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Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:57 pm
by King Kev
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:09 pm
by gillie
Well i reckon the scottish first div clubs will be rubbing their hands at the extra revenue they will get when Rangers come to town.
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:10 pm
by DoomMerchant
I'm less cynical about this....
As many know, i think the lack of historical insight from the English that "modern" football was built on the back of Scottish immigrants creating a professional class player about 100 years ago is tragic, and the ultimate demise, if you can call it that but it's more of a denouement, of Scottish football is sad really.
i think that it's time to bring those scottish clubs into the English system in League One. Sure, some English clubs will have some gripes, but get the Scottish teams to "pay to play" and create a fund that benefits lower divisions. If you are in League One i'm sure 100K a year from the Scottish clubs that would have the funds to play in English leagues would make a difference to your club. Better still, earmark that cash for youth development and you start to solve some of the core problems it seems that English football is allegedly plagued with from what i read.
Just to recap...imagine 20M spread over 10 seasons for League One clubs to spend on their youth setup. Would that matter to English clubs?
just spitballing as they say, so don't get too wrapped up around my maths, but...you get the point i think. What do you think?
cheers
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:44 pm
by Dameerto
I'm sure clubs in League two would love that.
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:44 pm
by Mase
Gutted for them. Their fans are wonderful people...
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:47 pm
by Michigan Blue
gillie wrote:Well i reckon the scottish first div clubs will be rubbing their hands at the extra revenue they will get when Rangers come to town.
I think they'll be inclined to wait a couple years if it means an unimpeded crack at the top flight and a chance for their SFL2 and SFL3 brethren to wet their beaks.
I keep imagining the Rags going into liquidation, forming a phoenix club, and the Prem blackmailing the Championship clubs into letting them parachute in, for "commercial" reasons. I reckon I'd lose a lot of interest in football if that came to pass.
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:50 pm
by Michigan Blue
DoomMerchant wrote:i think that it's time to bring those scottish clubs into the English system in League One. Sure, some English clubs will have some gripes, but get the Scottish teams to "pay to play" and create a fund that benefits lower divisions. If you are in League One i'm sure 100K a year from the Scottish clubs that would have the funds to play in English leagues would make a difference to your club. Better still, earmark that cash for youth development and you start to solve some of the core problems it seems that English football is allegedly plagued with from what i read.
Just to recap...imagine 20M spread over 10 seasons for League One clubs to spend on their youth setup. Would that matter to English clubs?
just spitballing as they say, so don't get too wrapped up around my maths, but...you get the point i think. What do you think?
Yes and in a few years time we'd all get to enjoy the dulcet tones of sectarian chanting at the Etihad.
No fucking thanks.
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:57 pm
by aaron bond
It's the right decision from a footballing sense, as they should be punished for managing their club in such a bad way.
However, it will have a big impact on Scottish football as the other SPL clubs do rely on the money brought in due to playing Rangers and Celtic each season.
Saying all that, I actually couldn't care less about it all. As long as there aren't any silly ideas to introduce the Scottish clubs into the English league, then I have no interest in football north of the border.
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:00 pm
by Dameerto
Have they given up on their idea about buying Burry's fixtures and closing the club down then?
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:25 pm
by Socrates
Michigan Blue wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:i think that it's time to bring those scottish clubs into the English system in League One. Sure, some English clubs will have some gripes, but get the Scottish teams to "pay to play" and create a fund that benefits lower divisions. If you are in League One i'm sure 100K a year from the Scottish clubs that would have the funds to play in English leagues would make a difference to your club. Better still, earmark that cash for youth development and you start to solve some of the core problems it seems that English football is allegedly plagued with from what i read.
Just to recap...imagine 20M spread over 10 seasons for League One clubs to spend on their youth setup. Would that matter to English clubs?
just spitballing as they say, so don't get too wrapped up around my maths, but...you get the point i think. What do you think?
Yes and
in a few years time we'd all get to enjoy the dulcet tones of sectarian chanting at the Etihad.No fucking thanks.
Could have that as soon as next year if Leeds get promoted...
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:41 pm
by Superbia
As an irishmen im delighted couldnt of happened to a better club
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:08 pm
by Crossie
Celtic can now offer lower wages, invest less in their squad and still win the league, lowering the quality another notch.
I'm glad I'm not Scottish, they are finished.
The only positive I see is that if one or two of the other shitty teams raise there game, it could make their league more interesting, and perhaps in turn more competitive. Who knows.
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:48 pm
by Beefymcfc
Have we got any Rangers fans on here, be good to get an insight from a supporter?
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:12 pm
by Mase
Beefymcfc wrote:Have we got any Rangers fans on here, be good to get an insight from a supporter?
Thing Ross is the only proper Rangers fan on here
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:14 pm
by Beefymcfc
Mase wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:Have we got any Rangers fans on here, be good to get an insight from a supporter?
Thing Ross is the only proper Rangers fan on here
It must be wrenching to go through, hope he gives us a post.
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:38 pm
by Ted Hughes
I don't give a fuck tbh.
We used to drop a league every other year, we're still here.
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:10 pm
by bobby brows
They should apply to join the Northern Counties East league and beat Celtic to the Premier League.
There is time for genuine reform in the SPL now
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:24 pm
by Burt
DoomMerchant wrote:I'm less cynical about this....
As many know, i think the lack of historical insight from the English that "modern" football was built on the back of Scottish immigrants creating a professional class player about 100 years ago is tragic, and the ultimate demise, if you can call it that but it's more of a denouement, of Scottish football is sad really.
Modern football was not built on the back of Scottish immigrants. Where da fuck did you get that misnomer from Doomie?!
i think that it's time to bring those scottish clubs into the English system in League One. Sure, some English clubs will have some gripes, but get the Scottish teams to "pay to play" and create a fund that benefits lower divisions. If you are in League One i'm sure 100K a year from the Scottish clubs that would have the funds to play in English leagues would make a difference to your club. Better still, earmark that cash for youth development and you start to solve some of the core problems it seems that English football is allegedly plagued with from what i read.
This is England. Why would we want another country's teams (especially Scotland who have a majority of people who hate the English) to play in our country?
Just to recap...imagine 20M spread over 10 seasons for League One clubs to spend on their youth setup. Would that matter to English clubs?
20m over 10 seasons would be like pissing in the wind.
just spitballing as they say, so don't get too wrapped up around my maths, but...you get the point i think. What do you think?
[b]You would need to be English to fully understand that concept mate.[/b]
cheers
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:49 pm
by Goaters 103
Rangers backer here, courtesy of a scottish grandparent and like a lot of Gers fans my feeling is the club should start at the bottom of the ladder in Division 3.
The financial implications of Gers being out of the SPL are far outweighed by what the right punishment is - to drop to the foot of the ladder and have to work back up. Rangers as they were no longer exist, its a newco now, and the sooner Charles Green fucls off and the club is put in the hands of people who genuinely care about it, the better.
The fans have been conned for a while but the club is big enough to come back, though a part of football history died when the old company was liquidated and those who mis-managed the club for years bear the responsibility for that scar that Rangers will carry forever.
Plenty of people are queueing up to but the boot in, and to be honest Rangers deserve all the flak they are getting as I can offer no defence bar the genuine stance that no Rangers fans had an inkling the woolf was so closer to the door when David Murray bailed out. He, along with Craig White will carry the stigma in history along with many others for how a great football club was brought to its knees.
Re: Rangers Have Been Thrown Out Of The SPL

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Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:09 pm
by bawbag
Goaters 103 wrote:Rangers backer here, courtesy of a scottish grandparent and like a lot of Gers fans my feeling is the club should start at the bottom of the ladder in Division 3.
The financial implications of Gers being out of the SPL are far outweighed by what the right punishment is - to drop to the foot of the ladder and have to work back up. Rangers as they were no longer exist, its a newco now, and the sooner Charles Green fucls off and the club is put in the hands of people who genuinely care about it, the better.
The fans have been conned for a while but the club is big enough to come back, though a part of football history died when the old company was liquidated and those who mis-managed the club for years bear the responsibility for that scar that Rangers will carry forever.
Plenty of people are queueing up to but the boot in, and to be honest Rangers deserve all the flak they are getting as I can offer no defence bar the genuine stance that no Rangers fans had an inkling the woolf was so closer to the door when David Murray bailed out. He, along with Craig White will carry the stigma in history along with many others for how a great football club was brought to its knees.
Superb post Goaters 3 - spot on. I'm not a Rangers sympathiser - in fact close to the opposite if anything.
I lived in Glasgow for 25 years and the arrogance of Rangers fans generally is obnoxious (compare Trafford Red Sox). We are the people etc etc and STILL it continues today after all the misdemeanours, they have no shame in what their club has done
They should go down to the bottom rung, so Div 3 it is for me without a shadow of a doubt.
Green and White - not good for Rangers ;-)
Cannot believe Craig White passed any previous 'credit' checks and you're right - Charles Green has NOT got any interest in Rangers - he'll be gone pretty soon too.
David Murray should also be very ashamed.