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62 wins

Exactly the same amount as Taggarts first 100 at the rags

In Bob We Trust

Beautiful.

Not to sound too apathetic but we are in a similar position to Taggart when he started out, just better.

Good find mate.

Interesting, especially as the Rags were pretty turd when he first took over.

Says a lot about Ferguson's ability rather than Mancini's

Im_Spartacus wrote:Interesting, especially as the Rags were pretty turd when he first took over.

Says a lot about Ferguson's ability rather than Mancini's

Funny.
I was under the impression that what Mancini got was little different than the wreck left by King Kenny at Anfield, just with plenty of anarchy in the changing room for makeweight, and that include our beloved skipper already listed as defensive midfielder, then.

In all honesty this is a top notch record, not only because it level on with the best (and most bastard) manager of the English Game, but just because they equally built a superb platform for long lasting success.
For accuracy, it's the second best record just after Mourinho, although incomparably more significant (for both) because the Clown - as usual - only refined an adjusted a very solid team already build by others.

But I can sense that the comparison of today 1st half football must have been a real pain in the arse for every Nostalgic.

Mancio4ever wrote:

Im_Spartacus wrote:Interesting, especially as the Rags were pretty turd when he first took over.

Says a lot about Ferguson's ability rather than Mancini's

Funny.
I was under the impression that what Mancini got was little different than the wreck left by King Kenny at Anfield, just with plenty of anarchy in the changing room for makeweight, and that include our beloved skipper already listed as defensive midfielder, then.

In all honesty this is a top notch record, not only because it level on with the best (and most bastard) manager of the English Game, but just because they equally built a superb platform for long lasting success.
For accuracy, it's the second best record just after Mourinho, although incomparably more significant (for both) because the Clown - as usual - only refined an adjusted a very solid team already build by others.

But I can sense that the comparison of today 1st half football must have been a real pain in the arse for every Nostalgic.

Bloody hell mate, Mancini walked into a team in the semi final of a cup and a couple of points away from 4th place.

He inherited a team with Hart, Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, De Jong, Barry, Tevez, Adebayor, Robinho - he hardly walked into training to find the likes of Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam as his star men

Bacon inherited some good players, but a team verging on being alcoholic, and effectively ditched the lot except Robson over the course of his first 2 years

My surprise is that in his 100 games he has won a cup and a league title, yet Ferguson was nowhere near either.

Im_Spartacus wrote:

Mancio4ever wrote:

Im_Spartacus wrote:Interesting, especially as the Rags were pretty turd when he first took over.

Says a lot about Ferguson's ability rather than Mancini's

Funny.
I was under the impression that what Mancini got was little different than the wreck left by King Kenny at Anfield, just with plenty of anarchy in the changing room for makeweight, and that include our beloved skipper already listed as defensive midfielder, then.

In all honesty this is a top notch record, not only because it level on with the best (and most bastard) manager of the English Game, but just because they equally built a superb platform for long lasting success.
For accuracy, it's the second best record just after Mourinho, although incomparably more significant (for both) because the Clown - as usual - only refined an adjusted a very solid team already build by others.

But I can sense that the comparison of today 1st half football must have been a real pain in the arse for every Nostalgic.

Bloody hell mate, Mancini walked into a team in the semi final of a cup and a couple of points away from 4th place.

He inherited a team with Hart, Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, De Jong, Barry, Tevez, Adebayor, Robinho - he hardly walked into training to find the likes of Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam as his star men

My surprise is that in his 100 games he has won a cup and a league title, yet Ferguson was nowhere near either.

Hart was offloaded at Birmingham because without potential.
Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Barry all have been reshaped, refined, improved into completely different players.
Nigel was, is and will always be a top bloke, a big positive influence in any dressing room who, sadly, can't pass forward nor jump up to PL requirements and who will always slow the tempo of any midfield line he will play in. I m curious to see if the Serie A slow tempo shall suit him better, though.
I can concede Tevez, just because I like You and everyone is entitled to steam off on a football forum, but if my memory serves well You didn't need more than 2 hands to count the goals Carlos had scored for City, then.
Adebayor and Robinho: really have I to start? because actually I quite don't like to slag any players who served at the Club.

100 great games.long may he continue.

Mancio4ever wrote:
Hart was offloaded at Birmingham because without potential.
Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Barry all have been reshaped, refined, improved into completely different players.
Nigel was, is and will always be a top bloke, a big positive influence in any dressing room who, sadly, can't pass forward nor jump up to PL requirements and who will always slow the tempo of any midfield line he will play in. I m curious to see if the Serie A slow tempo shall suit him better, though.
I can concede Tevez, just because I like You and everyone is entitled to steam off on a football forum, but if my memory serves well You didn't need more than 2 hands to count the goals Carlos had scored for City, then.
Adebayor and Robinho: really have I to start? because actually I quite don't like to slag any players who served at the Club.

That's not true, he went because he wanted matches for the sake of his development and couldn't be guaranteed them at City when Given (at the time) was doing well. I remember reading a lengthy article which was written around quotes from an interview with him and his frustration at not being able to play was leaking out with every word. Thankfully he proved his point with his performance at Birmingham, and the rest is history.

Green & Blue wrote:100 great games.long may he continue.

98 leading to 2, just 2 games to become a legend. I'm impressed.

Dameerto wrote:

Mancio4ever wrote:
Hart was offloaded at Birmingham because without potential.
Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Barry all have been reshaped, refined, improved into completely different players.
Nigel was, is and will always be a top bloke, a big positive influence in any dressing room who, sadly, can't pass forward nor jump up to PL requirements and who will always slow the tempo of any midfield line he will play in. I m curious to see if the Serie A slow tempo shall suit him better, though.
I can concede Tevez, just because I like You and everyone is entitled to steam off on a football forum, but if my memory serves well You didn't need more than 2 hands to count the goals Carlos had scored for City, then.
Adebayor and Robinho: really have I to start? because actually I quite don't like to slag any players who served at the Club.

That's not true, he went because he wanted matches for the sake of his development and couldn't be guaranteed them at City when Given (at the time) was doing well. I remember reading a lengthy article which was written around quotes from an interview with him and his frustration at not being able to play was leaking out with every word. Thankfully he proved his point with his performance at Birmingham, and the rest is history.

I stand corrected there, then. Even if, any time I saw a referee pointing at the corner flag for the opposition, a cold thrill of terror ran through my back, when Shay was on gollie. I can't remember the same when watching that Birmingham. jusst to talk of understanding and developing potential.

On the other hand, to Slur credit, Mancini still has plenty of b*ll*x to work out with his European Palmares, to match Taggart.
Until then, any comparison, already heard, with Big Mal and Joe Mercer just make me laugh.

Bob has taken 205 points from the 100 Premier League matches that he has been in charge of

He's also only lost 5 times at Eastlands since he's been here

Mancio4ever wrote:

Im_Spartacus wrote:

Mancio4ever wrote:

Im_Spartacus wrote:Interesting, especially as the Rags were pretty turd when he first took over.

Says a lot about Ferguson's ability rather than Mancini's

Funny.
I was under the impression that what Mancini got was little different than the wreck left by King Kenny at Anfield, just with plenty of anarchy in the changing room for makeweight, and that include our beloved skipper already listed as defensive midfielder, then.

In all honesty this is a top notch record, not only because it level on with the best (and most bastard) manager of the English Game, but just because they equally built a superb platform for long lasting success.
For accuracy, it's the second best record just after Mourinho, although incomparably more significant (for both) because the Clown - as usual - only refined an adjusted a very solid team already build by others.

But I can sense that the comparison of today 1st half football must have been a real pain in the arse for every Nostalgic.

Bloody hell mate, Mancini walked into a team in the semi final of a cup and a couple of points away from 4th place.

He inherited a team with Hart, Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, De Jong, Barry, Tevez, Adebayor, Robinho - he hardly walked into training to find the likes of Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam as his star men

My surprise is that in his 100 games he has won a cup and a league title, yet Ferguson was nowhere near either.

Hart was offloaded at Birmingham because without potential.
Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Barry all have been reshaped, refined, improved into completely different players.
Nigel was, is and will always be a top bloke, a big positive influence in any dressing room who, sadly, can't pass forward nor jump up to PL requirements and who will always slow the tempo of any midfield line he will play in. I m curious to see if the Serie A slow tempo shall suit him better, though.
I can concede Tevez, just because I like You and everyone is entitled to steam off on a football forum, but if my memory serves well You didn't need more than 2 hands to count the goals Carlos had scored for City, then.
Adebayor and Robinho: really have I to start? because actually I quite don't like to slag any players who served at the Club.

Sorry mate, you are talking bollocks. Whilst Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Barry have all improved - I would expect them to have improved over time, but how on earth can you say they weren't quality players to start with? As was De Jong, who despite his shortcomings, has been a pivotal player for us. Hart going to Birmingham was the making of him - he was Birmingham's player of the year and returned to Manchester ready to be a number one at a big club.

Mancini didn't like Adebayor, Robinho, Bellamy, and bombed them out for his own personal reasons. That does not mean they are poor players, it means Mancini didn't get on with them or didn't like them for one reason or another. Adebayor, was consistently amongst the premier league top scorer prior to joining City, Robinho was the 3rd top scorer in the league in his first season in England. As for Tevez, he had just scored 6 in 6 games when Mancini took over - hardly struggling was he?

By all means, praise where its due for Mancini, but don't start making shit up.

Whatever way you want to paint the picture, Mancini took over an excellent squad, and arguably failed with them in his first 6 months so has added to it. Ferguson took over an utter shambles, a bunch off pissheads, and sold them all within his first two or three years - yet had the same win ratio as Mancini in that duration.

Spartacus, Pal,
it's matter of opinion and I am certainly not in the mood for starting a revisionism polemic after all the leather face fuss.

I never said nor intended that Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Barry were/are poor players. all the opposite. I may not agree on that they were all deemed to flourish as they have done, just by Act of God and certainly not by Act of Taffia, but yet again I am pleased to concede that it's just matter of opinions.

Ade is a selfish cunt and will always be it wherever, Bellers is cult hero but a rioter nonetheless and Robinho, offloaded from Club to Club (just like the others 2), just to recall the last game he played, in the middle of second half suffered a slight muscle injury, the Milan manager asked him if he was ok to continue because wanted fresh legs upfront, he said sure boss, Allegri changed the other striker and Robinho felt down and stretched off just three minutes later, and Milan with 10 man on the pitch.

Once said that - it's only matter of opinions, basically - I beg Your pardon Mate, if undeliberatedly I hurted You.

end of the polemic. happy days. come on the Blues, which is all what matters, for both.

Im_Spartacus wrote:

Mancio4ever wrote:

Im_Spartacus wrote:Interesting, especially as the Rags were pretty turd when he first took over.

Says a lot about Ferguson's ability rather than Mancini's

Funny.
I was under the impression that what Mancini got was little different than the wreck left by King Kenny at Anfield, just with plenty of anarchy in the changing room for makeweight, and that include our beloved skipper already listed as defensive midfielder, then.

In all honesty this is a top notch record, not only because it level on with the best (and most bastard) manager of the English Game, but just because they equally built a superb platform for long lasting success.
For accuracy, it's the second best record just after Mourinho, although incomparably more significant (for both) because the Clown - as usual - only refined an adjusted a very solid team already build by others.

But I can sense that the comparison of today 1st half football must have been a real pain in the arse for every Nostalgic.

Bloody hell mate, Mancini walked into a team in the semi final of a cup and a couple of points away from 4th place.

He inherited a team with Hart, Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, De Jong, Barry, Tevez, Adebayor, Robinho - he hardly walked into training to find the likes of Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam as his star men

Bacon inherited some good players, but a team verging on being alcoholic, and effectively ditched the lot except Robson over the course of his first 2 years

My surprise is that in his 100 games he has won a cup and a league title, yet Ferguson was nowhere near either.

Bacon inherited the most expensive side in England from Atkinson, he ditched a lot but added more. Sound familiar?

Note that it is the tally from baconface's first 100 Premier League games that is being quoted (i.e.1993 onwards), not his first 100 games at his club.

Im_Spartacus wrote:, Robinho was the 3rd top scorer in the league in his first season in England.


Whatever way you want to paint the picture, Mancini took over an excellent squad, and arguably failed with them in his first 6 months so has added to it. Ferguson took over an utter shambles, a bunch off pissheads, and sold them all within his first two or three years - yet had the same win ratio as Mancini in that duration.

Robinho was finished at City under Hughes. When Mancini came in he talked him up and said what a big player he could be. After about two hours of football, he sold him. Not a success or failure, just Robinho and English football weren't going to work anymore.

Can't be arsed Googling it, but didn't Taggart take over after Atkinson finished second, in the season when they won the first 10 games? That side needed an overhaul, which was done at great expense, but it wasn't like he turned relegation candidates into title winners.

Considering he was on the verge of being sacked in his third year, I'm surprised his record is the same as Mancini's, considering where we've finished in that period.

Tokyo Blue wrote:Note that it is the tally from baconface's first 100 Premier League games that is being quoted (i.e.1993 onwards), not his first 100 games at his club.

43% pre-Premier League era.

...So based on what Tokyo is saying, what was Taggart's record in his first 100 games for the rags?

Mancio4ever wrote:Hart was offloaded at Birmingham because without potential.

The biggest piece of historical revisionism since Slobodan Milosevic grasped power. Fact.

bluemoon wrote:...So based on what Tokyo is saying, what was Taggart's record in his first 100 games for the rags?

45%
45 wins
34 draws
21 losses