It happens
When you've dominated the league like they have for so many years then the fear factor plays a big part
We have had it ourselves recently when teams shit themselves and use a gameplan different to what they would usually ending more often than not in catastrophy
Rags get that more than any other team
Even refs get intimidated officiating their games
It's not fucking rocket science
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:43 pm
by CityGer
Beeks wrote:No conspiracy theories about teams lying down for the rags
It happens
When you've dominated the league like they have for so many years then the fear factor plays a big part
We have had it ourselves recently when teams shit themselves and use a gameplan different to what they would usually ending more often than not in catastrophy
Rags get that more than any other team
It's not fucking rocket science
That's correct.
What I'm saying is that it is a subconscious, psychological thing due to years of being dominated by them.
Teams and managers don't set out to lie down to them.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:01 pm
by DoomMerchant
CityGer wrote:Beeks wrote:No conspiracy theories about teams lying down for the rags
It happens
When you've dominated the league like they have for so many years then the fear factor plays a big part
We have had it ourselves recently when teams shit themselves and use a gameplan different to what they would usually ending more often than not in catastrophy
Rags get that more than any other team
It's not fucking rocket science
That's correct.
What I'm saying is that it is a subconscious, psychological thing due to years of being dominated by them.
Teams and managers don't set out to lie down to them.
quite right...and in addition they often try things that maybe they aren't equipped for either tactically or personnel-wise in desperation moves to try and get some points against top teams -- we see teams doing it to us now. Only on the rare occasion does a manager, a la Mick McCarthy a couple seasons ago, purposely set out a weakened lineup due to forthcoming fixtures and lack of resource. And even that, as much as it is judged critically, i can somewhat understand. It happens in every sport.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:32 pm
by Ted Hughes
CityGer wrote:Is it a seasonal thing?
I've read more shite on here over the last few days than I have in the previous five years.
Teams lying down for united, managers doing bacon 'favours', bent refs, bent fixture lists, bent PL, teams raising their agsinst us, the refs under instruction to keep the league interesting etc etc.
Get a fucking grip.
I've never heard anything like it. It's cringeworthy.
Are you taking the fucking piss ? There are more threads created by people like yourselves moaning about the rest of us having views on Utd than there are the opposite.
In stead of having a go at us. Why not ask yourself the question why YOU feel the need to start another thread on it & what kind of fucking responses do you expect to get ? Just a load of people agreeing with you & nothing else ? Isthat how far they've got into your head ? You have started a fucking thread, designed to get people posting the exact stuff you're complaining about. ON A CITY FORUM. You're the 2nd person to start a 'lay off Utd' thread since yesterday evening ON A CITY FORUM.
If we want to accuse Utd of starting world war fucking three & assassinating President Kennedy, we are allowed to WE ARE CITY FANS. There are plenty of places full of Utd fans you can go & preach to. None of them will have any threads slagging off their members for criticising us, right or wrong.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:35 pm
by Arjan Van Schotte
it is very boring. the fa are out to get us, the refs are out to get us, the papers are out to get us, uefa are out to get us (ok - that might have some truth....) - but if they all gather in darkened rooms to ensure our failure, then someone forgot to invite surly alex's "good friend" tony pulis on wednesday night.
although,speaking of him, i can't believe more wasn't made of when pulis withdrew his players on loan at preston when they sacked the son of satan.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:45 pm
by Ted Hughes
Arjan Van Schotte wrote:it is very boring. the fa are out to get us, the refs are out to get us, the papers are out to get us, uefa are out to get us (ok - that might have some truth....) - but if they all gather in darkened rooms to ensure our failure, then someone forgot to invite surly alex's "good friend" tony pulis on wednesday night.
although,speaking of him, i can't believe more wasn't made of when pulis withdrew his players on loan at preston when they sacked the son of satan.
How many of us came straight out & said that Stoke rolled over for us ? Yet we are not capable of seeing a team do the same v the rags ? If teams do the same for us regularly, we will comment on it. When teams play like their lives depend on it one week then play like they're visiting a museum & don't want to break anything v the rags, we will also comment on it.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:56 pm
by Original Dub
Ted Hughes wrote:
How many of us came straight out & said that Stoke rolled over for us ? Yet we are not capable of seeing a team do the same v the rags ? If teams do the same for us regularly, we will comment on it. When teams play like their lives depend on it one week then play like they're visiting a museum & don't want to break anything v the rags, we will also comment on it.
Exactly.
I've seen stoke roll over for us. I've seen about 6 teams do it for the rags.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:00 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
Ted Hughes wrote:Arjan Van Schotte wrote:it is very boring. the fa are out to get us, the refs are out to get us, the papers are out to get us, uefa are out to get us (ok - that might have some truth....) - but if they all gather in darkened rooms to ensure our failure, then someone forgot to invite surly alex's "good friend" tony pulis on wednesday night.
although,speaking of him, i can't believe more wasn't made of when pulis withdrew his players on loan at preston when they sacked the son of satan.
How many of us came straight out & said that Stoke rolled over for us ? Yet we are not capable of seeing a team do the same v the rags ? If teams do the same for us regularly, we will comment on it. When teams play like their lives depend on it one week then play like they're visiting a museum & don't want to break anything v the rags, we will also comment on it.
You have it wrong Ted...WBA deserved a draw and you must take your hat off to them...also according to John
"I remember when" 68 , you must be thankful that we are still 1st on goal difference as I bet you cannot remember when last we were in this position ??? .....bear in mind that if we fall into second place after the next round of results you must also take your hat off to Sunderland and also thank your stars we are second as...wait for it....when was the last time we........................
I think you get the point mate.
Can I just add that I'm in the top 10 of City fans who hate the Rags more than anyone else.
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Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:01 pm
by Dameerto
DoomMerchant wrote:i don't believe in the conspiracy theories either, but it would be interesting to have someone give the statistical possibilities of City playing away after every CL match and the Filth playing at home. Shirley, that would be an interesting number. Just sayin.
If we lose the league, it will be down to us, which is a good feeling to be honest. We don't need other teams to have a terrific swoon, we just need to do our jobs and we can win it. It's that fact which makes people look for external factors to blame/get paranoid about i think. All that footballing responsibility or possibility isn't something we're used to, is it? For Rags, they are used to it...it's what they've known for two decades now.
This is where we make our money...the next month will i think dictate what happens for City this season. We need to shine like diamonds.
cheers
The two things are the same really, since the police and health and safety don't want fans from four clubs in Manchester on the same date and time. I'd still like to see the probability though.