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all the top teams, arsenal spurs, chelsea, liverpool have all fucked up against utd this year, all have not won against them this year in the prem, chelsea 3-0 up and get away with a draw, spuds arsenal get fucked home and away and liverpool cave in at ot, but when they play us its differant, they have a go against us, arsenal and chelsea both win at home liverpool haves ago at us at home and even spuds have ago at city, just why dont they have a go at utd as they do at us,

stevefromdonny wrote:all the top teams, arsenal spurs, chelsea, liverpool have all fucked up against utd this year, all have not won against them this year in the prem, chelsea 3-0 up and get away with a draw, spuds arsenal get fucked home and away and liverpool cave in at ot, but when they play us its differant, they have a go against us, arsenal and chelsea both win at home liverpool haves ago at us at home and even spuds have ago at city, just why dont they have a go at utd as they do at us,

Because we set up like cowards and invite them to.

Utd didn't play any of them at full strength bar Chelsea & Chelsea ran absolute riot through them both times. Arsenal were a bunch of struggling nervous wrecks at the times rags played them.

Spurs are Bale + 10 others, he didn't play in either game. Arsenal had the tea ladies playing 1st game & two shite slow centre backs playing in both fullback positions for the second. Utd's strength is out wide. They still only won because Wenger took off Chamberlain.

The ref bailed them out v Chelsea, Torres missed an open net in the 1st game after rounding the keeper.

They have been very very lucky.

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stevefromdonny wrote:all the top teams, arsenal spurs, chelsea, liverpool have all fucked up against utd this year, all have not won against them this year in the prem, chelsea 3-0 up and get away with a draw, spuds arsenal get fucked home and away and liverpool cave in at ot, but when they play us its differant, they have a go against us, arsenal and chelsea both win at home liverpool haves ago at us at home and even spuds have ago at city, just why dont they have a go at utd as they do at us,

Because we set up like cowards and invite them to.

Harsh but your in the ballpark IMO

Ted Hughes wrote:Utd didn't play any of them at full strength bar Chelsea & Chelsea ran absolute riot through them both times. Arsenal were a bunch of struggling nervous wrecks at the times rags played them.

Spurs are Bale + 10 others, he didn't play in either game. Arsenal had the tea ladies playing 1st game & two shite slow centre backs playing in both fullback positions for the second. Utd's strength is out wide. They still only won because Wenger took off Chamberlain.

The ref bailed them out v Chelsea, Torres missed an open net in the 1st game after rounding the keeper.

They have been very very lucky.

I think moreover the refereeing issues, the way the fixture list turned out for them and some of the inexplicable blunders teams made when playing them (that Torres miss was unbelievable), have certainly aided their cause. I remember some tool for Norwich getting clean through and fluffing his lines at 0-0 in another match they snuck 3 points from.

If you measured the slices of luck against bad luck for us and them through the season, they would come out well on top. Flustrating.

Because simply put United aren't cowards and don't shy away from challenges. You can make excuses and call them lucky all you want but the way we approached the game yesterday was pathetic. Would United ever approach a must win game so negatively?

Ted Hughes wrote:Utd didn't play any of them at full strength bar Chelsea & Chelsea ran absolute riot through them both times. Arsenal were a bunch of struggling nervous wrecks at the times rags played them.

Spurs are Bale + 10 others, he didn't play in either game. Arsenal had the tea ladies playing 1st game & two shite slow centre backs playing in both fullback positions for the second. Utd's strength is out wide. They still only won because Wenger took off Chamberlain.

The ref bailed them out v Chelsea, Torres missed an open net in the 1st game after rounding the keeper.

They have been very very lucky.

Torres did miss an open goal but they were still 2 goals down at that point. How do you know what would of happened had they taken Chamberlain off? That's just a complete guess and you say it as it it's a fact. We've bottled it in too many games.

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well and truely gave them the title.

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Because simply put United aren't cowards and don't shy away from challenges. You can make excuses and call them lucky all you want but the way we approached the game yesterday was pathetic. Would United ever approach a must win game so negatively?

You only seem to appear when Utd are discussed.

No Utd wouldn't have approached the Arsenal game like that. They would have correctly attacked like fuck & then got fucking hammered because Arsenal at full strength and on form are a much better side than them. We on the other hand, on form, are a much better side than Arsenal & had nothing to lose.

Would we, at 0-3 at the Bridge, get 2 pens to get us back in the game, even if they were nailed on ? I'll answer that; the answer is no. Did we fail to get a game settling pen at the same place ? The answer is yes.

Ted Hughes wrote:

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Because simply put United aren't cowards and don't shy away from challenges. You can make excuses and call them lucky all you want but the way we approached the game yesterday was pathetic. Would United ever approach a must win game so negatively?

You only seem to appear when Utd are discussed.

No Utd wouldn't have approached the Arsenal game like that. They would have correctly attacked like fuck & then got fucking hammered because Arsenal at full strength and on form are a much better side than them. We on the other hand, on form, are a much better side than Arsenal & had nothing to lose.

Would we, at 0-3 at the Bridge, get 2 pens to get us back in the game, even if they were nailed on ? I'll answer that; the answer is no. Did we fail to get a game settling pen at the same place ? The answer is yes.

Arsenal better than United? Do me a bloody favour.
The one thing United have and always have is bottle. And lots of it. Although we may have better 'footballers' the attitude, desire and confidence of their players is 10 times better than ours. I'm not gonna deny refs have helped them but that's not the main issue. The main issue is we've bottled it.

We just need to be good enough for it to not matter.

Same with the conspiracy theories, it shouldnt matter if we are good enough.

We were good enough for about 20-25 games, then we turned into pussies and the "best squad in the league" couldnt cope when 3 players were missing.

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Utd didn't play any of them at full strength bar Chelsea & Chelsea ran absolute riot through them both times. Arsenal were a bunch of struggling nervous wrecks at the times rags played them.

Spurs are Bale + 10 others, he didn't play in either game. Arsenal had the tea ladies playing 1st game & two shite slow centre backs playing in both fullback positions for the second. Utd's strength is out wide. They still only won because Wenger took off Chamberlain.

The ref bailed them out v Chelsea, Torres missed an open net in the 1st game after rounding the keeper.

They have been very very lucky.

Torres did miss an open goal but they were still 2 goals down at that point. How do you know what would of happened had they taken Chamberlain off? That's just a complete guess and you say it as it it's a fact. We've bottled it in too many games.

So only Utd do comebacks.

Utd scored directly from the space left by Chamberlain immediately after he was taken off. It was the decisive moment in the match.

I notice you left out the stuff about Arsenal's depleated team. Are you a Utd supporter ? You seem to deliberately slant your posts in their favour rather than discuss all the points raised objectively.

Brad wrote:well and truely gave them the title.

Yes, how dare family members shake hands after a football match.

Ted Hughes wrote:
So only Utd do comebacks.

Utd scored directly from the space left by Chamberlain immediately after he was taken off. It was the decisive moment in the match.

I notice you left out the stuff about Arsenal's depleated team. Are you a Utd supporter ? You seem to deliberately slant your posts in their favour rather than discuss all the points raised objectively.

He must be. Glowing praise every fucking time.

United are a bunch of f* cheats. Simple as that.

Because they own all the media.sky,barclays the refs the fa ,espn.
I've probably forgotton a few but their backers dont intrest me that much.

Ted Hughes wrote:

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Utd didn't play any of them at full strength bar Chelsea & Chelsea ran absolute riot through them both times. Arsenal were a bunch of struggling nervous wrecks at the times rags played them.

Spurs are Bale + 10 others, he didn't play in either game. Arsenal had the tea ladies playing 1st game & two shite slow centre backs playing in both fullback positions for the second. Utd's strength is out wide. They still only won because Wenger took off Chamberlain.

The ref bailed them out v Chelsea, Torres missed an open net in the 1st game after rounding the keeper.

They have been very very lucky.

Torres did miss an open goal but they were still 2 goals down at that point. How do you know what would of happened had they taken Chamberlain off? That's just a complete guess and you say it as it it's a fact. We've bottled it in too many games.

So only Utd do comebacks.

Utd scored directly from the space left by Chamberlain immediately after he was taken off. It was the decisive moment in the match.

I notice you left out the stuff about Arsenal's depleated team. Are you a Utd supporter ? You seem to deliberately slant your posts in their favour rather than discuss all the points raised objectively.

No I'm not. But people on here write outrageously stupid things about them. Heck if you believed what some on here said their squad would be the same standard as Wigan's.

It's because you always make excuses. Always blame other factors. We've not been good enough and that's our own fault. United can't affect our own performances which simply haven't been good enough, ever since New Years really.

And the space Chamberlain left? Do me a favour. Clutching at straws to say the least.

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:No I'm not. But people on here write outrageously stupid things about them. Heck if you believed what some on here said their squad would be the same standard as Wigan's.

It's because you always make excuses. Always blame other factors. We've not been good enough and that's our own fault. United can't affect our own performances which simply haven't been good enough, ever since New Years really.

And the space Chamberlain left? Do me a favour. Clutching at straws to say the least.

Your attitude towards them alternates between light rimming and hero worship. There's a reason we talk shit about them. We support City. Your readiness to jump to their defence and praise them on a seemingly daily basis makes me feel ill.

As a Gooner, I feel I have to echo the views of the opening post. We were shocking, we were dismal against Man Utd at Old Trafford. In our, ever so slight, defence, we were playing the likes of Coquelin, Jenkinson and Traore. We made the likes of Wellbeck and Young look world-class in the short space of two hours. The home game against the c***s- we lost 1-2. Put in a little bit more of an effort, but not nearly enough, in my opinion.

Compare and contrast this in our three games against you this season. Two 1-0 defeats, both closely fought and hotly contested. Then yesterday's 1-0 win- our biggest, and most surprising, win against a top side since we beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in October.

The harrowing fact that ManUre could amass a staggering 97 points in a season where they've been humbled by mid-table European sides, thrashed at home by their local rivals and re-investing in "retired" players is a pretty bitter pill to swallow. It just goes to show either that the competition isn't fierce enough, or that the desired effort isn't being put in. It has an incredibly stark similarity to Liverpool's run-in in 2009 in which they did almost everything, only to lose out to Manchester United yet again.

Wigan next up for the unmentionables. A side who haven't picked up a single point against them in nigh on 6 seasons. Writing on the wall?

I also think, whether he leaves or not or whether he's distanced/endeared himself to the City faithful, that the media coverage given to Balotelli's raised studs on Song's knee is even more shocking than the challenge itself. Retrospective action? Repeated replays on SSN? Opinions from many a 'pundit' on Balotelli's future? It's disgusting. It's exactly that type of behaviour by the media that hounded Alpay out of Aston Villa.

Nothing about Ashley Young's dive yesterday. Will he be made to look stupid and given a yellow card for diving the next time he IS actually fouled, a la Suarez? I think not.