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After several diabolical performances from refs and linesman at several matches this weekend we might aswell discuss how bad they really are this season.

And can we have a poll ? Would be interesting !

I think they've been perfect.

Same as ever.
People have their knickers in a twist about it this year because fuck knows but nothing has changed.
Same ol bollocks as before just cameras have got better

Rag_hater wrote:Same as ever.
People have their knickers in a twist about it this year because fuck knows but nothing has changed.
Same ol bollocks as before just cameras have got better

The camera's have got better, they've got HD now.

Beefymcfc wrote:

Rag_hater wrote:Same as ever.
People have their knickers in a twist about it this year because fuck knows but nothing has changed.
Same ol bollocks as before just cameras have got better

The camera's have got better, they've got HD now.

But the referees have got dramatically worse.

gillie wrote:

Beefymcfc wrote:

Rag_hater wrote:Same as ever.
People have their knickers in a twist about it this year because fuck knows but nothing has changed.
Same ol bollocks as before just cameras have got better

The camera's have got better, they've got HD now.

But the referees have got dramatically worse.

it's been a bad performance by fans too this year

Alex Sapphire wrote:

gillie wrote:

Beefymcfc wrote:

Rag_hater wrote:Same as ever.
People have their knickers in a twist about it this year because fuck knows but nothing has changed.
Same ol bollocks as before just cameras have got better

The camera's have got better, they've got HD now.

But the referees have got dramatically worse.

it's been a bad performance by fans too this year

It's all the fans fault. Can't believe that we fucked up an honest decision.

PS. Was it a penalty?

Would the OP care to mention a year when the refs got it right more than this season? It certainly wasn't last season, nor the season before that, nor the one before that....

I will say that level off refs mistake i see in Premier League almost match Bosnian League . Mistake on game Cheski Rags by Twatenburg can't see even here and that is one of the games that broke Cheski and give wings to Rags.U have few refs sindrom of i wanna be star of this game ,and few well they almost 30 40 % of games decide them self. Ok i get the human factor but what bugs me is not clear rules of peno , mistake on offside and ball over line or not . More refs can't help we saw that in Europa league but sensor could and i don't see why we can't use technology we have to make game fair.All of those who say we don't need that play on hands of the big clubs.And by big i mean poster clubs by UEFA . I would put sensors on line of goal sensors on Offside i m sure we have tech for that and yes ref can take small phone or something some device to look replay when is huge like that peno for us or that red card for Wigan player, that was tackle for jail and he did not get yellow .

but the premier league is the best league in the world.

I met with Man City last week and brought up the issue of Ref's. If a player or manager is deemed to do something wrong in a game a press release is made by the FA detailing the offence and the punishment, if a ref has a questionable game we get no feedback what so ever from the FA. Everyone in the room agreed we should get to see a summary of the report and score given by the monitor to show the FA is not tolerating such poor decisions

You 'met with Man City' last week? Blimey.

dazby wrote:Would the OP care to mention a year when the refs got it right more than this season? It certainly wasn't last season, nor the season before that, nor the one before that....

Fair comment, but these elite officials are highly paid professionals these days and they are supposed to be fitter than ever ? None of them can see a thing if an "offence" occurs within 10 yards of his vision though which is acutely alarming.

My poll would be this .....

Abysmal

Useless

Bent

Slightly Bent

Very Poor

Poor

Rag

Slighty Below Average

Average

Slightly Above Average

Howard Webb


Feel free to add to said list ;)

I agree the refs have been substandard, but to some extent so have most of the teams in the league. Do the Rags really look 15 points better than everyone else in this league? Saturday was pretty much a tell-tale of their season beating a lowly Reading 1-0 at home on a fluke of a goal. Maybe all is anti-climatic from last year from a blue perspective, but the league in total has just been flat, players and refs.

Years ago I wasn't really in favour of technology on a football pitch, but over the last 2 seasons I've changed my view completely. I now believe that we have to accept that refs are either going to make mistakes or, in extreme situations, may be biased. To counter this I think it's crucial video technology is introduced but not just for goal line technology - I want it for a range of moments policed in a manner like tennis.

In my eyes it should be fairly easy for an appeal process within games to be set up whereby each manager can appeal a decision (within so many seconds) and the ref/4th official can review and if the manager is proved to be correct then the decision is reversed and the manager has the ability to appeal again. If it is an incorrect or frivolous appeal then the manager loses his right to appeal (perhaps allowed one each half) and the decision stands (appeals that disrupt play in some way can be coped with via free-kicks/penalties etc.).

If a manager is known to make regular 'unproven' appeals then he should be punished.

I think doing something like this will take away the manager's post match whinging and will also aid match officials. It will also ensure fairer games. There will still be mistakes, but at least we'll get closer to accurate decisions.

gary james wrote:Years ago I wasn't really in favour of technology on a football pitch, but over the last 2 seasons I've changed my view completely. I now believe that we have to accept that refs are either going to make mistakes or, in extreme situations, may be biased. To counter this I think it's crucial video technology is introduced but not just for goal line technology - I want it for a range of moments policed in a manner like tennis.

In my eyes it should be fairly easy for an appeal process within games to be set up whereby each manager can appeal a decision (within so many seconds) and the ref/4th official can review and if the manager is proved to be correct then the decision is reversed and the manager has the ability to appeal again. If it is an incorrect or frivolous appeal then the manager loses his right to appeal (perhaps allowed one each half) and the decision stands (appeals that disrupt play in some way can be coped with via free-kicks/penalties etc.).

If a manager is known to make regular 'unproven' appeals then he should be punished.

I think doing something like this will take away the manager's post match whinging and will also aid match officials. It will also ensure fairer games. There will still be mistakes, but at least we'll get closer to accurate decisions.

You raise some interesting points. To suggest also that stopping the game to check on something might spoil it is also a bit of a joke too. How many times have we seem swarms of players around a ref after a dubious (?) decision? and the time that wastes? Man U do this perfectly so that the old geezers can stroll back to their walking frames?

Think they have been slightly better than last year but still very poor. Maybe raise their pay to comparable to a modern footballer to attract better talent? After all, they are almost as key to a good game as any star player.

But how all 4 officials missed/failed to call the Mcmanaman tackle this past weekend is atrocious. And the fact that the FA is taking no action is unfathomable. It just might turn out to be a career ending tackle. They couldn't examine Haidara's knee because his leg couldn't straighten at all.

The FA are beyond comprehension and this is what is keeping the level of officiating so low.

I actually don't think there's so much wrong with the referees but with the system. I mean this tackle will not be punished because the ref admitted he saw a bit of it. Should that even matter? These types of rules put a lot of pressure on the refs completely unnecessarily. I mean, even if the ref stood 10 centimetres away and saw it and still deemed it to be a non offence, it should still be punished retroactively.

Cocacolajojo wrote:I actually don't think there's so much wrong with the referees but with the system. I mean this tackle will not be punished because the ref admitted he saw a bit of it. Should that even matter? These types of rules put a lot of pressure on the refs completely unnecessarily. I mean, even if the ref stood 10 centimetres away and saw it and still deemed it to be a non offence, it should still be punished retroactively.

Nothing from the FA, he's clear.

I'd have to say the standard of referee's overalls this year has been pretty poor, and doesn't look like getting better.*

*See above.