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Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:03 pmby Alioune DVToure
Am I alone in getting annoyed at this when Mancini does it?
These are the only 'proper' trophies, in descending order of importance:
Premier League/Champions League
FA Cup
League Cup
The Charity Shield and World Club Championship (which Rafa has under Inter on his CV) mean jack shit.
For me, the most annoying moment of Mancini's tenure so far was the way he gifted that LC to Liverpool last year. How sweet would a league/league cup double have been?
I really like Mancini but he needs to stop waffling on about the Charity Shield when defending his 'three-trophy' record.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:06 pmby Scatman
Everybody knows the charity shield is THE trophy. The FA Cup final and the entire league season are the semi finals. You can't win the charity shield without a glorious performance in one of the other tournaments, so it's the league/FA Cup +1 for me.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:22 pmby LookMumImOnMCF.net
Especially when it's called the Community Shield. Italian nonce.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:34 pmby Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Yes, it's utter bollocks.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:48 pmby BlueinBosnia
Scatman wrote:You can't win the charity shield without a glorious performance in one of the other tournaments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_FA_Charity_Shield
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:49 pmby Elvistheblue
When you haven't won a trophy for 35 years, a trophy is a trophy. Just because we have won a couple or three now doesn't mean we should become trophy snobs.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:55 pmby BlueinBosnia
Elvistheblue wrote:When you haven't won a trophy for 35 years, a trophy is a trophy. Just because we have won a couple or three now doesn't mean we should become trophy snobs.
What do you mean, 35 years? We won the Thomas Cook Trophy in 2004 ;)
Also, European Super Cup is a no-trophy. UEFA are now pimping out the competition to be hosted in countries that have no stadia that fill the criteria required to host a Champs' or Europa League final.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 pmby Moonchesteri
No you ain't alone. I've ALWAYS felt it's just a friendly tbh.. and the big trophy presentations & celebrations are a joke imo. fine, give the trophy to the winning captain but no need to make a fuss about it in this case.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:00 pmby john@staustell
I used to include it in 1970. But it meant more then of course. However I waited so bloody long I'm damn-well going to include it now as well. Still call it the Charity Shield though!
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:01 pmby BlueinBosnia
Moonchesteri wrote:and the big trophy presentations & celebrations are a joke imo.
They've been scaled down considerably since the first incarnation of the Charity Shield:
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:05 pmby Scatman
Now that's what I call Ruining Football
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:10 pmby Alioune DVToure
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Especially when it's called the Community Shield. Italian nonce.
He probably calls is the Community Shield. I just forget to. Premiership/Premier League/Tomato/Tomato. Oogivzafuk?
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:11 pmby Alioune DVToure
Elvistheblue wrote:When you haven't won a trophy for 35 years, a trophy is a trophy. Just because we have won a couple or three now doesn't mean we should become trophy snobs.
What are you on about?
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:29 pmby ruralblue
What ever people think it's worth, am glad we won it and it keeps a shelf looking good :-)
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:38 pmby Elvistheblue
Alioune DVToure wrote:Elvistheblue wrote:When you haven't won a trophy for 35 years, a trophy is a trophy. Just because we have won a couple or three now doesn't mean we should become trophy snobs.
What are you on about?
I just don't think we should be dismissing trophies when we hadn't' won any for so long. It was more of a tongue in cheek statement, but maybe didn't come across like that.
When you win it, it counts as a trophy, but when you lose, it's a friendly.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:45 pmby Chinners
Scatman wrote:Everybody knows the charity shield is THE trophy. The FA Cup final and the entire league season are the semi finals. You can't win the charity shield without a glorious performance in one of the other tournaments, so it's the league/FA Cup +1 for me.
althou funny enough the last time we won the Charity shield we did not win either as we were invited as a guest!
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:49 pmby Beefymcfc
I see it as a minor trophy but a trophy all the same. If I was asked how many trophies I had won, like Mancini, I would say 3 without a blink of an eye.
If you don't class it as an achievement, the Premier League Champions beating the European Champions, then so be it.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:52 pmby Beefymcfc
Chinners wrote:Scatman wrote:Everybody knows the charity shield is THE trophy. The FA Cup final and the entire league season are the semi finals. You can't win the charity shield without a glorious performance in one of the other tournaments, so it's the league/FA Cup +1 for me.
althou funny enough the last time we won the Charity shield we did not win either as we were invited as a guest!
By the looks of things, every tournament is now
'by invite' only. We are now guests in every comp we play, they can kick us out whenever they want.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:53 pmby CTID Hants
It's one of those "if we won it, therefore it counts" and that applies to ALL fans whether they be ours, rags, chelski or whatever.
Cast your mind back to the season before last when we lost it to the rags, were you pissed off that we lost it (ignoring who we played)??
Oh and for the record, if you look up us or any other team in Wiki, they list them, therefore it must count ;-)
The way I look at it, the Charity Shield gets the attention of pretty much all fans who enjoy football to celebrate the beginning of a new season whilst celebrating the success of the two teams from the season before.
I am pleased we have figured in it for the last two seasons and many more to come hopefully.
Re: Claiming the Charity Shield as a proper trophy
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:04 pmby aaron bond
CTID Hants wrote:It's one of those "if we won it, therefore it counts" and that applies to ALL fans whether they be ours, rags, chelski or whatever.
Cast your mind back to the season before last when we lost it to the rags, were you pissed off that we lost it (ignoring who we played)??
Oh and for the record, if you look up us or any other team in Wiki, they list them, therefore it must count ;-)
The way I look at it, the Charity Shield gets the attention of pretty much all fans who enjoy football to celebrate the beginning of a new season whilst celebrating the success of the two teams from the season before.
I am pleased we have figured in it for the last two seasons and many more to come hopefully.
Good post. I agree with that.
It didn't matter to me last year, but this year it did!
And as you said, it's the beginning of the new season, with a fixture containing 2 of the best sides from the previous season so generally should be something to look forward to.