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I think it can change in one game with a bit of luck and a win margin of a couple of goals.

Teams can then go on and win 7 games in a row. Like arsenal maybe?

Just wondering what your thoughts are on this because it seems that quite a lot seem to suggest it doesn't work like that?

With statements like "its definitely over now"...

Genuine question btw.

Original Dub wrote:I think it can change in one game with a bit of luck and a win margin of a couple of goals.

Teams can then go on and win 7 games in a row. Like arsenal maybe?

Just wondering what your thoughts are on this because it seems that quite a lot seem to suggest it doesn't work like that?

With statements like "its definitely over now"...

Genuine question btw.

Form can change quickly. However what we are going through i dont really attribute to form, i feel it is more self inflicted.

Whatever it is we are trying to achieve on the pitch just doesnt seem to be working, so our form will only change if we change our approach. There is no sense keep plugging away at an approach that other teams have sussed.

Its like, often you can see what a manager is trying to achieve even if results arent coming. With us its hard to have that optimism because it is so blatently not working, and we are getting worse not better

Original Dub wrote:I think it can change in one game with a bit of luck and a win margin of a couple of goals.

Teams can then go on and win 7 games in a row. Like arsenal maybe?

Just wondering what your thoughts are on this because it seems that quite a lot seem to suggest it doesn't work like that?

With statements like "its definitely over now"...

Genuine question btw.

Can we change our form dramatically? Yes. Is it likely? Erm...

Blackburn can definitely win tonight. Is it likely? Erm...

Look how dramatically we can change the way we play during the space of one game though - Sporting, Sunderland etc. Anything's possible, but probability vs probabilty equals boo hoo hoo.

We can only wish and wait. Rovers win tonight and it's happy days, as long as we do over an Arsenal team that'll be really smarting after losing to QPR.

To win the leaugue from this position is gonna be so, so spectacular!

Original Dub wrote:I think it can change in one game with a bit of luck and a win margin of a couple of goals.

Teams can then go on and win 7 games in a row. Like arsenal maybe?

Just wondering what your thoughts are on this because it seems that quite a lot seem to suggest it doesn't work like that?

With statements like "its definitely over now"...

Genuine question btw.

I think you're bang on. All the doom and gloom I'm hearing now is exactly what I heard coming from the rags a few weeks ago.
Personally, I think the race isn't over. There's still just under a quarter of a season to go and anything can happen in that time.

The rags are looking strong but so were we. Twists and turns to come I'm sure.

saulman wrote:
I think you're bang on. All the doom and gloom I'm hearing now is exactly what I heard coming from the rags a few weeks ago.
Personally, I think the race isn't over. There's still just under a quarter of a season to go and anything can happen in that time.

The rags are looking strong but so were we. Twists and turns to come I'm sure.

Exactly. It's not intended as a "stay positive thread"... Fuck konws there's enough of them...

It's just that's what I've witnessed many times before.

Original Dub wrote:

saulman wrote:
I think you're bang on. All the doom and gloom I'm hearing now is exactly what I heard coming from the rags a few weeks ago.
Personally, I think the race isn't over. There's still just under a quarter of a season to go and anything can happen in that time.

The rags are looking strong but so were we. Twists and turns to come I'm sure.

Exactly. It's not intended as a "stay positive thread"... Fuck konws there's enough of them...

It's just that's what I've witnessed many times before.

When the opposition work out how we play and therefore how to play against us it changes things. It doesnt mean we cant just carry on in the same way but it just makes it harder.

After we battered the scum ,wasnt QPR the next game away from home.They gave us a hell of a game but because they are basically a crap team we got the win altho it was tight and many said we didnt deserve to win.We went away to Liverpool and were the bettr team but only managed a draw at right at the end had Joe to thank for the point.Then it was Chelsea away and we started great,should have gone 2 up and won but lost. These last 2 games were finished with 10 men.

But these games had shown teams that they had to work extra hard against us and be physical.Then we played WBA and they just sat back with 10 or 11 behind the ball and were ecstatic with a draw.Sunderland followed and we battered them but lost at the end.Gradually as teams had got tougher and more defensive ,we had also stopped the flowing attacking football and the away games had become a battle where we seemed to think we were better than they were and we would score and win but it just wasnt happening.We had gone from making it happen to hoping and expecting it would while the opposition we digging in and hoping they would get a break and............they were getting those breaks.

We squeezed two away wins against Wigan and Villa but lost v Everton and then again at Swansea.Before you know it our away form had gone to pieces.Not only were we throwing points away but we were not scoring goals and playing crap.Is that because of the way the opposition started to work us out or did we change our tactics to be more defensive or didnt we change tactics at all even though we should have done.

Or have we just lost form and confidence.



And so it went on from there.

It's simple. If you watch the Spuds away game and the mashing of the scum at the swamp, we had width, overlaps and quality ball going into the box, this streched the oposition and gave us more opportunites through the middle too. The last 10 mins of the Sunderland game DPz came on and QUICKLY started spreading balls wide and we started to create scoring chances and got goals.

Silva aint at the races at the mo and creating almost nothing, but RM keeps selecting him.........wtf......rest the guy ffs!

Teams have concentrated harder to on stopping us than they have the rags & it's worked. We have been a new challenge to teams & managers they have worked extra hard on preventing us playing; it's a buzz for them.

ONeil took it to another level by surprising us at the other end when we weren't expecting it & basically arse raped Mancini on the day. A good learning curve for players & manager.

None of it would have worked if Silva had been in top form though. We would still have won these games.

The truth is that City's attack depended on Silva either directly or in the build up. Teams have been studying him & have cut out a lot of his routine passes. The sort of pass he released Nasri with v Spurs is now very difficult to play as teams are so well drilled against it. At the same time, he has been carrying an injury & trying to cope with both things has mentally drained him. THIS is the kind of thing which makes the Premier League head & shoulders better than any other & why Asenal have gone from invincibles to also rans. (Unless you are Utd, in which case you can play 50 fucking crosses all from the right wing & nobody even TRIES to tactically stop it, don't ask me why ).

This is more than just a test of form & fitness for Silva; he has been partially found out. He needs to adapt, but he will because he's brilliant. In the meantime, we have had to learn how to create & score goals without him. The good news is; we have.

Now we have to start doing it away from home & that should be our challenge between now & the end. If we can get back to picking up points even without Silva, then this side will become title favourites for next season, whether we win it now or not.

Then we add a couple of players & give all these rag assisting shites a whole new set of problems to deal with on top of Silva & batter everybody.

Unless some daft cunt sacks the manager of course, in which case anything could happen including 5th place.

Im_Spartacus wrote:

Original Dub wrote:I think it can change in one game with a bit of luck and a win margin of a couple of goals.

Teams can then go on and win 7 games in a row. Like arsenal maybe?

Just wondering what your thoughts are on this because it seems that quite a lot seem to suggest it doesn't work like that?

With statements like "its definitely over now"...

Genuine question btw.

Form can change quickly. However what we are going through i dont really attribute to form, i feel it is more self inflicted.

Whatever it is we are trying to achieve on the pitch just doesnt seem to be working, so our form will only change if we change our approach. There is no sense keep plugging away at an approach that other teams have sussed.

Its like, often you can see what a manager is trying to achieve even if results arent coming. With us its hard to have that optimism because it is so blatently not working, and we are getting worse not better

we dont attck teams with pace anymore its side to side tippy tappy play!!

dick dastardley wrote:

Im_Spartacus wrote:

Original Dub wrote:I think it can change in one game with a bit of luck and a win margin of a couple of goals.

Teams can then go on and win 7 games in a row. Like arsenal maybe?

Just wondering what your thoughts are on this because it seems that quite a lot seem to suggest it doesn't work like that?

With statements like "its definitely over now"...

Genuine question btw.

Form can change quickly. However what we are going through i dont really attribute to form, i feel it is more self inflicted.

Whatever it is we are trying to achieve on the pitch just doesnt seem to be working, so our form will only change if we change our approach. There is no sense keep plugging away at an approach that other teams have sussed.

Its like, often you can see what a manager is trying to achieve even if results arent coming. With us its hard to have that optimism because it is so blatently not working, and we are getting worse not better

we dont attck teams with pace anymore its side to side tippy tappy play!!

We can't attack sides with pace if they are all stood in their own penalty area. I agree that we can improve on that and also on our crossing but if 11 blokes set out to stop you doing it; it's not easy & requires working on.

We have shown recently that we are starting to find another way of scoring in these situations.

We dropped off gradually over 6/8 weeks and it won't come back over night. This season is over. Next season we will win it.

On the bright side though atleast they won't be able to fucking triple season card prices this year.a