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strikers

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:44 pm
by bluechester
now with the FFP, we just cant keep shelling out millions.

at the moment we have 1 forward we proberbly want to keep the rest not as much

of the forwards we have who is going

agauro no chamce
balo possible
dzeko possible
tevez possible
ade proberbly

this will leave us with 1 forward, can you see everyone fucking off

personally i wouldnt mind keeping agauro, tevez, ade & guidetti.

i know this might not be everyones cup of tea,what is everyone else think who's staying who's going

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:32 pm
by ashton287
Aguero - staying
Dzeko - staying

Tevez - staying if we get a new manager in, going if Mancini stays
Balo - going if we get a new manager, staying if Mancini stays.

Ade - similar to tevez but most likely going no matter what.
Guidetti - haven't a clue.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:34 pm
by Blue Blood
I'd keep Aguero for certain and give Guidetti a chance if he's willing to be third/fourth choice (doubtful he will be ok with that though).

The rest can jog on imo and here's why...

Balo as sad as it is to say as he is undoubtedly talented is destroying himself, it's only a matter of time before he does something crazy bad, like breaking a lads leg, and the clubs name gets dragged through the mud with him. He's an unacceptable risk in my eyes, to our club, financially and professionally and to all the other professionals who take to the field with him. Balo's fire is so brilliant it's beginning to burn everything. He has to go.

Tevez is as good as gone, he doesn't want to be here and we don't want him. Gone early summer by my reckoning.

As for Dzeko, no pace, no first touch and the most featherweight 6ft 4" man i've ever seen play football, granted the lad has knack of scoring but his overall contribution is way below the expected standard. I'd sell him and recoup what we paid, not the right player for us but no doubt will score 20+ a season in a slower league.

And of course, Ade, a great year at tottenham and a good player on his day but not the type of player we need going forward. Blows too hot and cold for my liking. Due to his great year hopefully we will recoup a large part of what we paid for him!

Summation is we need strikers, not just any strikers, consistant, professional, fast, technically proven top draw types, the ones that cost the a large chunk of all the above's sale value...

Selling will be easy, buying the right men is going to be the tough part!

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:32 pm
by lets all have a disco
What i'd do and what the club will do is different.

I'd bin off
Dzeko (without a second thought)
Balotelli (without a second thought)
Adebayor (shame it never worked out)
Tevez (with a heavy heart and thoughts of what could have been)
RSC


Id keep
Aguero
Tevez

The club will keep

Aguero
Dzeko
Bring back Guidetti

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:39 pm
by paddyblue
i wouldnt think Dzeko would want to stay, on the rare occasion he plays a good game he gets dropped for the next game
i reckon he will want to head back to germany

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:15 am
by Im_Spartacus
paddyblue wrote:i wouldnt think Dzeko would want to stay, on the rare occasion he plays a good game he gets dropped for the next game
i reckon he will want to head back to germany


All a moot point with mancinis future in doubt.

Tevez, adebayor may be happy to stay, dzeko would be a very good player in the right setup and would get the run of games mancini has been preventing because of balotelli.

Seems there is only two glaring issues with our disaffected players, mancini and balotelli, and it wouldbe cheaper to sell one and sck the other

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:13 am
by Wooders
think ade will stay if we end up with Mourinho - Balo will go

concerned real will snap up aguero this summer

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:44 am
by Ted Hughes
The problem with our strikers is that they are all unreliable.

You have to have a 'go to' player in there & then the rest can help out. All the top sides have that. It's not just about scoring it's about being the leader at the front. Of course it's better to have several who can do that but you need at least one who is the figurehead.

Utd have Rooney. Before that they had about 5. Before that they had Hughes. Chelsea have/had Drogba. If he was 5 years younger, they would be close to us in the league as he would have dragged them up there. Arsenal had Henry & Bergkamp & now have Van Persie who has kept them in the top ten.

Ours was Tevez.

Now, we don't have one & not only that we don't have a single forward who has proved they can do that over a season, so we really need to buy that leading striker. Depending on who that is, then we decide who stays & plays with him.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:54 am
by Sideshow Bob
Wooders wrote:concerned real will snap up aguero this summer


our owners would never allow it unless we were getting a ridiculous amount of money (double what we paid?) or using him as bait for ronaldo.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:04 pm
by gilford
Ted Hughes wrote:The problem with our strikers is that they are all unreliable.

You have to have a 'go to' player in there..................



This.

When Aguero arrived people feared him on the pitch, it was almost a certainty he would score a goal, who do we have now to bring on and change things? When I went to watch the Sporting home tie and Bob brought Edin on the home fans booed and slated him. We just don't have that type of player, especially at this stage of the season.

We didn't have decent shot on Sunday, and that was with Balo, Aguero, Tevez, Nasri etc on the pitch (at different times). There is something fundamentally WRONG there!

I don't know what will solve it, and I put it down to "typical City", who knows what we will do..........

All I know is that after supporting Bobby since he started, I am really starting to feel as though he has taken us as far as he can, and the owners and the fans want a LOT more..........

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:46 pm
by Pretty Boy Lee
Ted Hughes wrote:The problem with our strikers is that they are all unreliable.

You have to have a 'go to' player in there & then the rest can help out. All the top sides have that. It's not just about scoring it's about being the leader at the front. Of course it's better to have several who can do that but you need at least one who is the figurehead.

Utd have Rooney. Before that they had about 5. Before that they had Hughes. Chelsea have/had Drogba. If he was 5 years younger, they would be close to us in the league as he would have dragged them up there. Arsenal had Henry & Bergkamp & now have Van Persie who has kept them in the top ten.

Ours was Tevez.

Now, we don't have one & not only that we don't have a single forward who has proved they can do that over a season, so we really need to buy that leading striker. Depending on who that is, then we decide who stays & plays with him.


He hadn't left just yet you know.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:43 pm
by Bridge'srightfoot
If possible I think Ade could be given another chance. Especially if Balotelli goes. He's a far better player than Dzeko.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:50 pm
by CityGer
Tevez, Ade, Dezeko and Balo all to go.

If pushed to keep one it would be Dzeko on the basis that he appears the most mentaly stable of the group.

FFP is a worry and my concern is the sort of fees we can expect to receive and will need to shell out. We can't keep splashing out on £25Mil failures.

I'd hope that if those four left we recoup at least £70Mil but us getting rid of a player for a reasonable fee is never easy.

That would leave us with Aguero and Guidetti. Make Cavani a top priority target and shell out the £7Mil for Ba's release clause. It looks a slightly weaker quartet on paper but I'm fed up at looking at so called top strikers on paper, getting excited about them, then watching them prancing about doing fuck all or just acting like twats. We would have two sure things in Aguero and Cavani, proven premiership quality in Ba and a young, hungry player in Guidetti.

If we can go in to next season with that quartet, having made a profit of £30-35Mil from the transfer dealings with our forwards then it will be good business and it will free up money for Bale/Hazzard.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:06 pm
by Ted Hughes
Just a brief one on the FFP worries. I saw one of UEFA's top stooges on Sky being quizzed about Rangers & he was asked if Rangers went into administration during the FFP would they be banned from Europe & his answer was 'maybe'.

If administration is a 'maybe' ban, I can't see how having a £50 mil gift from an owner & being completely solvent can be a ban under any circumstances.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:09 pm
by blues2win
Sometimes a lack of goals comes from lack of movement up front or wastefulness in front of goal, sometimes from lack of imagination. We've suffered from a bit of both.

Every now and then Dzeko turns up but too often he's static and his ball control is sometimes stunningly bad. Why did we buy him when we have hardly any crossers worthy of the name? Adebayor was far too hit and miss particularly away from home. Tevez is clearly on his bike. Guidetti could be a number four possibly but would need to prove himself at Premiership level. Aguero's fine. He works hard and makes a lot of good runs but seldom gets found by our misfiring midfield. He's also burnt out. So yes we need at least two strikers. I'd go for Cavani personally. He could play well with Aguero. Maybe Demba Ba is worth a shout; he'll come cheap won't he?

I'm afraid the other problem is that Nasri isn't filling the need for creativity reliably enough to give Silva the breaks he needs from time to time. I suspect Yaya was affected by the bloody Africa Cup of nations and was burnt out as well.

More than anything it's clear we need a change of managerial style. We cannot go on with our narrow predictable style. We must get some pace and width in the side. Fullbacks rarely have the technical skill to be relied on as sole crossers. That doesn't mean relying entirely on wide men who refuse to put in a shift covering back as Spurs did at the weekend. I want attacking variety. One twos through the middle by all means, angled balls over the top, surging runs from midfield, long shots, goals from set pieces and yes balls in the box, low crosses, high crosses. I see no sign Mancini is prepared to change his ways from a style which has been found out. People ask whether Mourinho would do any better. One thing we do know about him is that he's delivered big time at every club he's managed. That of course includes the Premiership.

If he's available I'd bite his hand off.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:24 pm
by Bridge'srightfoot
Adebayor is on 185k a week. We still pay him 120k of that. That's why no other team will buy him.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:15 pm
by Biamp
I wouldn't be surprised if we were left with Aguero, Guidetti, and Dzeko come August. Buying anybody else would be a bonus imo.

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:25 pm
by clawbaggio
Can we see if Arse will have Ade back, along with a bit of dosh for RVP ?

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:32 pm
by Biamp
clawbaggio wrote:Can we see if Arse will have Ade back, along with a bit of dosh for RVP ?


very unlikely to happen..

Re: strikers

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:38 am
by mr_nool
If we put our hopes on Guidetti solving our striker problems, i think we are in for a nasty surprise. I don't think he's nearly good enough for us (yet). he should be loaned to a team on the lower half of the table to see if he can cut it in the prem, and to be honset, i think he would struggle to get too much game time. Is he really better than Yakubu, than Fletcher, than Zamora/Cisse, etc.? I think not.