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different cultures

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:12 pm
by Alex Sapphire
this story reminds us that our fantastic owners occupy a world with different standards than our own.
Abu Dhabi


A British man reportedly convicted of supplying cannabis in the United Arab Emirates is facing the death penalty, the Foreign Office says.

He has not been named but UAE newspaper the National says he is 21 years-old.

It said an Abu Dhabi court heard how he sold an undercover officer 20g of the drug worth 1,500 UAE Dirhams (£262).

The Foreign Office said it was in "contact with the British national and his legal team and continue to provide consular assistance".

"I can confirm that a British national is facing death penalty in the UAE," a spokesman said.

But he said the Foreign Office was unable to confirm details of the case.

The newspaper report said that the Briton had been arrested alongside a 19-year-old Syrian man.

The Briton's mother collapsed outside the court after the sentence was passed, it added.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:42 pm
by Ted Hughes
I bet he won't do it again.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:48 pm
by mr_nool
Ted Hughes wrote:I bet he won't do it again.


Incredibly tasteless, but very funny.
One a more serious note, this sort on news stories won't do much good for our "brand".

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:49 pm
by blue 68
I'm in Turkey at the moment, and the midnight express movie comes to mind, but can't find pot or pork for love or money
Alex Sapphire wrote:this story reminds us that our fantastic owners occupy a world with different standards than our own.
Abu Dhabi


A British man reportedly convicted of supplying cannabis in the United Arab Emirates is facing the death penalty, the Foreign Office says.

He has not been named but UAE newspaper the National says he is 21 years-old.

It said an Abu Dhabi court heard how he sold an undercover officer 20g of the drug worth 1,500 UAE Dirhams (£262).

The Foreign Office said it was in "contact with the British national and his legal team and continue to provide consular assistance".

"I can confirm that a British national is facing death penalty in the UAE," a spokesman said.

But he said the Foreign Office was unable to confirm details of the case.

The newspaper report said that the Briton had been arrested alongside a 19-year-old Syrian man.

The Briton's mother collapsed outside the court after the sentence was passed, it added.
money

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:55 pm
by gillie
blue 68 wrote:I'm in Turkey at the moment, and the midnight express movie comes to mind, but can't find pot or pork for love or money
Alex Sapphire wrote:this story reminds us that our fantastic owners occupy a world with different standards than our own.
Abu Dhabi


A British man reportedly convicted of supplying cannabis in the United Arab Emirates is facing the death penalty, the Foreign Office says.

He has not been named but UAE newspaper the National says he is 21 years-old.

It said an Abu Dhabi court heard how he sold an undercover officer 20g of the drug worth 1,500 UAE Dirhams (£262).

The Foreign Office said it was in "contact with the British national and his legal team and continue to provide consular assistance".

"I can confirm that a British national is facing death penalty in the UAE," a spokesman said.

But he said the Foreign Office was unable to confirm details of the case.

The newspaper report said that the Briton had been arrested alongside a 19-year-old Syrian man.

The Briton's mother collapsed outside the court after the sentence was passed, it added.
money

Midnight Express one of my most favourite films ever.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:59 pm
by blue 68
gillie wrote:
blue 68 wrote:I'm in Turkey at the moment, and the midnight express movie comes to mind, but can't find pot or pork for love or money
Alex Sapphire wrote:this story reminds us that our fantastic owners occupy a world with different standards than our own.
Abu Dhabi


A British man reportedly convicted of supplying cannabis in the United Arab Emirates is facing the death penalty, the Foreign Office says.

He has not been named but UAE newspaper the National says he is 21 years-old.

It said an Abu Dhabi court heard how he sold an undercover officer 20g of the drug worth 1,500 UAE Dirhams (£262).

The Foreign Office said it was in "contact with the British national and his legal team and continue to provide consular assistance".

"I can confirm that a British national is facing death penalty in the UAE," a spokesman said.

But he said the Foreign Office was unable to confirm details of the case.

The newspaper report said that the Briton had been arrested alongside a 19-year-old Syrian man.

The Briton's mother collapsed outside the court after the sentence was passed, it added.
money

Midnight Express one of my most favourite films ever.


Mine too, changed my perspective on life, long before banged up abroad turned up on TV

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:15 pm
by bluebananamilksheikh
mr_nool wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I bet he won't do it again.


[highlight]Incredibly tasteless[/highlight], but very funny.
One a more serious note, this sort on news stories won't do much good for our "brand".

Tasteless, yes but incredibly true.
Different countries have different cultures and Laws, you have to respect these and abide by them.
This is a harsh sentence, but the UAE are well known for their views on drugs, public indecency etc.
Why take the risk, especially dealing ?

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:50 pm
by DoomMerchant
bluebananamilksheikh wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I bet he won't do it again.


[highlight]Incredibly tasteless[/highlight], but very funny.
One a more serious note, this sort on news stories won't do much good for our "brand".

Tasteless, yes but incredibly true.
Different countries have different cultures and Laws, you have to respect these and abide by them.
This is a harsh sentence, but the UAE are well known for their views on drugs, public indecency etc.
Why take the risk, especially dealing ?


i can't imagine anyone in their right mind would be selling anything in a country like that...you know yr dealing with some hammurabi code-type bullshit, so what you get is what you get.

I'm not a proponent of the death penalty, but i also know that each country's cultural sensibilities are typically beyond the reach of "western influence" when it comes to trying to map our social mores onto their judicial system.

Sad news for the kid and his family for sure...how do they execute people in Abu Dhabi?

cheers

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:05 pm
by Dameerto
Firing squad - not sure if that's the ONLY method, but it was used last year.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:28 am
by Ted Hughes
Could he be stoned ?

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:37 am
by carl_feedthegoat
Ted Hughes wrote:Could he be stoned ?


Alcohol is banned mate.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:42 am
by Socrates
I can't imagine they will actually do this, the High Court will commute it to a prison term and fine.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:35 am
by Swales4ever
absolutely agree with the general consensum: dealing with / approaching different cultures means first and foremost:
a) respect the rules a nation have set for their ethos
b) don't be so blind and daft to assume for granted the comfort spot provided by our own ethos

also agree that Midnight Express springs automatically to mind: great and very telling movie, which shocked me too in my proceding to become of a man.
I remember having dealt with a case of a vessel arrested when entered the Saudi national waters with the master facing aptutation penalty because a sailor had found in possession of alchool and porno magazines. and that despite clear procedures established by the shipowing co. that provided for inspection of the personnel before entering the Saudi waters.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:15 am
by Alex Sapphire
Socrates wrote:I can't imagine they will actually do this, the High Court will commute it to a prison term and fine.


they did commute one a couple of years ago but only because on appeal he proved it was for personal use. This kid was selling. Up to now their stance on sentencing for dealing looks pretty straightforward.
Even if the Royal family show mercy (good press?) the likely sentence will be long.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:38 am
by Socrates
Alex Sapphire wrote:
Socrates wrote:I can't imagine they will actually do this, the High Court will commute it to a prison term and fine.


they did commute one a couple of years ago but only because on appeal he proved it was for personal use. This kid was selling. Up to now their stance on sentencing for dealing looks pretty straightforward.
Even if the Royal family show mercy (good press?) the likely sentence will be long.


They commuted a Canadian's, a few years back, to ten years in jail and a fine and he was caught with 4kg ofthe stuff and counterfeit goods as well.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:58 am
by Moonchesteri
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Could he be stoned ?


Alcohol is banned mate.


Haha.
it's so wrong to laugh at posts in this thread but I just can't help it.

but why on earth was that kid dealing there. it was stupid risk tto take and now he's paying for it

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:41 am
by Rag_hater
13 quid a gram.No wonder the fucker did it.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:58 am
by Ted Hughes
Moonchesteri wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Could he be stoned ?


Alcohol is banned mate.


Haha.
it's so wrong to laugh at posts in this thread but I just can't help it.

but why on earth was that kid dealing there. it was stupid risk tto take and now he's paying for it


Greed & a lack of respect for the laws of that country. Same as here but with different consequences. Firing squd by the regulators there, stuck in a car boot & burned alive by the regulators here.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:07 am
by ashton287
A few harsher sentences wouldn't go amiss over here if you ask me.

Death for dealing drugs is abit harsh on the face of it but when I was in school there were lads of 11 smoking weed. I know if some cunt sold my son drugs I would fucking kill him with a smile on my face. Drug dealers are scumbags and they ruin and kill other people and families for an Audi and an iPhone so fuck the cunts.

Re: different cultures

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:21 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Ted Hughes wrote:Could he be stoned ?


Now that was brilliant. 10/10.