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Doug your onto to a winner there pal,keep your head down and your mouth shut.

Ahhh we are after hazard now. Redknapp shouldn't of opened his mouth and we would never even know he existed.

Funny how this is the first time I have read a figure. Spurs, arse, Chelsea and scum stories all without a price. City story and it's 33 MILLION 150,000 A WEEK.

Im probably going t get flamed for this, but havent we all at some time or other been party to genuine tragedy. My sister was a young cardiologist at her mates 21st birthday do when the girls gran keeled over and died in the front room of a heart attack.

My sister blamed herself for not being able to help, ooh, maybe for a few days, then she dealt with it and moved on.

I dont pretend to know what is going on in the heads of those at bolton, or for that matter whether the story of them pulling out of the fa cup is true. But the reality is that life goes on. Liverpool replayed the semi-final after hillsborough and won, despite the untold genuine suffering of a large number of their followers who were either directly or indirectly linked to those events. Not to mention the players who saw 95 of their supporters, including children crushed to death.

But to pull out of the fa cup would be entirely the wrong thing to do. Life goes on, and if its genuine grief a distraction is often a good thing, especially if its a distraction that can steel a teams resolve and do something to put a smile back on the face of the fans, without whom they would not have the priviliges in life that they enjoy.

As tragic as all this is, i am left wondering about the fame culture in this country. I sat at coms a couple of years back and the old bloke 2 rows in front of me keeled over and died of a heart attack at the hamburg game. There was no minutes silence, there was no calls for those around him to be given councilling, and there was certainly no calls for the next game to be abandoned. Those concerned now need to man up and move on, yes it was not nice to see, and it was not nice that it was played out in front of millions, but thats life, and life goes on.

I am fairly sure that the lads family, and for that matter the lad himself, would want bolton to go to whl and get a result to take the, to wembley for the 2nd time in 2 years

Im_Spartacus wrote:Im probably going t get flamed for this, but havent we all at some time or other been party to genuine tragedy. My sister was a young cardiologist at her mates 21st birthday do when the girls gran keeled over and died in the front room of a heart attack.

My sister blamed herself for not being able to help, ooh, maybe for a few days, then she dealt with it and moved on.

I dont pretend to know what is going on in the heads of those at bolton, or for that matter whether the story of them pulling out of the fa cup is true. But the reality is that life goes on. Liverpool replayed the semi-final after hillsborough and won, despite the untold genuine suffering of a large number of their followers who were either directly or indirectly linked to those events. Not to mention the players who saw 95 of their supporters, including children crushed to death.

But to pull out of the fa cup would be entirely the wrong thing to do. Life goes on, and if its genuine grief a distraction is often a good thing, especially if its a distraction that can steel a teams resolve and do something to put a smile back on the face of the fans, without whom they would not have the priviliges in life that they enjoy.

As tragic as all this is, i am left wondering about the fame culture in this country. I sat at coms a couple of years back and the old bloke 2 rows in front of me keeled over and died of a heart attack at the hamburg game. There was no minutes silence, there was no calls for those around him to be given councilling, and there was certainly no calls for the next game to be abandoned. Those concerned now need to man up and move on, yes it was not nice to see, and it was not nice that it was played out in front of millions, but thats life, and life goes on.

I am fairly sure that the lads family, and for that matter the lad himself, would want bolton to go to whl and get a result to take the, to wembley for the 2nd time in 2 years

I agree. Bolton only need to look at the last time they won the cup to see the right thing to do.

I'm sure Fabrice would like to watch the final in May and see the Trotters win it. I presume he'd get a winner's medal having played in the competition. What better way to thank him for his performances rather than just giving up on the competition he nearly died trying to win.

It will be emotional when the game starts, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't go ahead.

Blue Since 76 wrote:

Im_Spartacus wrote:Im probably going t get flamed for this, but havent we all at some time or other been party to genuine tragedy. My sister was a young cardiologist at her mates 21st birthday do when the girls gran keeled over and died in the front room of a heart attack.

My sister blamed herself for not being able to help, ooh, maybe for a few days, then she dealt with it and moved on.

I dont pretend to know what is going on in the heads of those at bolton, or for that matter whether the story of them pulling out of the fa cup is true. But the reality is that life goes on. Liverpool replayed the semi-final after hillsborough and won, despite the untold genuine suffering of a large number of their followers who were either directly or indirectly linked to those events. Not to mention the players who saw 95 of their supporters, including children crushed to death.

But to pull out of the fa cup would be entirely the wrong thing to do. Life goes on, and if its genuine grief a distraction is often a good thing, especially if its a distraction that can steel a teams resolve and do something to put a smile back on the face of the fans, without whom they would not have the priviliges in life that they enjoy.

As tragic as all this is, i am left wondering about the fame culture in this country. I sat at coms a couple of years back and the old bloke 2 rows in front of me keeled over and died of a heart attack at the hamburg game. There was no minutes silence, there was no calls for those around him to be given councilling, and there was certainly no calls for the next game to be abandoned. Those concerned now need to man up and move on, yes it was not nice to see, and it was not nice that it was played out in front of millions, but thats life, and life goes on.

I am fairly sure that the lads family, and for that matter the lad himself, would want bolton to go to whl and get a result to take the, to wembley for the 2nd time in 2 years

I agree. Bolton only need to look at the last time they won the cup to see the right thing to do.

I'm sure Fabrice would like to watch the final in May and see the Trotters win it. I presume he'd get a winner's medal having played in the competition. What better way to thank him for his performances rather than just giving up on the competition he nearly died trying to win.

It will be emotional when the game starts, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't go ahead.

Whatever happens with Muamba, the players should have time to react of course, then get on with their jobs as everyone else has to.

totally agree with our Grecian slave rebel on this point -- Bolton should NOT quit the competition. FFS...it almost makes the tragedy worse. What the game he collapsed in wasn't even worth playing? Christ, it's all they have to fight for this season beyond beating the drop....go to WHL to heal and fight like hell for your teammate and your fans. End of story.

DoomMerchant wrote:totally agree with our Grecian slave rebel on this point -- Bolton should NOT quit the competition. FFS...it almost makes the tragedy worse. What the game he collapsed in wasn't even worth playing? Christ, it's all they have to fight for this season beyond beating the drop....go to WHL to heal and fight like hell for your teammate and your fans. End of story.

Indeed. Wise words.

I suppose a lot depends on Fab's progress over the next few days. If he improves, then they should go out and play for him - that's what he'd want I guess. If, tragically, he has a long drawn out illness and doesn't seem to be getting better, then it will probably drain those close to him and the players will be distracted.

Im_Spartacus wrote:Im probably going t get flamed for this, but havent we all at some time or other been party to genuine tragedy. My sister was a young cardiologist at her mates 21st birthday do when the girls gran keeled over and died in the front room of a heart attack.

My sister blamed herself for not being able to help, ooh, maybe for a few days, then she dealt with it and moved on.

I dont pretend to know what is going on in the heads of those at bolton, or for that matter whether the story of them pulling out of the fa cup is true. But the reality is that life goes on. Liverpool replayed the semi-final after hillsborough and won, despite the untold genuine suffering of a large number of their followers who were either directly or indirectly linked to those events. Not to mention the players who saw 95 of their supporters, including children crushed to death.

But to pull out of the fa cup would be entirely the wrong thing to do. Life goes on, and if its genuine grief a distraction is often a good thing, especially if its a distraction that can steel a teams resolve and do something to put a smile back on the face of the fans, without whom they would not have the priviliges in life that they enjoy.

As tragic as all this is, i am left wondering about the fame culture in this country. I sat at coms a couple of years back and the old bloke 2 rows in front of me keeled over and died of a heart attack at the hamburg game. There was no minutes silence, there was no calls for those around him to be given councilling, and there was certainly no calls for the next game to be abandoned. Those concerned now need to man up and move on, yes it was not nice to see, and it was not nice that it was played out in front of millions, but thats life, and life goes on.

I am fairly sure that the lads family, and for that matter the lad himself, would want bolton to go to whl and get a result to take the, to wembley for the 2nd time in 2 years

I understand you wondering about the fame thing. It's tragic for anybody suffering to suffer a heart attack, but with the profile of football and the fact it happened live in front of millions of people watching was always going to make it a more public thing.
In a way the "fame" part of it must make it harder for Muamba's family with all press coverage etc.
Anyway I hope Muamba and anybody else who have suffered heart attacks recently, all make speedy recoveries.

bluebananamilksheikh wrote:I understand you wondering about the fame thing. It's tragic for anybody suffering to suffer a heart attack, but with the profile of football and the fact it happened live in front of millions of people watching was always going to make it a more public thing.
In a way the "fame" part of it must make it harder for Muamba's family with all press coverage etc.
Anyway I hope Muamba and anybody else who have suffered heart attacks recently, all make speedy recoveries.

Im more thinking of all the "rip" messages on facebook and twatter from people who pretended they gave a shit about a junkie dying a few weeks back. Yet soldiers die every day, people are injured in their jobs every day and innocent people are murdered every day in places like syria, yet the idle fame junkie masses dont give a shit.

That fucking Kony 2012 the other week was a perfect example of where brainless people jump on an emotional bandwagon for something they know fuck all about. If any of them have since read about the politics of that video the 80 million lemmings who "liked" it should be ashamed. Thing is id be surprised if even 80,000 pf them bothered to read the back story to what they just clicked on, and hardly any will have watched the full film anyway because there were no celebrities in it.

I am sorry to see what happened, but it happened. It wont materially affect my life or that of anybody i know, so why all the great unwashed gushing about somebody in the news that they dont know. Wish him well and move on, but spare us the fake grief and sympathies