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Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:00 am
by john@staustell
Anyone else see Shrek yesterday when a perfectly reasonable decision went against him? He screamed, directly at the ref (as usual) and in close up in front of millions of men, women and children on national TV:

"Fuckin' Prick'

Now I make no apology for printing the words here as it is apparently acceptable to the FA, the media and of course Taggart, busy diverting attention to softie Van Persie.

Back-track 2 weeks and Gareth Barry makes a one-off out-of-character comment to 4th official Mad Mark Clattenburg, because he was urging the ref to blow for a United victory. Private comment, 1 match ban.

What an absolute joke the authorities are.

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:37 am
by Scatman
Barry called the ref a cheat, which is a much worse insinuation, but I do think it's odd that nothing ever gets mentioned about Rooney

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:58 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
Scatman wrote:Barry called the ref a cheat, which is a much worse insinuation, but I do think it's odd that nothing ever gets mentioned about Rooney


Did he? I was under the impression that it was Clattenburg, the fourth official, he had some choice words for.

The old piss can could clearly be seen screaming 'fucking homer' at the ref, that's accusing him of cheating, is it not? Anything likely to be done about that?

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:36 am
by Blue Since 76
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Did he? I was under the impression that it was Clattenburg, the fourth official, he had some choice words for.

The old piss can could clearly be seen screaming 'fucking homer' at the ref, that's accusing him of cheating, is it not? Anything likely to be done about that?


Yes, the ref will now be barred from being the ref for a rag game until he learns his lesson.

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:46 am
by Douglas Higginbottom
I asked Ian Ladyman on Twitter to comment on why Rooney can swear aggressively and directly at the ref with impunity. Needless to say no reply.

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:50 am
by Scatman
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Scatman wrote:Barry called the ref a cheat, which is a much worse insinuation, but I do think it's odd that nothing ever gets mentioned about Rooney


Did he? I was under the impression that it was Clattenburg, the fourth official, he had some choice words for.

The old piss can could clearly be seen screaming 'fucking homer' at the ref, that's accusing him of cheating, is it not? Anything likely to be done about that?


He was calling him a queer

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:11 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
Scatman wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Scatman wrote:Barry called the ref a cheat, which is a much worse insinuation, but I do think it's odd that nothing ever gets mentioned about Rooney


Did he? I was under the impression that it was Clattenburg, the fourth official, he had some choice words for.

The old piss can could clearly be seen screaming 'fucking homer' at the ref, that's accusing him of cheating, is it not? Anything likely to be done about that?


He was calling him a queer


Who was calling who a queer?

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:24 am
by Chinners
I've stopped noticing when Shrek swears at officials, seen it so many times it's lostr its effect on me now

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:32 am
by Rag_hater
Chinners wrote:I've stopped noticing when Shrek swears at officials, seen it so many times it's lostr its effect on me now


Think a few of us feel like that,pretty standard run of the mill cussing in shreks case.The fucker should be bright to task for it nontheless IMO.
And what our Gareth said I think is a whloe new level.Shrek is not capable of reaching that standard.

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:22 am
by Cocacolajojo1
Rag_hater wrote:
Think a few of us feel like that,pretty standard run of the mill cussing in shreks case.The fucker should be bright to task for it nontheless IMO.
And what our Gareth said I think is a whloe new level.Shrek is not capable of reaching that standard.


I agree with that. It's a blessing for Rooney that he's incapable of abstract thoughts. He sticks to basic swearing and gets away with it.

I also think it's a matter of pride for the refs. As a referee you get taught to disregard most of the stuff and if they complain about basic swears to the fa, it might be the case that they are showing weakness.

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:36 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
Cocacolajojo wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Think a few of us feel like that,pretty standard run of the mill cussing in shreks case.The fucker should be bright to task for it nontheless IMO.
And what our Gareth said I think is a whloe new level.Shrek is not capable of reaching that standard.


I agree with that. It's a blessing for Rooney that he's incapable of abstract thoughts. He sticks to basic swearing and gets away with it.

I also think it's a matter of pride for the refs. As a referee you get taught to disregard most of the stuff and if they complain about basic swears to the fa, it might be the case that they are showing weakness.


They don't have to complain, all they need to do is apply the rules and book the cretin for his incessant foul language.

I got booked for my local team recently for saying 'ah, fuck off ref'. Amateur refs seemingly ubderstand the rules better than the pros.

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:47 am
by ayrshireblue
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Think a few of us feel like that,pretty standard run of the mill cussing in shreks case.The fucker should be bright to task for it nontheless IMO.
And what our Gareth said I think is a whloe new level.Shrek is not capable of reaching that standard.


I agree with that. It's a blessing for Rooney that he's incapable of abstract thoughts. He sticks to basic swearing and gets away with it.

I also think it's a matter of pride for the refs. As a referee you get taught to disregard most of the stuff and if they complain about basic swears to the fa, it might be the case that they are showing weakness.


They don't have to complain, all they need to do is apply the rules and book the cretin for his incessant foul language.

I got booked for my local team recently for saying 'ah, fuck off ref'. Amateur refs seemingly ubderstand the rules better than the pros.

The way I understand the essence of the law is that you are allowed to swear when speaking to the ref but not swear at him, i.e. foul language is ok on the park but not directed when directed at an official. "That's shit, ref" is allowed "Fuck off ref, thats not a foul" is not allowed.

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:08 pm
by Ted Hughes
ayrshireblue wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Think a few of us feel like that,pretty standard run of the mill cussing in shreks case.The fucker should be bright to task for it nontheless IMO.
And what our Gareth said I think is a whloe new level.Shrek is not capable of reaching that standard.


I agree with that. It's a blessing for Rooney that he's incapable of abstract thoughts. He sticks to basic swearing and gets away with it.

I also think it's a matter of pride for the refs. As a referee you get taught to disregard most of the stuff and if they complain about basic swears to the fa, it might be the case that they are showing weakness.


They don't have to complain, all they need to do is apply the rules and book the cretin for his incessant foul language.

I got booked for my local team recently for saying 'ah, fuck off ref'. Amateur refs seemingly ubderstand the rules better than the pros.

The way I understand the essence of the law is that you are allowed to swear when speaking to the ref but not swear at him, i.e. foul language is ok on the park but not directed when directed at an official. "That's shit, ref" is allowed "Fuck off ref, thats not a foul" is not allowed.


If they applied the rules to Rooney, he would never get through 90 mins, so they don't; it's that simple.

Noticed that ref booked Scholes for one of his usual fouls. Had that been in the first half, he would have let him off because he would know that Scholes would do it again later & he'd have to send him off & perhaps cost Ferguson the game. Last few mins; safe to book him.

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:24 pm
by Cocacolajojo1
ayrshireblue wrote:The way I understand the essence of the law is that you are allowed to swear when speaking to the ref but not swear at him, i.e. foul language is ok on the park but not directed when directed at an official. "That's shit, ref" is allowed "Fuck off ref, thats not a foul" is not allowed.


That makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up.

Re: Shrek - licence to swear at ref

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:06 pm
by Swales4ever
Ted Hughes wrote:
ayrshireblue wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Think a few of us feel like that,pretty standard run of the mill cussing in shreks case.The fucker should be bright to task for it nontheless IMO.
And what our Gareth said I think is a whloe new level.Shrek is not capable of reaching that standard.


I agree with that. It's a blessing for Rooney that he's incapable of abstract thoughts. He sticks to basic swearing and gets away with it.

I also think it's a matter of pride for the refs. As a referee you get taught to disregard most of the stuff and if they complain about basic swears to the fa, it might be the case that they are showing weakness.


They don't have to complain, all they need to do is apply the rules and book the cretin for his incessant foul language.

I got booked for my local team recently for saying 'ah, fuck off ref'. Amateur refs seemingly ubderstand the rules better than the pros.

The way I understand the essence of the law is that you are allowed to swear when speaking to the ref but not swear at him, i.e. foul language is ok on the park but not directed when directed at an official. "That's shit, ref" is allowed "Fuck off ref, thats not a foul" is not allowed.


If they applied the rules to Rooney, he would never get through 90 mins, so they don't; it's that simple.

Noticed that ref booked Scholes for one of his usual fouls. Had that been in the first half, he would have let him off because he would know that Scholes would do it again later & he'd have to send him off & perhaps cost Ferguson the game. Last few mins; safe to book him.

That's very true and..... very Italian (refereeing) style.

as per Shrek, think I may just echo my very same sentiments, as expressed on Vanpussy the thread.