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Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:37 pm
by bigblue
After watching the hallway pre-WBA interview w/ Roberto, he seems to be much more relaxed. Smiles and hopefully a fresh perspective.

Got me thinking that since it looks like the title has finally gotten away from us, a ton of pressure may have been lifted off the players shoulders. Now they are playing the last 6 games with nothing to lose and a big chip on their shoulder. And if Roberto's position is secure, the players may be playing for their future at the club as well. The more optimistic side of me says this could make for a blowout or two and us returning to our early season form, as many players have something to prove before the season is over

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:55 pm
by Beefymcfc
[urlnp=http://www.mcfc.co.uk/citytv/Interviews/2012/April/Roberto-Mancini-previews-City-v-West-Brom-10-April]OS - Arsenal Post-Match Day Interview With Mancini[/urlnp]

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:55 pm
by dick dastardley
Its mancinis fault were out of the running when we needed to win.it was far too late for strikers to make an impact.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:04 pm
by bigblue
dick dastardley wrote:Its mancinis fault were out of the running when we needed to win.it was far too late for strikers to make an impact.


and how does this relate to the players being under less pressure now?

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:09 pm
by thegoatfeeder
I expect a reaction tomorrow night, and I expect us to go on a bit of a run now that the pressure is off, its annoying but its really predictable.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:12 pm
by Ted Hughes
Beefymcfc wrote:[urlnp=http://www.mcfc.co.uk/citytv/Interviews/2012/April/Roberto-Mancini-previews-City-v-West-Brom-10-April]OS - Arsenal Post-Match Day Interview With Mancini[/urlnp]


Love that chart on the wall with all the players in little groups on the pitch & Owen Hargreaves on his own in the grey bit at the side, presumably doing a few exercises.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:15 pm
by Kiss_The_Goat
dick dastardley wrote:Its mancinis fault were out of the running when we needed to win.it was far too late for strikers to make an impact.


No its not... it's down to a young inexperienced team cracking under the pressure... it wasn't Mancini who went out of form and stopped being able to string 3 passes together, it was the players... and they'll learn from it.

I think with the pressure off we will see a return to form, and from this I think the players will learn for next season, how to handle the pressure better.

If we win the next 6 games and end on 89 points we can be extremely proud of that total... any other year that would win the league easily.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:23 pm
by Ted Hughes
I would like to see some of the best youngsters get into the squad. Not as starters but as alternatives to bring on during games. Many times in the past, young players have risen to the challenge in these type of situations & it has caused an upturn in their performance level& moved them into contention for the following season.

It would also lift the crowd, which is important.

This is another area where Bob could now show some spark & ingenuity.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:31 pm
by thegoatfeeder
One thing I really hope is that we all get behind the team again, there have been some discenting voices around me at games lately (something that is understandable, i'm not saying people don't have a right to voice an opinion), in the grand scheme of things its been an excellent season and rather than get on the team/managements back for the last few games I hope we can actually lift them a bit show appreciation for the good which has mostly outweighed the bad.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:36 pm
by Grob
Well now the pressures off Mancini needs to come up with a new plan, a new pattern of play, that will get us scoring goals again and winning matches.

He also needs to inspire a squad of players to improve their individual and team performances, the majority of which now have an eye on either the Euro's or in the case of Tevez, a summer break/transfer.

Should the above occur, momentum will have been restored and another chance maybe forthcoming for Mancini.

But do you think Mancini and the Potato (Platt), can conjour up the above for the last 6 games. Im skeptical at best over it.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:42 pm
by Ted Hughes
Grob wrote:Well now the pressures off Mancini needs to come up with a new plan, a new pattern of play, that will get us scoring goals again and winning matches.

He also needs to inspire a squad of players to improve their individual and team performances, the majority of which now have an eye on either the Euro's or in the case of Tevez, a summer break/transfer.

Should the above occur, momentum will have been restored and another chance maybe forthcoming for Mancini.

But do you think Mancini and the Potato (Platt), can conjour up the above for the last 6 games. Im skeptical at best over it.


I have some doubts after Sunday I must admit, but if I had to bet, I'd say yes he can. We'll know straight away v WBA I think. It will be obvious.

If he doesn't get a response, I'm almost certain he's a gonner. The Sheikh has been very sensible and calm but he's a fan like us, sat at home watching this & he will expect a proud & committed end to the season.

I hope he gets one.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:42 pm
by bigblue
Grob wrote:Well now the pressures off Mancini needs to come up with a new plan, a new pattern of play, that will get us scoring goals again and winning matches.


Why?

How about our world class players actually start performing to their ability. You know - stop fucking up 5 yard passes, stop booting the ball to no one up field, stop dribbling into closed alleys, stop being afraid to shoot, stop losing concentration on basic defensive duties... all signs of pressure getting to them. If our team plays to their ability, we should steamroller people.

Why reinvent the wheel when we just need more air in the tire

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:45 pm
by Ted Hughes
bigblue wrote:
Grob wrote:Well now the pressures off Mancini needs to come up with a new plan, a new pattern of play, that will get us scoring goals again and winning matches.


Why?

How about our world class players actually start performing to their ability. You know - stop fucking up 5 yard passes, stop booting the ball to no one up field, stop dribbling into closed alleys, stop being afraid to shoot, stop losing concentration on basic defensive duties... all signs of pressure getting to them. If our team plays to their ability, we should steamroller people.

Why reinvent the wheel when we just need more air in the tire


Because there's more to football than just tactics charts & he is the bloke who signed most of them. It's his job.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:47 pm
by Alex Sapphire
Have we really all given up?
I fookin hope the team hasn't
The Scum still have to play sides that took 11 points off us. We only need them to take 6 points off them and we are back in the race.
If the Rags do better against Swansea, Everton and Sunderland than we did then fair play, but let's not write off them and us just yet.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:51 pm
by Grob
Alex Sapphire wrote:Have we really all given up?
I fookin hope the team hasn't
The Scum still have to play sides that took 11 points off us. We only need them to take 6 points off them and we are back in the race.
If the Rags do better against Swansea, Everton and Sunderland than we did then fair play, but let's not write off them and us just yet.


You never truely give up untill its mathematically impossble but being realistic, theres a 95% chance, maybe more, that will finish 2nd so analysing accordingly isnt unfair.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:53 pm
by Grob
bigblue wrote:
Grob wrote:Well now the pressures off Mancini needs to come up with a new plan, a new pattern of play, that will get us scoring goals again and winning matches.


Why?

How about our world class players actually start performing to their ability. You know - stop fucking up 5 yard passes, stop booting the ball to no one up field, stop dribbling into closed alleys, stop being afraid to shoot, stop losing concentration on basic defensive duties... all signs of pressure getting to them. If our team plays to their ability, we should steamroller people.

Why reinvent the wheel when we just need more air in the tire


So what your saying is the players are underperforming.

So that means either Mancini cant get the best out of them, or they dont want to play for him.

Which do you think it is?

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:00 pm
by bigblue
Ted Hughes wrote:
bigblue wrote:
Grob wrote:Well now the pressures off Mancini needs to come up with a new plan, a new pattern of play, that will get us scoring goals again and winning matches.


Why?

How about our world class players actually start performing to their ability. You know - stop fucking up 5 yard passes, stop booting the ball to no one up field, stop dribbling into closed alleys, stop being afraid to shoot, stop losing concentration on basic defensive duties... all signs of pressure getting to them. If our team plays to their ability, we should steamroller people.

Why reinvent the wheel when we just need more air in the tire


Because there's more to football than just tactics charts & he is the bloke who signed most of them. It's his job.


I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not. If not - no matter how you arrange the X's and O's, no matter how much you drill the proper way of playing in the team's head - they still have to walk onto the field and actually perform. And I don't think anyone can say that our players have done our team justice with their levels of performance recently.

I could see blaming most of our recent form on Mancini if the players didn't fuck up the most basic details of the game. But the team got scared (or something) and under-performed. Hopefully now that the pressure is off, the aggregated nervousness and disappointment will be vented into an unequivocal destruction of any team before us

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:06 pm
by bigblue
Grob wrote:So what your saying is the players are underperforming.

So that means either Mancini cant get the best out of them, or they dont want to play for him.

Which do you think it is?


Why are those the only two options?! It could mean that it was the first time that they have collectively been challenging for a title at this stage in the season. It could mean that fatigue got the best of them. It could mean that they were not strong enough mentally as individuals. It could mean that other teams have been raising their game against us and the players weren't used to it. It could mean many, many things.

Quit framing the question in such narrow terms. You'd make a perfect writer for Sky, where they only opinions are: "Mancini is not good enough" or "The players don't respect Mancini" - Regurgitating bullshit

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:09 pm
by ross.mcfc
I am pretty convinced United will drop points tonight which will mean the pressure is back on tomorrow night.

Re: Pressure off = change of form?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:17 pm
by Beefymcfc
Ted Hughes wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:[urlnp=http://www.mcfc.co.uk/citytv/Interviews/2012/April/Roberto-Mancini-previews-City-v-West-Brom-10-April]OS - Arsenal Post-Match Day Interview With Mancini[/urlnp]


Love that chart on the wall with all the players in little groups on the pitch & Owen Hargreaves on his own in the grey bit at the side, presumably doing a few exercises.

I was hoping they'd pan across to see our right-hand side, or even the strikers. I couldn't see Kolarov anywhere either.