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So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:28 pm
by brite blu sky
Slipped under the radar a bit didn't it but we are guarenteed to be in the Chumps League next season. Not sure if that means outright or we can still end up in the qualifyers.
Either way, let's hope we somehow climb up a ranking before the draw, I doubt that somehow so let's hope we don't get as tough a draw as last time.
Outside that I'm left thinking that we only just coped with covering the games we had with the squad, so with a view to doing better this time we may need a couple of new players in. That maybe gonna happen anyway as discussed elsewhere, but I'm thinking here a Barry type backup/understudy.

So the real question is did we learn enough in the games we had to make a better shot at it. Personally I thought we looked decent and basically apart from a mini collapse v Bayern looked the better team in our games. The main thing is if both Mancini and the players have learnt enough from the Napoli games to not get caught out in the same way.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:32 pm
by ashton287
13 points clear of third with 12 left to play fir so we don't have to worry about any qualifiers do we.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:36 pm
by brite blu sky
Just as well, we may have got Midgtland again.
phew!

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:45 pm
by mr_nool
brite blu sky wrote:Slipped under the radar a bit didn't it but we are guarenteed to be in the Chumps League next season. Not sure if that means outright or we can still end up in the qualifyers.
Either way, let's hope we somehow climb up a ranking before the draw, I doubt that somehow so let's hope we don't get as tough a draw as last time.
Outside that I'm left thinking that we only just coped with covering the games we had with the squad, so with a view to doing better this time we may need a couple of new players in. That maybe gonna happen anyway as discussed elsewhere, but I'm thinking here a Barry type backup/understudy.

So the real question is did we learn enough in the games we had to make a better shot at it. Personally I thought we looked decent and basically apart from a mini collapse v Bayern looked the better team in our games. The main thing is if both Mancini and the players have learnt enough from the Napoli games to not get caught out in the same way.


I think our main shortcoming in the Chumps was our nativity. We played very attacking, even away from home, and underestimated the opponents.

I think Bob and the team has learned from that and will be much better prepared next season.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:50 pm
by phips
mr_nool wrote:I think our main shortcoming in the Chumps was our nativity.

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Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:57 pm
by mr_nool
phips wrote:
mr_nool wrote:I think our main shortcoming in the Chumps was our nativity.

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It's the bloody auto-correct in my browser. Meant naivety, obviously, although we could have done with someone with a good cross.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:05 pm
by brite blu sky
mr_nool wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:Slipped under the radar a bit didn't it but we are guarenteed to be in the Chumps League next season. Not sure if that means outright or we can still end up in the qualifyers.
Either way, let's hope we somehow climb up a ranking before the draw, I doubt that somehow so let's hope we don't get as tough a draw as last time.
Outside that I'm left thinking that we only just coped with covering the games we had with the squad, so with a view to doing better this time we may need a couple of new players in. That maybe gonna happen anyway as discussed elsewhere, but I'm thinking here a Barry type backup/understudy.

So the real question is did we learn enough in the games we had to make a better shot at it. Personally I thought we looked decent and basically apart from a mini collapse v Bayern looked the better team in our games. The main thing is if both Mancini and the players have learnt enough from the Napoli games to not get caught out in the same way.


I think our main shortcoming in the Chumps was our nativity. We played very attacking, even away from home, and underestimated the opponents.

I think Bob and the team has learned from that and will be much better prepared next season.


I'm not yet convinced they have learnt, Bob or the players. I rekon if asked they would all say. Oh yes we have learnt we can't be like that... and then go do exactly the same thing. imo this lot are good at Thinking they have learnt.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:06 pm
by LookMumImOnMCF.net
If Chelsea win it (snigger) and so qualify does second place need to go through the qualifiers?

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:16 pm
by Socrates
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:If Chelsea win it (snigger) and so qualify does second place need to go through the qualifiers?


No.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:54 pm
by 1950
As things stand only the 4th placed team goes into the qualifiers, so I don't see where all the concern comes from.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:39 pm
by phips
1950 wrote:As things stand only the 4th placed team goes into the qualifiers, so I don't see where all the concern comes from.

So if Chelsea wins the CL and dont place in the top 4 of the PL, the top 3 get in automatically, fourth place has to qualify, and Chelsea automatically get in because the won. So potentially 5 PL teams could make it to the group stages....right?

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:47 pm
by halnone
phips wrote:
1950 wrote:As things stand only the 4th placed team goes into the qualifiers, so I don't see where all the concern comes from.

So if Chelsea wins the CL and dont place in the top 4 of the PL, the top 3 get in automatically, fourth place has to qualify, and Chelsea automatically get in because the won. So potentially 5 PL teams could make it to the group stages....right?


Wouldn't the 4th place team just lose a CL spot?

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:17 am
by Blue in the face
halnone wrote:
phips wrote:
1950 wrote:As things stand only the 4th placed team goes into the qualifiers, so I don't see where all the concern comes from.

So if Chelsea wins the CL and dont place in the top 4 of the PL, the top 3 get in automatically, fourth place has to qualify, and Chelsea automatically get in because the won. So potentially 5 PL teams could make it to the group stages....right?


Wouldn't the 4th place team just lose a CL spot?


I think I heard this on the TV the other night. Thought it would be funny if the Spuds get chucked out.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:18 am
by freshie
mr_nool wrote:
phips wrote:
mr_nool wrote:I think our main shortcoming in the Chumps was our nativity.

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It's the bloody auto-correct in my browser. Meant naivety, obviously, [highlight]although we could have done with someone with a good cross[/highlight].


Haha, good comeback/resurrection

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:37 am
by 1950
phips wrote:
1950 wrote:As things stand only the 4th placed team goes into the qualifiers, so I don't see where all the concern comes from.

So if Chelsea wins the CL and dont place in the top 4 of the PL, the top 3 get in automatically, fourth place has to qualify, and Chelsea automatically get in because the won. So potentially 5 PL teams could make it to the group stages....right?

No, as stated above 4th place ends up in the Europa. Not sure whether 3rd place has to play the qualifiers, but since it doesn't concern us, I couldn't care less either way.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:08 am
by phips
1950 wrote:
phips wrote:
1950 wrote:As things stand only the 4th placed team goes into the qualifiers, so I don't see where all the concern comes from.

So if Chelsea wins the CL and dont place in the top 4 of the PL, the top 3 get in automatically, fourth place has to qualify, and Chelsea automatically get in because the won. So potentially 5 PL teams could make it to the group stages....right?

No, as stated above 4th place ends up in the Europa. Not sure whether 3rd place has to play the qualifiers, but since it doesn't concern us, I couldn't care less either way.

I didn't ask if you cared. I asked for information.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:30 am
by 1950
phips wrote:
1950 wrote:
phips wrote:
1950 wrote:As things stand only the 4th placed team goes into the qualifiers, so I don't see where all the concern comes from.

So if Chelsea wins the CL and dont place in the top 4 of the PL, the top 3 get in automatically, fourth place has to qualify, and Chelsea automatically get in because the won. So potentially 5 PL teams could make it to the group stages....right?

No, as stated above 4th place ends up in the Europa. Not sure whether 3rd place has to play the qualifiers, but since it doesn't concern us, I couldn't care less either way.

I didn't ask if you cared. I asked for information.

I apologise for being a naughty information fetching lapdog & adding my opinion, how dare I.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:35 am
by Beefymcfc
If Chelsea won the CL they would get in the qualifiers instead of the 4th place team if the association deems it, I think.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:44 am
by feedthegreek
Beefymcfc wrote:If Chelsea won the CL they would get in the qualifiers instead of the 4th place team if the association deems it, I think.

correct.

Re: So next seasons Chumps

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:46 am
by Beefymcfc
feedthegreek wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:If Chelsea won the CL they would get in the qualifiers instead of the 4th place team if the association deems it, I think.

correct.

Like a tramp on chips ;-)