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ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:26 pm
by john68
Here goes with the 1st bunch of stats from last season.

To make it easier to make sense of, I have extracted the figures from each individual game, totalled them up and split them into home/away columns.

There is a story to be told in there....All you have to do is drag it out and tell it....OVER TO YOU.


APPEARANCES DETAILS HOME AWAY TOTAL
Games Played 19 19 38
Minutes Played 1,710 1,710 3,420

DISTRIBUTION/PASSING RECORD
GK Successful Distribution 164 161 325
GK Unsuccessful Distribution 59 85 144
TOTAL 223 246 469
Successful Passes 316 302 618
Unsuccessful Passes 180 227 407
TOTAL PASSES 496 529 1025

DISTRIBUTION/PASSING ANALYSIS
Passes (Forward) 365 407 772
Passes (Left) 72 69 141
Passes (Right) 59 53 112
TOTAL 496 529 1025
Successful Long Balls 30 38 68
Unsuccessful Long Balls 95 112 207
TOTAL 125 150 275
Key Passes 1 1 2
Successful Passes (Excl Crosses/Corners) 152 141 293
Unsuccessful Passes (Excl Crosses/Corners) 121 142 263
Sucessfull Passes (Own Half) 117 99 216
Unsuccessful Passes (Own Half) 21 19 40
Successful Passes (Opps Half) 35 42 77
Unsuccessful Passes (Opps Half) 100 123 223
Successful Passes (Defensive 1/3) 91 75 166
Unsuccessful Passes (Defensive 1/3) 0 3 3
Successful Passes (Middle 1/3) 52 47 99
Unsuccessful Passes (Middle 1/3) 81 73 154
Successful Passes (Final 1/3) 9 19 28
Unsuccessful Passes (Final 1/3) 40 66 106
Successful (Short Passes) 88 81 169
Unsuccessful (Short Passes) 1 2 3
Successful (Long Passes) 64 60 124
Unsuccessful (Long Passes) 120 140 260
Total Clearances 10 21 31

DUELS
Arial Duels Won 1 0 1
Arial Duels Lost 0 0 0
Ground Duels Won 3 6 9
Ground Duels Lost 0 2 2
TOTAL DUELS WON 4 6 10
TOTAL DUELS LOST 0 2 2
TOTAL DUELS 4 8 12


GOALS
Goals Conceded (Inside The Box) 10 14 24
Goals Conceded (Outside The Box) 2 3 5
TOTAL GOALS CONCEDED 12 17 29

SAVES
Saves Made (From Inside The Box) 24 26 50
Saves Made (From Outside The Box) 20 27 47
Saves From Penalty 0 1 1
TOTAL SAVES 44 54 98

SAVES ANALYSIS
Catches 17 20 37
Punches 8 13 21
Drops 1 1 2
Crosses Not Claimed 3 0 3
Clean Sheets 11 6 17

FOULS
Total Fouls Conceded 0 1 1
Total Fouls won 2 6 8
Fouls Won In Danger Area 0 0 0
Fouls Won Not In danger Area 2 6 8
Penalties Conceded 0 1 1

MISC ITEMS
Touches 594 662 1256
Corners Conceded 12 12 24
Challenge Lost 0 1 1
Error Leading To A Goal 0 1 1
Error Leading To An Attempt 0 1 1
Shots On - Conceded 58 75 133
Shots On - Conceded (Inside The Box) 36 45 81
Shots On - Conceded (Outside The Box) 22 30 52
Big Chances Faced 16 30 46
Recoveries 175 175 350
Unsuccessful Ball Touch 0 1 1
Successful Ball Touches 0 0 0
Take-Ons Overrun 0 0 0
Compld 152 152 304

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:42 pm
by Ted Hughes
Cheers John, now if you could just do the same for the other 18 keepers in the league, we can start to get an idea whether the stats are good or bad.

Ta.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:53 pm
by mr fu
How many times has he been beaten to his left as opposed to his right this season, for club and country?

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:59 pm
by john68
mr fu wrote:How many times has he been beaten to his left as opposed to his right this season, for club and country?


Sorry Fuey, Not contained in the stats Mate.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:03 pm
by Ted Hughes
john68 wrote:
mr fu wrote:How many times has he been beaten to his left as opposed to his right this season, for club and country?


Sorry Fuey, Not contained in the stats Mate.


There's some feedback you could give them straight away; tell them their stats are shite.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:04 pm
by King Kev
Ted Hughes wrote:
john68 wrote:
mr fu wrote:How many times has he been beaten to his left as opposed to his right this season, for club and country?


Sorry Fuey, Not contained in the stats Mate.


There's some feedback you could give them straight away; tell them their stats are shite.

Maybe they have the stats but don't want to publish them as it might help our opposition.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:06 pm
by Ted Hughes
King Kev wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
john68 wrote:
mr fu wrote:How many times has he been beaten to his left as opposed to his right this season, for club and country?


Sorry Fuey, Not contained in the stats Mate.


There's some feedback you could give them straight away; tell them their stats are shite.

Maybe they have the stats but don't want to publish them as it might help our opposition.


Doubt it; makes the whole exercise pointless.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:19 pm
by john68
Ted Hughes wrote:Cheers John, now if you could just do the same for the other 18 keepers in the league, we can start to get an idea whether the stats are good or bad.

Ta.


For those who don't know, the raw data contains every action of every player in every Prem game from last season. They are presented in an individual game format and each players' figures have to be extracted, organised, separated into home and away groups and then totalled up, to get them into the format I have posted. Many hours of trudging through rows and columns of numbers.
My idea is to post each individual City player in an easier to read/study format and let the brains go to work, studying individual player performance.
Next. I would like to post comparative lists between City players of similar positions and roles (eg strikers, full backs etc).
If there is time and I have still got breath left in me, It would be interesting to compare City players with players from other clubs.

I thought 1 player a week would keep the series going and give the board chance to study the figures and make conclusions.

Feel free to make suggestions.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:23 pm
by john68
Ted Hughes wrote:
King Kev wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
john68 wrote:
mr fu wrote:How many times has he been beaten to his left as opposed to his right this season, for club and country?


Sorry Fuey, Not contained in the stats Mate.


There's some feedback you could give them straight away; tell them their stats are shite.

Maybe they have the stats but don't want to publish them as it might help our opposition.


Doubt it; makes the whole exercise pointless.


City have made it plain that they want to create an analytics community to interact with each other and feedback the club. I think it's a great idea and know we have the brains on here to create our own community. It would be good for our site to be feeding back constructive info to the club. What being a supporter is all about...and now we have the chance and the invitation.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:24 pm
by Ted Hughes
john68 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Cheers John, now if you could just do the same for the other 18 keepers in the league, we can start to get an idea whether the stats are good or bad.

Ta.


For those who don't know, the raw data contains every action of every player in every Prem game from last season. They are presented in an individual game format and each players' figures have to be extracted, organised, separated into home and away groups and then totalled up, to get them into the format I have posted. Many hours of trudging through rows and columns of numbers.
My idea is to post each individual City player in an easier to read/study format and let the brains go to work, studying individual player performance.
Next. I would like to post comparative lists between City players of similar positions and roles (eg strikers, full backs etc).
If there is time and I have still got breath left in me, It would be interesting to compare City players with players from other clubs.

I thought 1 player a week would keep the series going and give the board chance to study the figures and make conclusions.

Feel free to make suggestions.


Is there a set of stats for the best player in the league in each position from last season ? That would give something for a comparison.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:30 pm
by john68
No Ted, Just a huge set of raw stats to disemble and play with yourself.

Try downloading them mate. Most useful footie thing I have ever come across. Great point of reference to dip into when assessing any player. Because they are in individual game format, you can also asses how a player may be improving (getting worse) over a sesason.

They also contain a code to decipher the tactical line-up that game, which allows you to look at player performances in the different formats and roles and how they were affected by the manager's tactics.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:35 pm
by Ted Hughes
john68 wrote:No Ted, Just a huge set of raw stats to disemble and play with yourself.

Try downloading them mate. Most useful footie thing I have ever come across. Great point of reference to dip into when assessing any player. Because they are in individual game format, you can also asses how a player may be improving (getting worse) over a sesason.

They also contain a code to decipher the tactical line-up that game, which allows you to look at player performances in the different formats and roles and how they were affected by the manager's tactics.


It's very tempting but I may lose the remaining, non football, parts of my life if I get stuck into that lot.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:58 pm
by johnnyondioline
john68 wrote:No Ted, Just a huge set of raw stats to disemble and play with yourself.

Try downloading them mate. Most useful footie thing I have ever come across. Great point of reference to dip into when assessing any player. Because they are in individual game format, you can also asses how a player may be improving (getting worse) over a sesason.

They also contain a code to decipher the tactical line-up that game, which allows you to look at player performances in the different formats and roles and how they were affected by the manager's tactics.



I'm really interested in this & I think it would be really useful to have a suggestion thread as to what would be useful info. Someone mentioned the other Goalie details as wells as Joe Hart as a comparison. THis kind of feedback is useful

Its a staggering amount of data, over 2 million cells, which is also going to be supplemented with updates from this season, as and when it progresses.

Gillie just got a new job based on his sig making skills. Who knows if one of us might get a gig at City by uncovering something remarkable.

Appreciate some people may mock & i`m aware stats dont show everything............but our club is doing this for a reason and this is a great platform for like minded people to share, which is kind of the point

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:12 pm
by mr fu
Ted Hughes wrote:
King Kev wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
john68 wrote:
mr fu wrote:How many times has he been beaten to his left as opposed to his right this season, for club and country?


Sorry Fuey, Not contained in the stats Mate.


There's some feedback you could give them straight away; tell them their stats are shite.

Maybe they have the stats but don't want to publish them as it might help our opposition.


Doubt it; makes the whole exercise pointless.


7 League goals to his left
3 Champions League goals to his left
1 International goal to his left

0 to his right

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:34 am
by gillie
All his goals conceded to his left that is freakishly worrying.

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:16 am
by Blue Since 76
gillie wrote:All his goals conceded to his left that is freakishly worrying.


Or a coincidence. Not sure that was were Koswhatshisname was aiming on Sunday and nothing Hart or any other keeper could have done about it.

Same with Crouch last week - he burst through the area with a bit of juggling and toe poked it. Just coincidence that it was too the left.

Assuming most players will shoot across the keeper when it's a considered shot, does that mean the issue is more with the right side of midfield and defence?

Re: ANALYTICS 1.....JOE HART

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:40 pm
by Ted Hughes
As I said in the other thread; most players are right footed & defenders tend to stand in a position which blocks the near post, so it seems to me that most of the difficult shots Joe has to face from open play will go around him from the right side to his left.

Adam Johson will probably even his stats up a bit when we play Sunderland.