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Here are the gruesome images of Kompany viciously puuting his foot (not feet) to the ball. That ball was in danger of being hurt, killed even. These one-footed, perfectly timed and fair tackles need outlawing. The game is suffering because of it. You have to feel for the ball.

He has surely got to get off.

He wont though.

Edited for accuracy. Lol. Clearly, Wilshere has one leg higher than Vinnie. I have sent it to the club. Obviously they will have their own pictures, but these are utterly conclusive, there can be no question.

s1ty m wrote:Edited for accuracy. Lol. Clearly, Wilshere has one leg higher than Vinnie. I have sent it to the club. Obviously they will have their own pictures, but these are utterly conclusive, there can be no question.

At one point he had both feet off the ground.

Even though you can clearly see that, at the time he made the challenge, he didn't have both feet off the ground, just went for the ball in a perfectly fair, normal, legal, manner & won it as cleanly as anyone in the history of football has ever won a ball, then was clattered into late by Wilshire who was nowhere even close to the ball, IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

The reason it doesn't fucking matter is that we have a bunch of clueless robots refereeing football & a bunch of clueless fans & media helping them to incorrectly interpret the rules. You've got fucking morons like Graeme Poll, who will look at that incident frpm all angles & say "it doesn't matter, his feet were off the ground" because; he is a fucking moron. People like him are responsible for this kind of shit. They got it wrong in the first place & then it became the norm. In his column today, he is comparing it to the kind of two footed stamp we saw from Gerrard in the past. That's how fucking clueless the bloke is. He can't see a difference: robot.

These wankers are incabable of interpreting the rules they are paid to interpret & then their opinions are repeated parrot fashion by other fucking simpletons who follow what these turds say rather than actually reading the rules & making an effort to interpret them correctly.

Because, at one point, VK had his feet off the ground, he's fucked, even though, at the point the challenge was made, he was under control, had only one foot off the ground & won the ball perfectly. They don't know how to interpret that & have no interest in fair play, just rules, so he's fucked.

I wonder if it hadn't been on Jack Wilshire or if had been by Wilshire on company would it have been a red?

that's all well and good, ted (and i agree with all of it), but vinny should know by now that he's just inviting these cunts to show red when he slides in like that.

Sideshow Bob wrote:that's all well and good, ted (and i agree with all of it), but vinny should know by now that he's just inviting these cunts to show red when he slides in like that.

His strong, well timed and clean tackling is part of his style and part of why he is the best defender in the league. If he compromises his style, he compromises his performance. Fuck that,..Komp's tackling should be used as promotion material for how it's supposed to be done.

btw... I think every time two players jump to challenge a header, they should both be sent off as they have two feet off the ground.

Sideshow Bob wrote:that's all well and good, ted (and i agree with all of it), but vinny should know by now that he's just inviting these cunts to show red when he slides in like that.

from that angle of the picture it's clearly Wilshire who is doing the more dangerous footballing imho. His late arrival causes Vinnie to pull his other leg up and brace for the crunch. Any moron can see that yet will they rule in that fashion? No fucking chance.

cheers

DoomMerchant wrote:

Sideshow Bob wrote:that's all well and good, ted (and i agree with all of it), but vinny should know by now that he's just inviting these cunts to show red when he slides in like that.

from that angle of the picture it's clearly Wilshire who is doing the more dangerous footballing imho. His late arrival causes Vinnie to pull his other leg up and brace for the crunch. Any moron can see that yet will they rule in that fashion? No fucking chance.

cheers

Absolutely no doubt about it, he will not win an appeal. I fully agree with Ted too , they are idiots running the game and Graham Poll, well, he's a fucking arsehole. As the song goes.

Whoever was watching the Andy Townsend/Alan Curbishley/Dermot Gallagher panel after the game yesterday will surely agree that they gave a really good analysis of the incident.

I still understand why Dean gave it. As Gallagher said, he saw Vinnie's two feet off the ground, then García crossed his eyeline, and then Wilshere was in a heap - and all this unfolded in less than a second.

For me it's just one of those unfortunate incidents that will be difficult to reverse because - crucially - one interpretation of the letter of the law makes it a valid red. Even if Dean sees the replay footage and now thinks it wasn't a red for various reasons (Vinny in control, not a running lunge, foot below the ball at moment of impact, Wilshere losing his feet before impact - as is shown in that excellent still at the head of this thread), his original decision is still technically valid and, in any case, he's not consulted by the panel.

It's also unfortunate because I thought Mike Dean was otherwise outstanding again yesterday and should really be recognised as the league's best ref.

Luckily we won't lose VK for any of the big games (although I suppose we could really use him at Stoke in the cup). The biggest problem is that our two remaining decent centre-backs are both left-footed, and one is maybe still a bit too green to be playing without his skipper alongside him.

Alioune DVToure wrote:Whoever was watching the Andy Townsend/Alan Curbishley/Dermot Gallagher panel after the game yesterday will surely agree that they gave a really good analysis of the incident.

I still understand why Dean gave it. As Gallagher said, he saw Vinnie's two feet off the ground, then García crossed his eyeline, and then Wilshere was in a heap - and all this unfolded in less than a second.

For me it's just one of those unfortunate incidents that will be difficult to reverse because - crucially - one interpretation of the letter of the law makes it a valid red. Even if Dean sees the replay footage and now thinks it wasn't a red for various reasons (Vinny in control, not a running lunge, foot below the ball at moment of impact, Wilshere losing his feet before impact - as is shown in that excellent still at the head of this thread), his original decision is still technically valid and, in any case, he's not consulted by the panel.

It's also unfortunate because I thought Mike Dean was otherwise outstanding again yesterday and should really be recognised as the league's best ref.

Luckily we won't lose VK for any of the big games (although I suppose we could really use him at Stoke in the cup). The biggest problem is that our two remaining decent centre-backs are both left-footed, and one is maybe still a bit too green to be playing without his skipper alongside him.

I agree. Mike Dean has been the best ref & will not let Vinny off, because wankers like Graeme Poll have set the precedent for this kind of challenge. They chose to interpret such things in black & white, so all refs who follow have to do the same.

DoomMerchant wrote:
from that angle of the picture it's clearly Wilshire who is doing the more dangerous footballing imho. His late arrival causes Vinnie to pull his other leg up and brace for the crunch. Any moron can see that yet will they rule in that fashion? No fucking chance.

cheers

It was clear that Wilshire thought he was the one getting done by Dean.
Even Kompany got up telling Dean that it was Wilshire in the wrong.

A Liverpool fan in work has agreed that he thought Wilshite was the one who committed the foul after over running the ball.

Daily Mail reporting that the FA are not even going to bother to look at it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262044/Vincent-Kompany-unsuccessful-appeal-red-card.html

Bluez wrote:Daily Mail reporting that the FA are not even going to bother to look at it

[url="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262044/Vincent-Kompany-unsuccessful-appeal-red-card.html"]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262044/Vincent-Kompany-unsuccessful-appeal-red-card.html[/url]

I'm still waiting for Steffan Effenberg to be officially unveiled at City after the Daily Fail stated we had signed him years ago...

How sad are rags, they talk about city more than us. My rag mates keep going on about it being a two footage challenge and justice for Norwich. Obsessed.

As I said to my mate on FB: He should've learned his lesson after the joke red against United. Even ten years ago you'd prob get away with that, but two feet off the floor is deemed reckless these days. Soon as he did it I knew he was off (and that it was a good tackle in my book). Vinnie should be intelligent enough to learn this. He took a risk against Norwich too, that had me brickin, but we got away with that (and scored). There is no way an appeal would be frivolous though, as apparently Mike Dean said it was for two feet which is wrong. We'll see...

s1ty m wrote:Here are the gruesome images of Kompany viciously puuting his foot (not feet) to the ball. That ball was in danger of being hurt, killed even. These one-footed, perfectly timed and fair tackles need outlawing. The game is suffering because of it. You have to feel for the ball.

Looking at those pics it was an even better tackle than I thought. There is nothing at all wrong with it...

I think he'll get off. Can anyone remember any decision taken by the authorities concerning our club that has been taken in anything other than a fair and transparent manner. I have total faith in the inherent fairness of the FA. Any suggestion that they would allow themselves to be swayed by a wish to defend a useless bent referee is totally unfair. How can anyone believe that?

Sideshow Bob wrote:that's all well and good, ted (and i agree with all of it), but vinny should know by now that he's just inviting these cunts to show red when he slides in like that.

Genuine question sideshow and i don't mean to be rude but, have you played football? There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vinnies tackle. It is a well timed tackle that saw him win the ball before the opponent got anywhere near it or him.

In fact my first reaction as i am sure jack Wilshere thought,was that the Arsenal player was getting carded for his clumsiness. and the way he went in. It was simply a diabolical decision. This is another ref who plays to tge gallery and he could and should have booked podolski for his many Elbows and face slaps and could easily and justifiably given. Wilshere a yellow card on several occasions in the second half

zuricity wrote:

Sideshow Bob wrote:that's all well and good, ted (and i agree with all of it), but vinny should know by now that he's just inviting these cunts to show red when he slides in like that.

Genuine question sideshow and i don't mean to be rude but, have you played football? There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vinnies tackle. It us a well timed tackle that saw him win the ball before the opponent got anywhere near it or him.

In fact my first reaction as i am sure jack Wilshere's thought,was that the Arsenal player was getting carded for his clumsiness. and the way he went in. It was simply a diabolical decision. This is another ref who plays to tge gallery and he could and should have booked podolski for his many Elbows and face slaps and could easily and justifiably given. Wilshere a yellow card on several occasions in the second half

i said i agree the tackle was clean...but that's not the point. the point is that anything resembling a 2-footed lunge gives the ref an opportunity to show red, especially when it's vinnie and even more so when ref is under pressure from gooner halfwits to even things up...