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Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:12 am
by Beefymcfc
Is he on a bonus payment to play?

If so, does it say alot about Villa's (Lerner's) funds? I only ask this because of his massive spending prior to the crash.

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:29 am
by bobby brows
Apparently Paul Lambert was asked a mere 22 questions about it last night:

Following the Reading match, Lambert, the Villa manager, was asked a total of 22 questions about Bent's absence. By the time the press conference was over, Lambert had insisted that he rated Bent as a player and rejected any suggestion that there was a problem with the striker's attitude or his application in training.

In other words, nobody was any the wiser as to why Bent has been frozen out. This is a transcript of the press conference questions about Bent:

Question Although Benteke had a big game tonight, people will mention Darren wasn't on the bench

Paul Lambert It was the same as Saturday. I just picked the same group that's deserved that chance to keep going. And I'll always do what I think's right for Aston Villa. That's what I will always do.

Q You do realise you are running a risk when with 10 minutes to go, instead of a £24m signing sat on the bench, you've got Jordan Bowery, who, with respect to him, he's not got the same credentials.

PL But you can't talk about ifs, buts and maybes. The reality is we won. I'll always make an honest judgment who I think should play

Q Fair enough. You'll get slaughtered if you don't win. But, just for record, I know we've been around the houses, but we were all looking at the team-sheet, it was a big game tonight and we were all wondering why you don't at least have the safety net of putting a proven Premier League goalscorer at least on the bench. Have you got a problem with Darren Bent?

PL None, honestly. Absolutely none

Q You just don't rate him as a player?

PL No, I do, I do. I've got 25 guys to look after. The most important thing is this club and I'll always make decisions that I think is right for this club. And I'll live and die by them. That's the nature of the beast.

Q How did Darren take it when you told him he was not on the bench?

PL I just read the team out. Listen, you've got more to worry about when you've got a game of football to play. And the lads that are going to take the field of play and the lads that are going to be on the bench, you've got to get them focused on the game. And that's all I try and do, pick a team that I think will win us the game

Q Did he stomp off?

PL Nah, nah. I would tell you. I swear to God I would tell you. Honestly.

Q How would you describe his attitude after you read the team out?

PL Fine. I read the team out and I've always done that. As I said, the most important thing is Aston Villa, that's the most important thing.

Q Have you told him what he's got to do to get back into the team?

PL Any player that you have, you work hard you get in the side you stay in the side. You play on merit.

Q Does that suggest he's not working hard enough then?

PL No, I never said that.

Q Well, he didn't stay in the side, did he?

PL No, but that's got nothing to do with not working hard enough. It's just that I've got to change things that I think will affect the game.

Q Will you listen to offers for him in January because, for whatever reason, he doesn't seem to fit the bill for you?

PL Honestly, my main concern is winning games for this club. We've got to win games. The crowd are brilliant, they're right behind you, and I'll still pick a team that I think will win us games.

Q Can I clarify, you've got no problem with his training or application, or anything like that?

PL No, none. Nothing whatsoever.

Q Do you expect him to get a chance before January to win back his place?

PL Everybody is the same. I watch them in training every day and I see how they play and how they train. And then on a Saturday, you pick a team that you think will win.

Q With Benteke scoring tonight, have you been proved right?

PL That's the game, you live and die by your decisions. As I said, I'll do my best for this club and I'll keep going.

Q Does he need an arm around his shoulder, is he miserable, is he down?

PL Who?

Q That record signing? Has there been any kind of conversation between the two of you about getting back in?

PL As I say, I'll talk with people.

Q There was an internet rumour beforehand that Darren left the stadium and had to be called back to join the group.

PL I haven't heard one thing. I haven't heard nothing. As I say, I've got to try and win a game.

Q Can you see him playing again under you?

PL Yeah, listen, I never rule anything out. You don't. I keep saying it, I'll pick a team and a squad that I think will win. I ain't going to pick a team and a squad that I think will lose. The game's about winning. I want to try and pick a team that I think will win. I've got 26 guys to look after, some are injured. If you make it just an individual thing, it's a team game. You need everybody to pull the same way and that's hopefully what we'll create here.

Q Can you understand why people are perplexed by this decision, given that this was a guy you made your captain as well?

PL Yeah, I understand your questions. But you get the questions every Friday, Friday, Friday. It's the same answers you'll probably get. I don't know what else you can write about it.

Q To be fair, to put it into some perspective, it was a big game today. I know you say you don't look at the table but 28,000 people that came tonight do. We do. And in London, in the newspaper offices, they're all looking at it and wondering why a man who was signed two years ago to provide the goals to keep the club in the Premier League doesn't figure under you, given the fact that you blew some smoke up his backside when he came, you made him your captain and now all of a sudden he's out. And I know you've got 20-odd professionals to look after but that's the reason for asking the question.

PL I understand where you are coming from. I totally respect your jobs and what you've got to ask me but you'll get the same kind of answer.

Q We're only asking what the punters are talking about.

PL Listen, I totally respect what you're doing and what your questions are. All I can do is give you an honest answer. If I was going to lie to you, honestly I would lie. I ain't lying. I'm telling you the truth.

Q If I could put it another way, it's hard to understand why a team that hasn't scored a lot of goals can't find a place for someone who throughout his career has scored one in two in the Premier League for years and years. And you can't find a place for him even on the bench. We're trying to see what the thought process is for you making that decision so that we can understand it.

PL I do pick a team as honestly and openly as I can. I think the decision is the right one. You can't please everybody all the time. You leave out people like Stephen Ireland or Charles N'Zogbia, big players that you leave out. It's never easy to pick a team because you've got that many lads to look after. I'll say it and I'll say it again, I've got 25/26 lads that I have to look after. But as I said before, I've never had one problem with any of the lads.

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:33 am
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
May well be bollocks, but it seems that after an initial down-payment of £18 million Villa may have to stump up another £5 million if Bent plays another 3 games.

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:41 am
by bobby brows
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:May well be bollocks, but it seems that after an initial down-payment of £18 million Villa may have to stump up another £5 million if Bent plays another 3 games.



they lose out on £70m if they are relegated this year! What kind of fee will they get if the buying club knows they won't play him again? Best to fork out the £5m and then add it to the transfer fee or just not sell him.

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:19 am
by Alioune DVToure
He has to have pissed him off. Villa are not in a position to freeze out a proven PL goal machine like Bent. They're also pushing down his transfer value, which is pretty stupid.

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:48 am
by Im_Spartacus
Good questioning from the journo(s). If it was just one, Jesus lambert did well to keep his calm to be fair to him

But it's pretty obvious he is on his way out now

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:37 am
by Beefymcfc
That interview is ridiculous. How the hell Lambert didn't tell them to fuck off, I'll never know.

'The journo's are saying, 'The media in London are asking', get the fuck out you slimey dogs, you're making a living off the back off somebody's hard work, just like a parasite waiting for it's next meal.

It's looks very simple to me, he's made just short of 50 appearances for Villa and they probably have to pay bonuses if he reaches the mark. He's probably also on a play/score bonus which Villa simply don't want to pay, or can't pay.

This, combined with their lack of transfer interest, shows that Villa have serious financial issues after the boss took a hit on the markets and it's strange to see how a club can go from one end of the table to another in such a short period.

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:32 am
by Mase
If I was a Villa fan I'd want to know why the best striker at the club can't even make the bench.

PL is paid to be asked those questions.

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:37 am
by Beefymcfc
Mase wrote:If I was a Villa fan I'd want to know why the best striker at the club can't even make the bench.

PL is paid to be asked those questions.

It's fair to answer questions but if that was aimed at Mancini I'd want to know what the agenda was. Remember, this was all about 'ifs and buts', Villa actually won the game.

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:22 pm
by Mase
Beefymcfc wrote:It's fair to answer questions but if that was aimed at Mancini I'd want to know what the agenda was. Remember, this was all about 'ifs and buts', Villa actually won the game.


If Jose was leaving Ronaldo out, if Rafa was leaving Hazard out, if Mancini was leaving Kolarov out, and if that no mark was leaving Messi out people would definitely want to know why.

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:56 pm
by Beefymcfc
Mase wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:It's fair to answer questions but if that was aimed at Mancini I'd want to know what the agenda was. Remember, this was all about 'ifs and buts', Villa actually won the game.


If Jose was leaving Ronaldo out, if Rafa was leaving Hazard out, if Mancini was leaving Kolarov out, and if that no mark was leaving Messi out people would definitely want to know why.

There he is, I thought you'd left the board or something mate ;-)

Now, that post. You have just placed Darren Bent with the creme de la creme of World football (not sure about Hazard mind) and now you expect me to take you seriously!

Pffffff!

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:59 pm
by Mase
Beefymcfc wrote:There he is, I thought you'd left the board or something mate ;-)

Now, that post. You have just placed Darren Bent with the creme de la creme of World football (not sure about Hazard mind) and now you expect me to take you seriously!

Pffffff!


You're finally admitting Kolarov is one of the best in the world?? I have converted one, 46,999 to go!

Re: Darren Bent

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:09 pm
by Beefymcfc
Mase wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:There he is, I thought you'd left the board or something mate ;-)

Now, that post. You have just placed Darren Bent with the creme de la creme of World football (not sure about Hazard mind) and now you expect me to take you seriously!

Pffffff!


You're finally admitting Kolarov is one of the best in the world?? I have converted one, 46,999 to go!

I always knew it.