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Referees are to be ordered to punish all two-footed challenges with red cards in a hardline move to clear up confusion over dangerous tackles.
An imminent instruction from referees’ chief Mike Riley will apply whether or not there is contact or injury to an opponent — and even if the ball is won first.
Referees are understood to be aware from recent get-togethers that a firm line is being taken and Riley is in the process of providing further clarification on how the existing law is to be applied.

It means the recent controversial dismissal of Manchester City’s Vincent Kompany against Manchester United is to become a standard sanction for the type of challenge that has the potential to harm a rival player.
The move is a clear attempt to draw a line under an issue that has led to cries of inconsistency.
Three days after Kompany saw red for what was widely seen as a clean, ball-winning tackle on Nani at the Etihad Stadium, Liverpool’s Glen Johnson escaped any punishment for what looked a cruder lunge on City’s Joleon Lescott.
The lack of even a yellow card infuriated City manager Roberto Mancini, who was so incensed he waved an imaginary card in the direction of the referee, Lee Mason.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has called for referees to show consistency, saying: ‘These inconsistencies are confusing to everyone. Referees have to be given direction about what are the laws of the game and what should be permitted in terms of tackles.
‘Mike Riley has to be given the rope to say this is not allowed, two-footed tackles are not acceptable, whether you take the ball or not.’
Now Riley is set to do just that by telling referees they must send off players guilty of two-footed challenges for the ball if an opponent is in the immediate vicinity.
It is a judgment call that could be regarded as equally controversial. But it is aimed at letting all players — and referees — know where they stand.

It follows that referee Chris Foy, widely criticised at the Etihad earlier this month, was deemed to be right to send off Kompany in the FA Cup third-round clash while Mason was wrong not to dismiss Johnson in the Carling Cup semi-final first leg.
FIFA laws themselves are open to interpretation. ‘Using excessive force’, a sending-off offence under Law 12, applies in cases where the player has ‘far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent’.
Referees are advised that if both feet are off the ground players have no control over their actions.


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awesome.
in the middle of the fucking season and after a month of inconsistencies...

heard this on 5 live this morning its bollocks cos what the get out clause is what is deemed to be two footed, for example kompanys was 1 footed imo, so they still have an oppurtunity to say the ref interpreted that as a 1 footed challenge, which you have pointed out is just as dangerous. so if the trial by media continues scholes will be a 1 footed and say richards will have been 2. the rules have been in place since football began. they just need to stick by them. i can remember before yellow and red card bollox when a player was sent off it was usually very serious foul play and you thought sent off must have been fighting on pitch or summat. it was unusual now its for
nothing at all 2 yellows 2 nothing incidents.

yeh lets see shall we! like fuck this is going to happen, will still be one rule for one, one rule for the other.

"The lack of even a yellow card infuriated City manager Roberto Mancini, who was so incensed he waved an imaginary card in the direction of the referee, Lee Mason."

**ATTENTION** Bollox alert!

Why not just have all football played on the Subutteo table and be done with it.

Did Ferguson say anything about one-footed tackles to the stomach ?

Did the git say anything about considering such factors as 'Age' , speed of the player ?

I mean how can that slow , old ginger haired retiree from United get away with kicking a player in the stomach ?

Perhaps it's because his legs are shot, he's out of touch, slow and not match fit ?

It's fatuous and shows tha arrogance of the man ( Fergie), to even think he should make such statements.

He sends his players out to kick and maim other footballers and thinks that now the refs should do something ?

His players are not fit enough and now , just before they get some really tough games he comes out with this garbage !

This will be yet another passing trend which will have disappeared and be forgotten a year from now. How many times have we (and especially older contributors) seen guidelines for referees introduced which lasted a few weeks or months? Dozens of times, if not hundreds. Going in two-footed might be punished for a while, but then things will get lax over a period of time and we'll end up being back where we are now. It's a repeating cycle which ends up being nothing more than a fad and a knee jerk reaction.

guv111 wrote:This will be yet another passing trend which will have disappeared and be forgotten a year from now. How many times have we (and especially older contributors) seen guidelines for referees introduced which lasted a few weeks or months? Dozens of times, if not hundreds. Going in two-footed might be punished for a while, but then things will get lax over a period of time and we'll end up being back where we are now. It's a repeating cycle which ends up being nothing more than a fad and a knee jerk reaction.

Exactly, just like the 'Respect' campaign, how many times do we see players mobbing the refs ? Usually , in every United game the Ref gets mobbed. Arsenal,Scouse 1 and Chelsea do this too. They are not the only ones though.

I also think the handshake crap at the beginning of the game should be scrapped.

Why on earth would I want to shake the hand of that despicable runt Wayne Rooney ?

Yeah Alright well see tomorrow in the Rags Scouse match eh?

zuricity wrote:

guv111 wrote:This will be yet another passing trend which will have disappeared and be forgotten a year from now. How many times have we (and especially older contributors) seen guidelines for referees introduced which lasted a few weeks or months? Dozens of times, if not hundreds. Going in two-footed might be punished for a while, but then things will get lax over a period of time and we'll end up being back where we are now. It's a repeating cycle which ends up being nothing more than a fad and a knee jerk reaction.

Exactly, just like the 'Respect' campaign, how many times do we see players mobbing the refs ? Usually , in every United game the Ref gets mobbed. Arsenal,Scouse 1 and Chelsea do this too. They are not the only ones though.

I also think the handshake crap at the beginning of the game should be scrapped.

Why on earth would I want to shake the hand of that despicable runt Wayne Rooney ?

Very true. These fads are just a way to make excuses for referees and their abysmal inability to translate the laws of the game onto the pitch. What we need are sensible, accountable referees, and we can leave it up to the two captains on any given day whether they want to shake hands with the opposition or not. Players like Vincent Kompany wouldn't be getting sent off if referees didn't do one thing in one match, then did the opposite in the next (or even five minutes later in the same game).

zuricity wrote:Did Ferguson say anything about one-footed tackles to the stomach ?

Did the git say anything about considering such factors as 'Age' , speed of the player ?

I mean how can that slow , old ginger haired retiree from United get away with kicking a player in the stomach ?

Perhaps it's because his legs are shot, he's out of touch, slow and not match fit ?

It's fatuous and shows tha arrogance of the man ( Fergie), to even think he should make such statements.

He sends his players out to kick and maim other footballers and thinks that now the refs should do something ?

His players are not fit enough and now , just before they get some really tough games he comes out with this garbage !

Come on, its Paul Scholes, everyon knows he can't tackle so it ok, just chuckle like most of the pundits do next time it happens.

The FA, have also announced the following amendment to the rule.

The following will not be subject to the guidlines.

Chelsea players
Manchester United Players
Liverpool Players
Spurs players

We can also confirm any Manchester City player found to be looking at the match officials in a manner we feel is dodgy will be suspended for 4 games. Decisions against Manchester City are made in accordance with our special arrangements with
Sir Alex Ferguson MBE.

We can also confirm we will be making examples of any player not from Engerland as we know this the way forward for the game in out Country.

We hope to be presentingManchester United with the FA Premiership Trophy. at a date to be confirmed please look out for times and dates.

Thanks the FA

Kompany's challenge wasn't even 2 footed yet the ref sent him off. Basically this is giving the referees permission to 'interpret' ANY challenge as a red card offence. Suits you taggart, suits you.

Lazy bastards. I am starting to think that the super league people have been talking about is a good idea just for a fucking fresh start away from this kind of lazy bullshit.

Hazy2 wrote:The FA, have also announced the following amendment to the rule.

The following will not be subject to the guidlines.

Chelsea players
Manchester United Players
Liverpool Players
Spurs players

We can also confirm any Manchester City player found to be looking at the match officials in a manner we feel is dodgy will be suspended for 4 games. Decisions against Manchester City are made in accordance with our special arrangements with
Sir Alex Ferguson MBE.

We can also confirm we will be making examples of any player not from Engerland as we know this the way forward for the game in out Country.



We hope to be presentingManchester United with the FA Premiership Trophy. at a date to be confirmed please look out for times and dates.

Thanks the FA

Quality !

ashton287 wrote:Kompany's challenge wasn't even 2 footed yet the ref sent him off. Basically this is giving the referees permission to 'interpret' ANY challenge as a red card offence. Suits you taggart, suits you.

Lazy bastards. I am starting to think that the super league people have been talking about is a good idea just for a fucking fresh start away from this kind of lazy bullshit.

This!

They don't even know what a two footed tackle is. What they are doing is heading towards a game where any kind of challenge on the ground will be a red card.

Ted Hughes wrote:

ashton287 wrote:Kompany's challenge wasn't even 2 footed yet the ref sent him off. Basically this is giving the referees permission to 'interpret' ANY challenge as a red card offence. Suits you taggart, suits you.

Lazy bastards. I am starting to think that the super league people have been talking about is a good idea just for a fucking fresh start away from this kind of lazy bullshit.

This!

They don't even know what a two footed tackle is. What they are doing is heading towards a game where any kind of challenge on the ground will be a red card.

We have long been headed toward a non-contact sport and this is just one more step towards it if implemented long term.

Ted Hughes wrote:

ashton287 wrote:Kompany's challenge wasn't even 2 footed yet the ref sent him off. Basically this is giving the referees permission to 'interpret' ANY challenge as a red card offence. Suits you taggart, suits you.

Lazy bastards. I am starting to think that the super league people have been talking about is a good idea just for a fucking fresh start away from this kind of lazy bullshit.

This!

They don't even know what a two footed tackle is. What they are doing is heading towards a game where any kind of challenge on the ground will be a red card.

Agree with you Ted, however, I'm happy with the clarification, even if it's the wrong one. The rule is now clarified and therefore I expect anyone doing it to be sent off. If the ref somehow misses it, I expect the FA to subsequently charge the player. Everyone now knows where they stand, including the City players.

Let's see how long we go before a clear red card challenge isn't carded or picked up by the FA afterwards. I'll go for sometime tomorrow when Scholes/Gerrard/Shrek/Johnson/Wellbeck/Wio dive in on some dirty foreigner.

Good rule.

Ain't gonna happen....
This sort of shite announcement happens all the time....Big announce,emt....we all go Whoooo!!!....then it all gets forgotten about.

Refs will still use their discretion...dependant on how discreetly the envelope was passed.

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Agree with you Ted, however, I'm happy with the clarification, even if it's the wrong one. The rule is now clarified and therefore I expect anyone doing it to be sent off. If the ref somehow misses it, I expect the FA to subsequently charge the player. Everyone now knows where they stand, including the City players.

Let's see how long we go before a clear red card challenge isn't carded or picked up by the FA afterwards. I'll go for sometime tomorrow when Scholes/Gerrard/Shrek/Johnson/Wellbeck/Wio dive in on some dirty foreigner.

I apologise, I was wrong. It was actually Maxi that went in two footed, the ref up his hand in his pocket, then noticed he was about to be subbed so let it go. He was replaced by Kuyt who blot the winner. If it wasn't against the rags, it'd be ridiculous.