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OK on the basis that I work for them I figure I should start this....

Very interesting progression from City last year...most interesting part is just where we could have been had we had a decent Champions League run with the commensurate increase in broadcast revenue that would have brought

The graphic below will zoom in size if you hit the following link but some of this shows exactly why we should be expanding the stadium asap. Incredibly enough, despite the significant extra capacity that United and Arsenal have over City we generated more matchday revenue than Arsenal and only Euro 20 million less than United. Chelsea, however, generated Euro 10 million more than even United did.

When you factor in the premium that Arsenal and Chelsea can command by virtue of being in London and so having access to an entirely different and more lucrative corporate market and the premium United can charge by being United and balance that against the fact that ticket prices at City are still (relatively I admit) reasonable I think that is an incredible result.

Our commercial revenues are right up there with the top tier of Madrid/Barcelona/United and are almost double those of Arsenal, Euro 50 million more than Chelsea, Euro 40 million more than Liverpool. Again brilliant.

Honestly if we had broadcasting revenues in line with Chelsea/Arsenal....we would have been the second placed English team and up there in the top 5.

Pretty bloody impressive stuff.


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I don't understand how the matchday stuff can be higher than Arsenal, & the broadcast so much lower.

They charge £12 for a Bovril (possible exaggeration) & the ground holds more people.

We were on tv every week.

Seems a bit odd to me.

Wait til the future sponsorship deals kick in. I recon there will be some huge stuff which will send them all crying to Platini.

Ted Hughes wrote:I don't understand how the matchday stuff can be higher than Arsenal, & the broadcast so much lower.

They charge £12 for a Bovril (possible exaggeration) & the ground holds more people.

We were on tv every week.

Seems a bit odd to me.

Wait til the future sponsorship deals kick in. I recon there will be some huge stuff which will send them all crying to Platini.

I think that could be a mistake - they say in the report that 4 clubs earned over 100m Euros in matchday revenue yet, they clearly show more clubs than that. I think they've mixed up the colours for Matchday and Broadcast revenue, as on last year's report our Matchday revenue was considerably lower than other leading clubs.

aaron bond wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:I don't understand how the matchday stuff can be higher than Arsenal, & the broadcast so much lower.

They charge £12 for a Bovril (possible exaggeration) & the ground holds more people.

We were on tv every week.

Seems a bit odd to me.

Wait til the future sponsorship deals kick in. I recon there will be some huge stuff which will send them all crying to Platini.

I think that could be a mistake - they say in the report that 4 clubs earned over 100m Euros in matchday revenue yet, they clearly show more clubs than that. I think they've mixed up the colours for Matchday and Broadcast revenue, as on last year's report our Matchday revenue was considerably lower than other leading clubs.

That sounds about right. Unless we've been charging £1,000,000 each for a seat in those weird Harvey Nicks boxes etc.

The full report can be downloaded here: http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/i ... /index.htm

On this version of the report, they have corrected the Matchday and Broadcasting error.

Cheers Ant will have a proper look at that report at some stage during the day.

Strange that the most famous club in the world have a considerably lower revenue than Barcelona and Madrid, are you sure these are the correct figures?

aaron bond wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:I don't understand how the matchday stuff can be higher than Arsenal, & the broadcast so much lower.

They charge £12 for a Bovril (possible exaggeration) & the ground holds more people.

We were on tv every week.

Seems a bit odd to me.

Wait til the future sponsorship deals kick in. I recon there will be some huge stuff which will send them all crying to Platini.

I think that could be a mistake - they say in the report that 4 clubs earned over 100m Euros in matchday revenue yet, they clearly show more clubs than that. I think they've mixed up the colours for Matchday and Broadcast revenue, as on last year's report our Matchday revenue was considerably lower than other leading clubs.

I think that could be a mistake as well...in fact I know it is as my lads have been selling bovril down there for £11.50

Bianchi on Ice wrote:

aaron bond wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:I don't understand how the matchday stuff can be higher than Arsenal, & the broadcast so much lower.

They charge £12 for a Bovril (possible exaggeration) & the ground holds more people.

We were on tv every week.

Seems a bit odd to me.

Wait til the future sponsorship deals kick in. I recon there will be some huge stuff which will send them all crying to Platini.

I think that could be a mistake - they say in the report that 4 clubs earned over 100m Euros in matchday revenue yet, they clearly show more clubs than that. I think they've mixed up the colours for Matchday and Broadcast revenue, as on last year's report our Matchday revenue was considerably lower than other leading clubs.

I think that could be a mistake as well...in fact I know it is as my lads have been selling bovril down there for £11.50

Your lads are obviously in the membership scheme, hence the variance of selling Bovil for different amounts in the same stand.

I kept telling people our incomes will rise, and by 2020 the Sheik will be in pocket, but nobody listened - other clubs fans that is.

Very good results for us, and shows that even with the £35m per year from Etihad we are overall making great strides in commerical and revenue areas.

Clearly the original matchday figures were incorrect. They are now corrected in the main report and City have £38.1m Euros in Matchday income, compared to 117.7m Euros of Arsenal.

As for the new stadium argument, in the family stand in particular there are often some empty seats, should we not be getting these filled first before building a bigger stadium? Also is it realistic that as a club City can get 60,000 every or most weeks?

One reason for United being lower than Real Madrid and Barcelona is that the Spanish negotiate their own tv deals rather than as a league.

Mark Garrett wrote:Very good results for us, and shows that even with the £35m per year from Etihad we are overall making great strides in commerical and revenue areas.

Clearly the original matchday figures were incorrect. They are now corrected in the main report and City have £38.1m Euros in Matchday income, compared to 117.7m Euros of Arsenal.

As for the new stadium argument, in the family stand in particular there are often some empty seats, should we not be getting these filled first before building a bigger stadium? Also is it realistic that as a club City can get 60,000 every or most weeks?

One reason for United being lower than Real Madrid and Barcelona is that the Spanish negotiate their own tv deals rather than as a league.

That will be the long term aim of the cartel involved with Utd Liverpool Arsenal.

Ted,
It was already mentioned by (I think the rags) some time ago, alongside the moan about how unfair it was for the flagship club of the Premier league trying to compete with Madrid and Barca.
The other Prem clubs didn't seem too keen on allowing it....No idea why?

Mark Garrett wrote:
As for the new stadium argument, in the family stand in particular there are often some empty seats, should we not be getting these filled first before building a bigger stadium? Also is it realistic that as a club City can get 60,000 every or most weeks?

.

Every league game has been a sell out. However there are lots of empty seats. Think the club needs to allow all members to sell seats rather than having to upgrade to do it.

I've got a child ticket which obviously isn't used for night games but it'd be £50 to upgrade to get max of £5 a game back.

Are UEFA still looking at our sponsorship deal with Etihad?
Can anyone shed any light on this and what the possible/realistic outcomes could be?

Risby wrote:Are UEFA still looking at our sponsorship deal with Etihad?
Can anyone shed any light on this and what the possible/realistic outcomes could be?

I believe the first UEFA FFP period is 2011-12 season and 2012-13 season, so basically at the end of this season and early next season when the accounts are in, UEFA will begin looking into them including the Etihad deal. I have to say that it will be waved through though as it is quite exceptional in that it has 3 elements - shirt sponsorship, stadium sponsorship and a vast training ground/community development sponsorship.

Risby wrote:Are UEFA still looking at our sponsorship deal with Etihad?
Can anyone shed any light on this and what the possible/realistic outcomes could be?

It's not a 'related party' deal so they can't say anything.