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When the DVD comes out of this season I've got a feeling that every goal will caused by our Achilles heel, wide play!

but worse our play has been brought about by a chronic lack of width and then in games, we add it late, an we carve sides open!

Who are the best wingers in football?

The whole world and its donkey knows we needed width...thats everyone bar Mancini.

the loss today had fuck all to do with lack of width. arse was there for the taking, and we just plain bottled it. the city from sept/oct would have won this game at a canter.

bobby brows wrote:When the DVD comes out of this season I've got a feeling that every goal will caused by our Achilles heel, wide play!

but worse our play has been brought about by a chronic lack of width and then in games, we add it late, an we carve sides open!

Who are the best wingers in football?

Amen someone hits the nail on the head.Our biggest failing this season is no width i said today how narrow we are and we just dont work oppo full backs enough.

Sideshow Bob wrote:the loss today had fuck all to do with lack of width. arse was there for the taking, and we just plain bottled it. the city from sept/oct would have won this game at a canter.

they killed us with width, they could always give it to someone out wide!

sunderland, sporting, (another team i can't think of, it maybe stoke), scored all there goals or troubled us thanks to width!

bobby brows wrote:

Sideshow Bob wrote:the loss today had fuck all to do with lack of width. arse was there for the taking, and we just plain bottled it. the city from sept/oct would have won this game at a canter.

they killed us with width, they could always give it to someone out wide!

sunderland, sporting, (another team i can't think of, it maybe stoke), scored all there goals or troubled us thanks to width!

Spot on bobby mate and imo if we had a winger like Valencia we probs would have the league wrapped up already.

Agreed we need more width, but who could we get is the problem.
Sanchez was our main target last summer, but there aren't many available or gettable of
suitable quality that spring to mind.
Bale would be one option, but I can't see us getting him, any more suggestions?

2 good posts there! Valencia is prob the best winger in the league. Sanchez was plan A in the summer, plan B was Nasri.

Don't think Bale is not an option just don't think he's value for money if he costs me than £25m, Eden Hazard to most football supporters is a football manager signing. Is Weiss good enough to come home?

IMO if I was picking the team (we'd have a lot of tall black gentleman kicking fuck out of everyone) I'd like someone like Matthew Etherington or Clint Dempsey with someone to aim at (Dzeko?)

bobby brows wrote:2 good posts there! Valencia is prob the best winger in the league. Sanchez was plan A in the summer, plan B was Nasri.

Don't think Bale is not an option just don't think he's value for money if he costs me than £25m, Eden Hazard to most football supporters is a football manager signing. Is Weiss good enough to come home?

IMO if I was picking the team (we'd have a lot of tall black gentleman kicking fuck out of everyone) I'd like someone like Matthew Etherington or Clint Dempsey with someone to aim at (Dzeko?)

You can't have Sanchez as plan a and Nasri as plan b. you may as well say Pantmillion was plan b. Sanchez is all about pace and direct tracking width. Nasri is all about being an utter shithouse with no pace.

we didn't get sanchez and the only midfielders we signed were nasri and hargreaves! We tried to sign that lad from Roma (Cerci) but if we didn't sign the wide player that the boss wanted why have we not signed a winger!

How about trying something outrageous and playing a right footer on the right and left footer on the left?

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:How about trying something outrageous and playing a right footer on the right and left footer on the left?

thats fancy talk that mate! you'll want strikers that score goals next!

Don't want to turn this into an FM style thread where everyone says we should buy Hazard, but there are good wingers on the continent. Hopefully whoever the boss is in the summer tries to bring in a couple of players in the Kompany/Zabaleta or Cabaye/Tiote mould, rather than chasing the 40 million pound player that's never going to come. We don't need an overhaul, just a squad with a Plan B.

Esky wrote:Don't want to turn this into an FM style thread where everyone says we should by Hazard, but there are good wingers on the continent. Hopefully whoever the boss is in the summer tries to bring in a couple of players in the Kompany/Zabaleta or Cabaye/Tiote mould, rather than chasing the 40 million pound player that's never going to come. We don't need an overhaul, just a squad with a Plan B.

I think if there is a new manager there will be an overhaul, a new man would wanna bring his own players in and as we've players from the previous manager still to offload we could be in a for a long summer of people being sold.

If Mancini does stay then I think we'll still see a large number (4 or 5 is a lot for any team) of this years current players leaving.

Is Eden Hazard a winger? having not seen him play (like most of the rest of the country) one cannot answer that. Gareth Bale seems the expensive domestic option. I honestly can't think of too many wingers in England.

bobby brows wrote: I honestly can't think of too many wingers in England.

Lennon?

bobby brows wrote:

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:How about trying something outrageous and playing a right footer on the right and left footer on the left?

thats fancy talk that mate! you'll want strikers that score goals next!

Playing wingers on the wrong wings peeves me off so much.

Dunnylad wrote:

bobby brows wrote: I honestly can't think of too many wingers in England.

Lennon?

crikey not heard his name for months? has been injured?

realised there was someone who looked like Theo Walcott playing for Arsenal yesterday!

I'd have neither at city though

Sneidjer was plan A, Nasri plan B if you want to talk about that.

Nasri is one of those annoying players who isnt really anything, not a winger, not a striker, he wants to roam.

We need an upgraded 2012 SWP or Lennon. There has to be one out there. Wingers can come from abroad and do really well straight away.

Is Hazard another Nasri type? Suppose to be a winger but just cuts inside to no mans land? Its a shame AJ hasnt developed properly, or doesnt have a tiny bit more pace.

Valencia is a cunt but extremely effective.

I've been on about width for two seasons but you are all missing the point. It's not just about the ball coming in, it's about what happens when it gets there. V Sunderland, at least one cross sailed accross the 6 yard box at head height with the keeper stranded at the near post. That was when Dzeko, the bloke who 'just needs crosses' was on the pitch. Andy Gray, Joe Royle, Brian Kidd, Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney etc= free header & goal. Nobody read it.

Yesterday I watched one occasion shouting at Aguero etc to get into the 6 yard box when only Balotelli went near post, the ball trickled through accross the 6 yard box with Aguero stood 10 yards from goal holding his head. Not good enough.

It's more than just a ball coming in, it's about areas & our lot need instruction as they don't do it naturally. It's understandable.

People won't cross the ball into areas if nobody is going to be there. People won't go there if nobody is going to cross the ball. Catch 22. It needs working on if we are to dop it correctly, (as well as signing more specialists).

Our plan is: we pass the ball in top the edge of the box, Silva diddles around with it whilst a fullback or Nasri run past him, then he takes the oppo by surprise by a reverse pass to the fullback THEN the cross comes in & everyone is in position to get on the end of it. Or: the wide player runs round the back & Silva flicks it through.

Problem: Gary Neville showed everyone that ten times after the rags game & now when we do it, they just wait & take the ball off Silva as he turns, either way.

That's the Premier League. They can learn to stop shit like that but are hopeless at stopping crosses.

The rags are the best crossers bar Bale, & they just train everyone to expect one at every moment of every game. Hence, when it comes in, there are players to get on it & the bloke with the ball always knows it's worth putting one in because people will attack the areas both 6 yard box & edge of penalty area.

Crossie wrote:Sneidjer was plan A, Nasri plan B if you want to talk about that.

Nasri is one of those annoying players who isnt really anything, not a winger, not a striker, he wants to roam.

We need an upgraded 2012 SWP or Lennon. There has to be one out there. Wingers can come from abroad and do really well straight away.

Is Hazard another Nasri type? Suppose to be a winger but just cuts inside to no mans land? Its a shame AJ hasnt developed properly, or doesnt have a tiny bit more pace.

Valencia is a cunt but extremely effective.

Hazard is like an upgraded Nasri. Nasri tbf tracks back quite well imo but Hazard is much trickier & actually looks to shoot rather than trying to avoid it.