The mancityfans.net football forum

I've just traced 4 pages back and can't find it but I'm sure there's a thread on this.

Anyway, there's been a lot of talk of who deserves to win the league and quite a few who think it's us, even though they are Bitter Rag Noses. But who does, in your opinion, on the state of a seasons play, deserve it?

Beefymcfc wrote:I've just traced 4 pages back and can't find it but I'm sure there's a thread on this.

Anyway, there's been a lot of talk of who deserves to win the league and quite a few who think it's us, even though they are Bitter Rag Noses. But who does, in your opinion, on the state of a seasons play, deserve it?

Bit of a dumb question on here beefster mate.But i think we do you only have to look at our stats to see it.

gillie wrote:

Beefymcfc wrote:I've just traced 4 pages back and can't find it but I'm sure there's a thread on this.

Anyway, there's been a lot of talk of who deserves to win the league and quite a few who think it's us, even though they are Bitter Rag Noses. But who does, in your opinion, on the state of a seasons play, deserve it?

Bit of a dumb question on here beefster mate.But i think we do you only have to look at our stats to see it.

Very true, but do people really think we do; and why?

Truly! truly free of Blue bias I cannot sense how the answer might be other than MCFC.
The Lads have led the table for the longer spell of the season, played the most brilliant football for pretty almost the whole of it bar a couple of games, despite having to cope with the heaviest influence/impact of the ACoN (read missing missing the most influential player in YaYa), scored more goals, allowed lesser, thus best GD, golden glove, etc.
and I discount the injuries argument, because the Rags had their fair part of them, possibly even a little more, particularly when considering the huge credit balance - in our favour - quality roster wise.

Also, because I try to withdraw the "You are bitter" argument, I do not make reference to the double standard suffered refereeing wise.
In an ideal world - refereed by non faulty robots - when do You reckon, City would have been crowned Champions?

We deserve it because we have the best keeper,the best defence,the best midfield and the best strikers (even if I have to grudgingly accept shrek as one of the best.And we will have the best goal difference and possibly the best points total.

Add to that we have the best fans.Is that enough?

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:We deserve it because we have the best keeper,the best defence,the best midfield and the best strikers (even if I have to grudgingly accept shrek as one of the best.And we will have the best goal difference and possibly the best points total.

Add to that we have the best fans.Is that enough?

I don't know Douglas, we have the best training reports but do we have the best access ;-\

Beefymcfc wrote:

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:We deserve it because we have the best keeper,the best defence,the best midfield and the best strikers (even if I have to grudgingly accept shrek as one of the best.And we will have the best goal difference and possibly the best points total.

Add to that we have the best fans.Is that enough?

I don't know Douglas, we have the best training reports but do we have the best access ;-\

I think you're forgetting all the injuries to key players United suffered this season.
Oh, and also that they are in transitional period where with a lot of young players taking over from the old guard.

Beating scum twice, beating Spurs twice, beating chelsea, arse scouse at home. The home record, the unbeaten record breaking start to the season, best defense, best attack.

Doing fucking well in the champions league, getting enough points to have qualified from most other groups this year and in previous years too, despite it being the group of death.

Fa cup, entertaining game even though we lost

League Cup Semi, should have fucking won that too.

Massive seasons from Hart, Kompany, Lescott, Yaya, Silva, Aguero.

Good fair play (excluding Balotellis stupid pointless red cards that weren't dirty cunt tackles really) but at the same time not allowing ourselves to be bullied.

Best attacking passing football.

Yes, no one else comes close.

Spuds..........won it back in December if my memory serves me right?

Sister of fu wrote:Spuds..........won it back in December if my memory serves me right?

And also they play the best football :)

mr_nool wrote:

Beefymcfc wrote:

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:We deserve it because we have the best keeper,the best defence,the best midfield and the best strikers (even if I have to grudgingly accept shrek as one of the best.And we will have the best goal difference and possibly the best points total.

Add to that we have the best fans.Is that enough?

I don't know Douglas, we have the best training reports but do we have the best access ;-\

I think you're forgetting all the injuries to key players United suffered this season.
Oh, and also that they are in transitional period where with a lot of young players taking over from the old guard.

Damn I meant to mention we have the best medical staff as well.

I think in professional sports, just as in life that "deserve" is a misused word. The
fans lucky enough to witness a championship in their lifetime should just thank their lucky
stars. If we win it that will be good enough for me.

The only team that deserves it is the team with the most points every season (even if it is the rags.) Failing points then the goal difference is the decider, as in the rules as we all know. Come Sunday, it better fucling be us!!

As Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven, "Deserving's got nothing to do with it"

Lev Bronstein wrote:As Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven, "Deserving's got nothing to do with it"

I was thinking about that quote. Why was I too pussy to mention it!!

We've done brilliantly against them, they've done better than us against the rest of the league.

This weekend will show who deserves it more.

All the stats would say us. A neutral would probably say we've played the best football. But it all comes down to Sunday.

Considering the points haul we've both got, whoever wins deserves it and whoever loses will consider themselves hard done by.

I agree that the team that deserves it is the team at the top come the end of the season

With all the rags blowing their load when they went 8 points clear the script is written for the most remarkable comeback in premier league history

We have to believe that this is our time

Copied from the Thursday Bollox thread:

Manchester City: Why the Citizens Deserve to Win the Premier League By Dan Talintyre

As a Manchester United supporter, I'm bracing for the inevitable this weekend—that Manchester City will win the English Premier league in 2012.
I've cheered on every team they've come up against in recent weeks. I've become a Newcastle supporter, an Arsenal supporter and will probably become a Queens Park Rangers supporter in the hope that the Citizens will fall at the final hurdle.
Obviously I'm just hoping that somehow, Manchester United will win the league and Sir Alex Ferguson will get to lift the trophy once more. Yet as we head into the final match of the Premier League season, I know that this simply will not happen.
Manchester City will win the league.
It's frustrating to write but not difficult as throughout the year, Roberto Mancini's men have been the better of the two Manchester sides. City do deserve the title that they'll lift high on Sunday, and they have been the superior team.This is a side that has found the back of the net 90 times this season, and whilst those numbers aren't quite in the Real Madrid league, they still show City's attacking prowess this season.
That goal tally equates to around 2.43 goals per game—the highest average in the league.
Throughout 37 Premier League matches, the Citizens scored two or more goals on 25 of those occasions and have held a clean sheet at the other end in half of those matches.
In fact, as well as having the best attack, City also can claim the best defense with just 27 goals conceded this season—again, the fewest in the league. For all their away troubles this season, Mancini's men have conceded just 17 goals away and even fewer at home.
At home, they've simply been outstanding this season.
They haven't lost, only had the one draw and have conceded just 10 goals in 18 matches. That's an average of 0.55 goals per game or a clean sheet in 61 percent of their home matches, which, again, is the best in the league.
Keep in mind also that out of those 10 goals they've conceded, three of them came in their 3-3 draw with Sunderland and two of them came in their 3-2 defeat of Tottenham. Taking out those two matches, it's really just five goals conceded in 16 matches then for City.
Manchester United cannot claim the offensive and defensive superiority of Manchester City, nor can they claim the same home-ground advantage.
Few City fans—and few United fans—will be able to forget the 6-1 annihilation that the Citizens put on the Red Devils at Old Trafford back in October last year as it perhaps signaled the changing of the guard in terms of English footballing dominance.
City won both meetings between this year in the Premier League, with their recent 1-0 win over United the win that perhaps sealed the championship for them.
Sir Alex Ferguson's men may have got their revenge to some extent in the FA Cup, but seeing that they were promptly bundled out in the next round, the revenge was only short lived.
Oh, and there was the Community Shield at the start of the year.
So we've got the shield and an FA Cup win that didn't equate to much compared to a 6-1 flogging at their home ground and a 1-0 loss that surrendered the Premier League to our rivals.
I know which one I'd rather have and again, it shows that Manchester City truly were the more superior team in the Premier League this season and that they do deserve their league title.
Against the top five sides in the league, Manchester United has recorded three losses and a draw, whilst City have just the one loss. That's 11 points that the Red Devils have dropped as opposed to just three from City—there's your league title right there.
However, the league has been won and lost in the last six weeks alone—regardless of what else has happened during the year. The last six weeks was where City won—and United lost—the trophy.
Back at the start of April, City had all but surrendered the title to Manchester United. They'd lost another away match to Arsenal and were eight points back in the title race with six weeks to go.
They had a tough run at home too—playing at home to Manchester United, as well as tough away fixtures at Norwich, Wolves and Newcastle United who were eying a Champions League berth next year.
United, on the other hand, were cruising and already had one hand on the trophy.
They won eight in a row and hadn't lost in their past 12 matches. David De Gea hadn't been beaten in his last five matches. They had the return fixture to Manchester City, but other than that, had just an home game to Everton and an away game to Sunderland to worry about.
The title was theirs, so to speak.
Whilst United somehow threw away their title chances with losses to Wigan and City, as well as a 4-4 draw at home to Everton, City did what they had to do and won football games.
In their last five matches where United have secured just seven points, City have secured 15—doing what they had to do and win football games.
And when it appeared the league title would all come down to the Manchester derby, United came out and tried to play defense for 90 minutes, whilst City, you guessed it, did what they had to do and won the football game.
So as Manchester City lift the Premier League trophy high over the weekend, I'll no doubt be disappointed as I wanted my Red Devils to be the ones celebrating—but I won't be confused.
For the better team really will have won, and the better team will have finished first.
It's nothing against United—I think they were the superior side for 35 weeks of the Premier League.
Manchester City simply have been the superior of the two sides this year and have shown it through their dominant record, imposing home-ground advantage and their success over United.
So congratulations to Mancini and the Citizens, the rightful winners of the league.
Doesn't mean I won't be cheering for Queens Park Rangers come Sunday though.

This^^^^^^ was written by a city fan. There are a couple of mistakes in there, such as where the writer slips up and refers to a win at old trafford as a win at 'their' ground

Nice effort though, but why would someone go to the effort of such trolling?