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Whilst working overnight last night, I heard the back end of a report on a professional footballers survey contained in the 4.4.2. Magazine.
From the bits I heard, 100 pro players (10% Prem Players), were concerned about several things, and named drugs and match fixing as a concern.

DRUGS AND MATCH FIXING....seem to be a MASSIVE ISSUE to my innocent mind but I don't see anything on here, nor in the press. Plenty about handbags at Carrington but absolutely nowt at all on an issue that could AND SHOULD blow English football out of the water.

I started a new thread because, surely this has got to be the biggest issue since the Sheffield Wednesday match fixing in the 60s that saw the likes of Kay, Lane et al get life bans.

Can anyone fill in any of the blanks.?

Players tell FFT of drug-taking, match-fixing & racism
A major FourFourTwo survey reveals that half of professional footballers think players use drugs.
The Players' Poll, published in the new issue of FourFourTwo (out now), surveyed 100 professional footballers across all four English divisions and the SPL – and the results will raise eyebrows in the game.

Half of the anonymous interviewees said that footballers use recreational drugs, particularly cocaine. "There's a lot of cocaine about because it leaves the system quickly," says an SPL midfielder, while a League One midfielder agrees: "I've witnessed it between team-mates and players from other clubs. I can't believe it goes on but it definitely does."
Although cocaine is not defined as a performance-enhancing drug, a significant number of the poll respondents believe 'doping' does go on in football. The survey reveals that 13 percent of players believe performance enhancers are used, with a further 19 percent neither agreeing nor disagreeing.
"Why wouldn't it happen? What goes on in the wider world is reflected by what happens in sport," says a Premier League player. A top-flight striker also notes that "You do wonder – I've come up against a defender who wasn't the quickest one season and then like s**t off a shovel the next."
A staggering 14 percent of the players polled agreed that match-fixing is still an issue in football, with one League Two defender saying: "It goes on, I'm telling you. I've had players call me and tell me to bet on the outcome of a match, especially at the end of a season in League Two or the Conference. I've never been approached myself, but I know it goes on."
Another defender currently plying his trade in League Two claims he and his team-mates had been told to throw a match during a previous spell with a non-league side.

Meanwhile, over a quarter of players claimed to have witnessed a fellow professional being racist first-hand.
"It's still there. I've had a defender racially insult me throughout a game and I know black team-mates have suffered the same", one Championship striker explained, adding; "maybe it doesn't happen as regularly as it did, but it's still there - it has never gone away."
"When I first started playing, I knew of players who would use racist language to get the edge on an opponent" claimed an SPL striker, who said 'nothing was done' about the abuse.
A quarter of the players polled also agreed that a gay player would be an outcast, with two players 'strongly agreeing'. One SPL player said the game wasn't 'a tolerable environment' for a homosexual player, although another player from Scotland's top flight claimed that any footballer who did come out would 'make a f***ing fortune' as 'everyone would be all over him'.
The majority of players - 62 percent in all - disagreed with the statement, with one Championship and international striker saying "I think you'd actually have some banter; he wouldn't be treated any differently".

Funny enough, that article is in the same issue as Rio talking about not taking drugs ... yeah right

john68 wrote:Whilst working overnight last night, I heard the back end of a report on a professional footballers survey contained in the 4.4.2. Magazine.
From the bits I heard, 100 pro players (10% Prem Players), were concerned about several things, and named drugs and match fixing as a concern.

DRUGS AND MATCH FIXING....seem to be a MASSIVE ISSUE to my innocent mind but I don't see anything on here, nor in the press. Plenty about handbags at Carrington but absolutely nowt at all on an issue that could AND SHOULD blow English football out of the water.

I started a new thread because, surely this has got to be the biggest issue since the Sheffield Wednesday match fixing in the 60s that saw the likes of Kay, Lane et al get life bans.

Can anyone fill in any of the blanks.?

Amazing how one can post with ones head up anus ?

Cunt !

City64 wrote:Amazing how one can post with ones head up anus ?

Cunt !

Quite a strange statement. Reasoning please?

Beefymcfc wrote:

City64 wrote:Amazing how one can post with ones head up anus ?

Cunt !

Quite a strange statement. Reasoning please?

This page might throw some light on it.

viewtopic.php?f=119&t=44903&p=494956#p494956

Chinners wrote:Players tell FFT of drug-taking, match-fixing & racism
Half of the anonymous interviewees said that footballers use recreational drugs, particularly cocaine. "There's a lot of cocaine about because it leaves the system quickly," says an SPL midfielder, while a League One midfielder agrees: "I've witnessed it between team-mates and players from other clubs. I can't believe it goes on but it definitely does."
Although cocaine is not defined as a performance-enhancing drug, a significant number of the poll respondents believe 'doping' does go on in football. The survey reveals that 13 percent of players believe performance enhancers are used, with a further 19 percent neither agreeing nor disagreeing.
"Why wouldn't it happen? What goes on in the wider world is reflected by what happens in sport," says a Premier League player. A top-flight striker also notes that "You do wonder – I've come up against a defender who wasn't the quickest one season and then like s**t off a shovel the next."

I've always wondered about this part. How often do players have to do doping tests? What types of controls are there outside of international football?

City64 wrote:

john68 wrote:Whilst working overnight last night, I heard the back end of a report on a professional footballers survey contained in the 4.4.2. Magazine.
From the bits I heard, 100 pro players (10% Prem Players), were concerned about several things, and named drugs and match fixing as a concern.

DRUGS AND MATCH FIXING....seem to be a MASSIVE ISSUE to my innocent mind but I don't see anything on here, nor in the press. Plenty about handbags at Carrington but absolutely nowt at all on an issue that could AND SHOULD blow English football out of the water.

I started a new thread because, surely this has got to be the biggest issue since the Sheffield Wednesday match fixing in the 60s that saw the likes of Kay, Lane et al get life bans.

Can anyone fill in any of the blanks.?

Amazing how one can post with ones head up anus ?

Cunt !

hahaha feel better?

City64 wrote:

john68 wrote:Whilst working overnight last night, I heard the back end of a report on a professional footballers survey contained in the 4.4.2. Magazine.
From the bits I heard, 100 pro players (10% Prem Players), were concerned about several things, and named drugs and match fixing as a concern.

DRUGS AND MATCH FIXING....seem to be a MASSIVE ISSUE to my innocent mind but I don't see anything on here, nor in the press. Plenty about handbags at Carrington but absolutely nowt at all on an issue that could AND SHOULD blow English football out of the water.

I started a new thread because, surely this has got to be the biggest issue since the Sheffield Wednesday match fixing in the 60s that saw the likes of Kay, Lane et al get life bans.

Can anyone fill in any of the blanks.?

Amazing how one can post with ones head up anus ?

Cunt !

Go have a cry in the corner and come back when you're done.

As for the match fixing, it's a very good question that I doubt will ever be answered without recorded evidence. If the FA is unable/unwilling to confront bad officiating because of a fear of calling the game into question.... theres no chance in hell that the possibility of match fixing would ever be entertained. Unfortunately, this will all be swept under the rug because the FA, clubs, and media are all on the gravy train and would never do anything to derail it. Just look at what has happened in Italy as an example.

If the FA/clubs were smart however, they would act proactively and have an inquiry/investigation/open hearings to rid the problem asap. But that would take courage, foresight, and leadership.... so not going to happen.

bigblue wrote:

City64 wrote:

john68 wrote:Whilst working overnight last night, I heard the back end of a report on a professional footballers survey contained in the 4.4.2. Magazine.
From the bits I heard, 100 pro players (10% Prem Players), were concerned about several things, and named drugs and match fixing as a concern.

DRUGS AND MATCH FIXING....seem to be a MASSIVE ISSUE to my innocent mind but I don't see anything on here, nor in the press. Plenty about handbags at Carrington but absolutely nowt at all on an issue that could AND SHOULD blow English football out of the water.

I started a new thread because, surely this has got to be the biggest issue since the Sheffield Wednesday match fixing in the 60s that saw the likes of Kay, Lane et al get life bans.

Can anyone fill in any of the blanks.?

Amazing how one can post with ones head up anus ?

Cunt !

Go have a cry in the corner and come back when you're done.

As for the match fixing, it's a very good question that I doubt will ever be answered without recorded evidence. If the FA is unable/unwilling to confront bad officiating because of a fear of calling the game into question.... theres no chance in hell that the possibility of match fixing would ever be entertained. Unfortunately, this will all be swept under the rug because the FA, clubs, and media are all on the gravy train and would never do anything to derail it. Just look at what has happened in Italy as an example.

If the FA/clubs were smart however, they would act proactively and have an inquiry/investigation/open hearings to rid the problem asap. But that would take courage, foresight, and leadership.... so not going to happen.

Cry ?

Shuks another helmet has surfaced .

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:

Beefymcfc wrote:

City64 wrote:Amazing how one can post with ones head up anus ?

Cunt !

Quite a strange statement. Reasoning please?

This page might throw some light on it.

viewtopic.php?f=119&t=44903&p=494956#p494956

I get it now. What the fuck would John know about Taxiing anyway ;-)

City64, You raised the issue about taxi fares and accents, I merely asked for you to use your expertise and clarify an issue for practical purposes.
You are right about me being a cunt but for the wrong reasons.

Not sure if it is protocol to add a smiley here.

Anyway, back on topic, do you by any chance; take recreational drugs, fix games, are you gay or racist?
Are you, or were you ever,a professional footballer?

jus asking

john68 wrote:City64, You raised the issue about taxi fares and accents, I merely asked for you to use your expertise and clarify an issue for practical purposes.
You are right about me being a cunt but for the wrong reasons.

Not sure if it is protocol to add a smiley here.

Anyway, back on topic, do you by any chance; take recreational drugs, fix games, are you gay or racist?
Are you, or were you ever,a professional footballer?

jus asking

Not really any of your buisness tbh but i will answer the last Q

I almost made it to pro level just like thousands upon thousands of others ! Lucky for me i had a professional career elsewhere i guess.

City64 wrote:

john68 wrote:City64, You raised the issue about taxi fares and accents, I merely asked for you to use your expertise and clarify an issue for practical purposes.
You are right about me being a cunt but for the wrong reasons.

Not sure if it is protocol to add a smiley here.

Anyway, back on topic, do you by any chance; take recreational drugs, fix games, are you gay or racist?
Are you, or were you ever,a professional footballer?

jus asking

Not really any of your buisness tbh but i will answer the last Q

I almost made it to pro level just like thousands upon thousands of others ! Lucky for me i had a professional career elsewhere i guess.

So that's a 'no' then.

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:

City64 wrote:

john68 wrote:City64, You raised the issue about taxi fares and accents, I merely asked for you to use your expertise and clarify an issue for practical purposes.
You are right about me being a cunt but for the wrong reasons.

Not sure if it is protocol to add a smiley here.

Anyway, back on topic, do you by any chance; take recreational drugs, fix games, are you gay or racist?
Are you, or were you ever,a professional footballer?

jus asking

Not really any of your buisness tbh but i will answer the last Q

I almost made it to pro level just like thousands upon thousands of others ! Lucky for me i had a professional career elsewhere i guess.

So that's a 'no' then.

He thinks he is a smart cookie , let him work it out mate ;)

City64 wrote:

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:

City64 wrote:

john68 wrote:City64, You raised the issue about taxi fares and accents, I merely asked for you to use your expertise and clarify an issue for practical purposes.
You are right about me being a cunt but for the wrong reasons.

Not sure if it is protocol to add a smiley here.

Anyway, back on topic, do you by any chance; take recreational drugs, fix games, are you gay or racist?
Are you, or were you ever,a professional footballer?

jus asking

Not really any of your buisness tbh but i will answer the last Q

I almost made it to pro level just like thousands upon thousands of others ! Lucky for me i had a professional career elsewhere i guess.

So that's a 'no' then.

He thinks he is a smart cookie , let him work it out mate ;)

To be fair to John.
He is a smart cookie.
Knows fuck all about football mind.

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:

City64 wrote:

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:

City64 wrote:

john68 wrote:City64, You raised the issue about taxi fares and accents, I merely asked for you to use your expertise and clarify an issue for practical purposes.
You are right about me being a cunt but for the wrong reasons.

Not sure if it is protocol to add a smiley here.

Anyway, back on topic, do you by any chance; take recreational drugs, fix games, are you gay or racist?
Are you, or were you ever,a professional footballer?

jus asking

Not really any of your buisness tbh but i will answer the last Q

I almost made it to pro level just like thousands upon thousands of others ! Lucky for me i had a professional career elsewhere i guess.

So that's a 'no' then.

He thinks he is a smart cookie , let him work it out mate ;)

To be fair to John.
He is a smart cookie.
Knows fuck all about football mind.

Well, you are the expert on knowing fuck all about things.

City 64,
D'yer know, I really don't give a fucl about the answers Mate. I was just acting according to the type you attributed to me and beinga cunt...:-)....:-( (deletse as necessary.

Piccs is right but at least they trust me to know where I am going and give me a steering wheel...they don't have to spendmiullions on a national department to steer me about and then tell me where I am...pooor...poooor Roger Dodger.