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Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:27 am
by Beefymcfc
I know we've talked about this in other threads but I thought I'd ask what your feelings are on this. Below is the article from the OS and below that is a the article from BBC and a link to the actual interview. What I'm asking is 'Was what Paddy was saying, so far off from what was printed or were the Beeb well out of order for pushing it as a dig at United?'.

Also, with the headlines of Mancini ordering Mario away, is it time that we started banning more and in particular, which ones?

Anyway, the story (which has not been retracted):

Vieira and Club anger at BBC interview

Patrick Vieira has expressed his disappointment and anger at what he feels is a serious and cynical misrepresentation of an interview he gave to the BBC.

Manchester City’s Football Development Executive gave the interview at the annual SoccerEx exhibition at the GMEX Convention Centre on Wednesday afternoon. He was representing Football Against Hunger, a campaign to tackle starvation in Africa.

An interview given to the BBC’s Dan Roan contained what Patrick feels was a very leading line of questions regarding Manchester United supposedly receiving favourable treatment by referees. Patrick feels that his views have been deliberately taken out of context.

He said: “I am very angry with Dan Roan. I feel he has misrepresented me. I made it clear in the interview twice that I wanted to avoid criticising United and even stated that I didn’t watch the United game against Fulham and had not seen the incident to which the reporter referred.

“That part of the interview was ignored and my comments were taken completely out of context. I called the reporter twice to ask for a retraction and an apology which has not come. I feel Dan Roan and the BBC have shown a complete lack of respect for me, the ‘Football Against Hunger’ charity and Manchester City Football Club.”

Manchester City support Patrick in his strong feelings on this matter and have confirmed to the BBC that the reporter will now be banned from all Manchester City media activity.

Chief Communications Officer, Vicky Kloss, said: “Despite the Charity arranging the interview with Dan Roan for the purposes of promoting the Football Against Hunger campaign, the reporter pursued a leading and aggressive line of questioning, through which Patrick was very careful to tread a diplomatic path.

“A misrepresentative article by Dan Roan, which has since been modified, appeared on the BBC’s website a short time later which omitted significant comments of clarification and took the interview completely out of context. Manchester City promotes a positive and welcoming approach to media outlets, however it is felt, in the absence of any correction or apology that there is no option but to issue an immediate ban to Dan Roan from future media activity.”


Big clubs receive ref advantage - Man City's Patrick Vieira
by Dan Roan


Manchester City executive Patrick Vieira believes title rivals Manchester United and other big clubs benefit from key refereeing decisions at home.

His comments come two days after Fulham were denied a late penalty in the 1-0 defeat at Old Trafford.

"When United play at home they get some advantage that other teams don't get," Vieira told BBC Sport.

Man City later released a statement saying Vieira's comments had been taken out of context.

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“When United play at home they get some advantage that other teams don't get”

Vieira said: "I think when you go to United, Madrid, Barcelona, or Milan, when the referees referee these kind of games, it's always difficult to go against these kind of teams.

"This is the way it is.

"It's something the teams who are used to winning get all the time, so we need to win games so we have this advantage in the future."

With eight games left, City find themselves three points behind United, but Vieira - who took up a post as football development executive at Eastlands after retiring from playing - believes they would be worthy champions.

Speaking on behalf of Football Against Hunger, Vieira said: "This is our moment.

"Since the start of the season we've been the best team and played the best football.

"I believe the club deserves it."

However, Vieira, who has only heard about the Fulham incident and has yet to see it, also admitted that United are in pole position to claim a second successive title.

"When you are first you have the advantage, they are favourites," he said.

Vieira recently said that United's decision to bring Paul Scholes out of retirement was a sign of weakness.

In response, Sir Alex Ferguson accused City of an act of desperation when allowing Carlos Tevez to play despite going on strike.

Vieira said: "We're glad Carlos is back. The quality of these kind of players will be really important at this stage of the season.

"The issue was between him and the club. The players were really pleased to see him back.

"It's important not to lose focus, so many things can happen.

"People try to build this fire between the clubs. The heat is going to get more and more."

[urlnp=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17540540]Link to Interview[/urlnp]

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:32 am
by lets all have a disco
Bacon has banned countless reporters we do and it makes all the copy.

Ridiculous.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:40 am
by Beefymcfc
lets all have a disco wrote:Bacon has banned countless reporters we do and it makes all the copy.

Ridiculous.

I wonder how many have actually been banned?

On that subject as well, for years I've been going to the game preview on the Beeb as it was a decent snip-it with a few easily digestible match facts. However, since Taggart has made up with the Beeb the articles now seem to have some form of anti-City/pro-opposition slant. Then, when you see Hansen et al nailing into us on MotD, it makes you wonder if the people we're forced to pay our licence fee to are truly unbiased. Doesn't look like it to me.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:42 am
by ashton287
Yep. About 48 more bans before the end of the season please city.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:50 am
by lets all have a disco
Beefymcfc wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Bacon has banned countless reporters we do and it makes all the copy.

Ridiculous.

I wonder how many have actually been banned?

On that subject as well, for years I've been going to the game preview on the Beeb as it was a decent snip-it with a few easily digestible match facts. However, since Taggart has made up with the Beeb the articles now seem to have some form of anti-City/pro-opposition slant. Then, when you see Hansen et al nailing into us on MotD, it makes you wonder if the people we're forced to pay our licence fee to are truly unbiased. Doesn't look like it to me.


Darren Lewis was on Talkshite this morning saying Bacon has banned that many if it was reported there would be no space for actual news.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:56 am
by Goaters 103
Blanket banning for no reason isnt a way forward, but for Journo's who conitnually shit stir or always paint the club in a negative light Id make sure The Custis twits and Mark Ogden of the Telegraph were banned.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:58 am
by Beefymcfc
lets all have a disco wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Bacon has banned countless reporters we do and it makes all the copy.

Ridiculous.

I wonder how many have actually been banned?

On that subject as well, for years I've been going to the game preview on the Beeb as it was a decent snip-it with a few easily digestible match facts. However, since Taggart has made up with the Beeb the articles now seem to have some form of anti-City/pro-opposition slant. Then, when you see Hansen et al nailing into us on MotD, it makes you wonder if the people we're forced to pay our licence fee to are truly unbiased. Doesn't look like it to me.


Darren Lewis was on Talkshite this morning saying Bacon has banned that many if it was reported there would be no space for actual news.

I know that a few off The Sunday Supplement were banned, Patrick Barclay was one, I think. It's a balancing act for us though but the way we treat the media at our place is unbelieveable and they still stick the knife in. If it was me I'd stick them in a little cloakroom soewhere rather than give them all the pomp with trimmings. I was talking to Motty once after a game and he said we probably have the best facilities and catering for the media group and he loved coming to ours as he gets to have a few swallies in the Directors Lounge afterwards as well; mingling with the top brass, and the Legends of course.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:00 am
by Piccsnumberoneblue
We aren't Rags. Leave the banning to Baconchops. We've always said it's part of his arrogance.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:03 am
by Ted Hughes
Goaters 103 wrote:Blanket banning for no reason isnt a way forward, but for Journo's who conitnually shit stir or always paint the club in a negative light Id make sure The Custis twits and Mark Ogden of the Telegraph were banned.


Is it both Custises who are the problem or just the phoney Geordie one ?

I've not monitored them closely in recent times but when I have seen the piggy faced one on TV he's not seemed particularly that bad, whereas the other piece of shit clearly despises us & can never say anything remotely objective.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:06 am
by Chinners
Martin Samuels should deffo be banned ... the positive spinning bastid.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:06 am
by Avalon
There should be more. I'm all for freedom of expression, but if you're there to just shitstir, why should we invite you to interview players/staff and give you fancy meals? You can do that from your own office.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:10 am
by Crossie
I don't agree with banning them. All that happens is the same paper/TV sends someone else. Ban the organisation I hear you say? Well that just puts up more barriers and creates more anti city reports.

The only thing I bother reading and believing about City is Dougs training reports and the odd crazy transfer topic on Bluemoon. I do that less now though because the days of us signing 5 or 6 players are gone.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:24 am
by Ted Hughes
Crossie wrote:I don't agree with banning them. All that happens is the same paper/TV sends someone else. Ban the organisation I hear you say? Well that just puts up more barriers and creates more anti city reports.

The only thing I bother reading and believing about City is Dougs training reports and the odd crazy transfer topic on Bluemoon. I do that less now though because the days of us signing 5 or 6 players are gone.


Ferguson bans everybody yet they still kiss his arse.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:30 am
by Goaters 103
Ted Hughes wrote:
Crossie wrote:I don't agree with banning them. All that happens is the same paper/TV sends someone else. Ban the organisation I hear you say? Well that just puts up more barriers and creates more anti city reports.

The only thing I bother reading and believing about City is Dougs training reports and the odd crazy transfer topic on Bluemoon. I do that less now though because the days of us signing 5 or 6 players are gone.


Ferguson bans everybody yet they still kiss his arse.


I always find that amazing. He treats the press like dogshit on his shoes, and yet they still fawn over him.

Just remembered - any single one of the journos who sang "Happy Birthday to you dear Arry" to Shitknapp at his press conference in March should automatically be banned for life.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:32 am
by Beefymcfc
Ted Hughes wrote:
Crossie wrote:I don't agree with banning them. All that happens is the same paper/TV sends someone else. Ban the organisation I hear you say? Well that just puts up more barriers and creates more anti city reports.

The only thing I bother reading and believing about City is Dougs training reports and the odd crazy transfer topic on Bluemoon. I do that less now though because the days of us signing 5 or 6 players are gone.


Ferguson bans everybody yet they still kiss his arse.

The difference is that at this time we need the media whereas it's the opposite for United, the media need them.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:15 am
by dario2739
I remember hear Custis (I think it was him) saying that he wasn't anti-City or up Fergiescum's arse, and pointed to his ban from Rag press conferences as proof. Yeah you were banned you prick, then used every opportunity you had to kiss slur Alex's ringpiece - crawling your way back into their conferences, you gutless cunt!

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:44 am
by Seanyod
Well said ted . They all up his arse and scared of him. I believe it's about defending ourselves . All we ever hear is shite . Not a single thing about what sheikh mansour is building in a deprived area of Manchester . It's beyond a Piss take now. Not saying they have to kiss our arse , just a balanced fair report on us. If they wanna cause shit, out u go. Simple. That ain't arrogant . As it is they are sat , eating our food at the stadium and laughing at us. I accept if u at the top u get shit. British attitude . But the shit we had slung is a fuckin joke. Cunts like Peter Spencer, Mark sagers , Curtis etc etc etc have all made this personal in my eyes. If I ever met one of them I'd chin them. Garenteed . No questions asked

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:34 am
by ross.mcfc
Not a fan of banning journalists. Sounds like something an oppressive regime does. Will only stoke more anti City feeling in the press.

I remember when Rangers earlier this season started banning journalists who were asking questions regarding Craig Whytes finances. Look how that one turned out. Do we have something to fear or hide?

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:56 am
by Mikhail Chigorin
Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:Blanket banning for no reason isnt a way forward, but for Journo's who conitnually shit stir or always paint the club in a negative light Id make sure The Custis twits and Mark Ogden of the Telegraph were banned.


Is it both Custises who are the problem or just the phoney Geordie one ?

I've not monitored them closely in recent times but when I have seen the piggy faced one on TV he's not seemed particularly that bad, whereas the other piece of shit clearly despises us & can never say anything remotely objective.


When you put it that way, it almost sounds like some particularly nasty or incurable (sexual ??) disease.

Doctor :- "oh, he's got acute Custices of the rectum and the prognosis is not very good....."

Quite appropriate, really, when you cone to think of it.

Re: Man City Ban Journalist - Should There Be More?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:57 am
by Mikhail Chigorin
Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:Blanket banning for no reason isnt a way forward, but for Journo's who conitnually shit stir or always paint the club in a negative light Id make sure The Custis twits and Mark Ogden of the Telegraph were banned.


Is it both Custises who are the problem or just the phoney Geordie one ?

I've not monitored them closely in recent times but when I have seen the piggy faced one on TV he's not seemed particularly that bad, whereas the other piece of shit clearly despises us & can never say anything remotely objective.


When you put it that way, it almost sounds like some particularly nasty or incurable (sexual ??) disease.

Doctor :- "oh, he's got acute Custices of the rectum and the prognosis is not very good....."

Quite appropriate, really, when you cone to think of it.