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It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:47 am
by mr_nool

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:08 am
by Ted Hughes
I can remember contemplating the possibility of it.

Verry sorry for them.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:35 am
by Rag_hater
I dont think it could and it did not

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:50 am
by Mark Garrett
I think with that pillock, Shinawatra at the helm we were heading for major financial trouble.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:38 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Rag_hater wrote:I dont think it could and it did not


Shows how little you know.

We were closer to that situation than most people know. I have it on good source.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:53 pm
by Socrates
Mark Garrett wrote:I think with that pillock, Shinawatra at the helm we were heading for major financial trouble.


He was a risk taker but without his ambition (and contacts!) I doubt we would have our current owners now.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:12 pm
by Yffi_88
Real shame, thank God its not us...

Forgive me for asking a stupid question... but what would you do if City had to 'end'.

Would you bother with anyone else? Pick another rollercoaster to ride?

I'd find it so hard to take anywhere near as much of an interest in football, let alone another team.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:23 pm
by Scatman
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I dont think it could and it did not


Shows how little you know.

We were closer to that situation than most people know. I have it on good source.


Using future season ticket sales as collateral to take out loans to pay wages is always a sign of cash flow difficulties.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:24 pm
by Original Dub
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Shows how little you know.

We were closer to that situation than most people know. I have it on good source.


Exactly!

What a bizarre to say rag hater. Were you just trying to be different for a change???

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:32 pm
by Blue Blood
Mark Garrett wrote:I think with that pillock, Shinawatra at the helm we were heading for major financial trouble.


I remember clearly sitting at Villa away on first game of the season, listening to the chants from the villa fans of "you're going down with your chairman" thinking that this time we might actually be headed for utter doom.

Thank the heavens for Sheikh Mansour.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:06 pm
by BlueinBosnia
Yffi_88 wrote:Real shame, thank God its not us...

Forgive me for asking a stupid question... but what would you do if City had to 'end'.

Would you bother with anyone else? Pick another rollercoaster to ride?

I'd find it so hard to take anywhere near as much of an interest in football, let alone another team.


Good question. I don't think I could support another English club (maybe Swansea, as I used to be a ST holder there, and have seen them play probably about as many times as City, if not more). I'd probably choose someone from Germany, as I watch the Bundesliga more than any other league except the PL. Maybe St Pauli.

Isn't that how NQDP ended up a blue?

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:19 pm
by john68
City ever die?....Ever?...Not a chance. Maybe for a few hours and at the cost of lost points and a relegation. Maybe even the fate that befell Leeds....but a City total demise....don't even think of it.

It has already happened to City before. In the 1890s, Ardwick AFC went bust and within weeks, we were back on track. The result was the birth of Manchester City FC.

We have too much potential, too many fans, too much heart and it isthose factors that would always attract the investor to our ressurrection party.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:32 pm
by Rag_hater
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I dont think it could and it did not


Shows how little you know.

We were closer to that situation than most people know. I have it on good source.



A load of melodramatic shit.We come from a very big city with a big fanbase,at worst we would have gone through the same shit as Pompey.Leeds or Southampton.We might still be in the lower leagues but we would not have gone under.I was a fan before that shit its only a small irrelevant part of our history.If we were in div 3 now I would still be a fan.It's all bollox even if we had gone bankrupt there would be ways for us to come back

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:41 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
Yffi_88 wrote:Real shame, thank God its not us...

Forgive me for asking a stupid question... but what would you do if City had to 'end'.

Would you bother with anyone else? Pick another rollercoaster to ride?

I'd find it so hard to take anywhere near as much of an interest in football, let alone another team.


"If City had to end"........Uuugghhh; unthinkable nightmare scenario and I'd lose all interest in football in this country.

The only other football club I have any real feelings for (and have had for most of my life, for some perverse reason) is Fiorentina and they're a bit of a roller-coaster ride themselves, so no change there then.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:55 pm
by Ted Hughes
Rag_hater wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I dont think it could and it did not


Shows how little you know.

We were closer to that situation than most people know. I have it on good source.



A load of melodramatic shit.We come from a very big city with a big fanbase,at worst we would have gone through the same shit as Pompey.Leeds or Southampton.We might still be in the lower leagues but we would not have gone under.I was a fan before that shit its only a small irrelevant part of our history.If we were in div 3 now I would still be a fan.It's all bollox even if we had gone bankrupt there would be ways for us to come back


The bigger the club & debt,, the more it costs to bail it out. If the debt is bigger than a suitable businessman can afford, the business would fold. If the business folds, the club is gone. Whether it could then come back in the future is a different matter. City could have folded & if that happened, for a while at least, it wouldn't exist as a club. If it did start again (assuming someone was allowed to trade under that name) it would have to start at the bottom, like FC Scum.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:08 pm
by Socrates
john68 wrote:City ever die?....Ever?...Not a chance. Maybe for a few hours and at the cost of lost points and a relegation. Maybe even the fate that befell Leeds....but a City total demise....don't even think of it.

It has already happened to City before. In the 1890s, Ardwick AFC went bust and within weeks, we were back on track. The result was the birth of Manchester City FC.

We have too much potential, too many fans, too much heart and it isthose factors that would always attract the investor to our ressurrection party.


100% correct, administration, debt write offs, point deductions might have happened but we wouldn't have ever folded.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:56 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
BlueinBosnia wrote:
Yffi_88 wrote:Real shame, thank God its not us...

Forgive me for asking a stupid question... but what would you do if City had to 'end'.

Would you bother with anyone else? Pick another rollercoaster to ride?

I'd find it so hard to take anywhere near as much of an interest in football, let alone another team.


Good question. I don't think I could support another English club (maybe Swansea, as I used to be a ST holder there, and have seen them play probably about as many times as City, if not more). I'd probably choose someone from Germany, as I watch the Bundesliga more than any other league except the PL. Maybe St Pauli.

Isn't that how NQDP ended up a blue?


I was already supporting City when my local team folded but yeah definitely became more intense after that (I was about 12 back then).

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:12 pm
by Whassat
Rag_hater wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I dont think it could and it did not


Shows how little you know.

We were closer to that situation than most people know. I have it on good source.



A load of melodramatic shit.We come from a very big city with a big fanbase,at worst we would have gone through the same shit as Pompey.Leeds or Southampton.We might still be in the lower leagues but we would not have gone under.I was a fan before that shit its only a small irrelevant part of our history.If we were in div 3 now I would still be a fan.It's all bollox even if we had gone bankrupt there would be ways for us to come back


Come from a very big city, appealing to not just local lads but abroad fans as well. And that was long before any sheik money was thrown in.

Re: It could have been us

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:57 pm
by Dameerto
A quick update - the Barrow/Darlo game was delayed kicking off due to so many away fans at the game (big swell of support from neutrals due to the forum post going viral)