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Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:39 pm
by Beefymcfc
Quite simple, what do you think the new managers targets will be in relation to the league, champions league etc?

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:43 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
Win every game and every trophy. Next question please.

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:45 pm
by Beefymcfc
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Win every game and every trophy. Next question please.

Very flippant Mr H, surely you are jesting?

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:02 pm
by Yaya Toure is a LAD
Win every single piece of silver wear and sell Kolarov

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:03 pm
by Yaya Toure is a LAD
Get our home streak going again, have it going on until like 2021 or something!

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:05 pm
by gillie
Yaya Toure is a LAD wrote:Get our home streak going again, have it going on until like 2021 or something!

I would rather get an away streak going the rags lost more at home this season than we have in over 2 years.

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:09 pm
by Beefymcfc
Yaya Toure is a LAD wrote:Win every single piece of silver wear and sell Kolarov

Kolarov, are you mad!!!

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:21 pm
by Lev Bronstein
Beefymcfc wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Win every game and every trophy. Next question please.

Very flippant Mr H, surely you are jesting?


Why? That should be the attitude.

I don't like this target bollox. You won't win every game, but if there are reasons why you don't win, try and put it right. It might be possible to play brilliantly all season and end up no better off than we have this season. But I for one would feel a whole lot happier than I do now.

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:21 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
Beefymcfc wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Win every game and every trophy. Next question please.

Very flippant Mr H, surely you are jesting?



Flippant yes, jesting not really. Of course winning every game just won't happen but any manager who doesn't set out to win a game isn't much of a manager imo. One thing I would expect him to do, after the shake out of buying some and selling some,is to use the squad better. I am not convinced we have any "kids" ready to step in fully yet but some need to be more integrated into the squad/team to do their fair share of the work.

If we do well in the cups ( why shouldn't we!) we will play 50 + games so the workload needs to be shared around so that the key best players (whoever they are) are not expected to play them all.I would hope the new boss can do that effectively while we keep winning.Some so called experts said we had the best squad in the league so we should have been able to field close to a 2nd eleven and still win games.I didn't think we had the best squad but I do think it wasn't used properly.

I do want us to win the league and be good in every other competition.If we get it right it's got to be a double.If not just the league and then the double the year after.

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:22 pm
by Bear60
Knock them off their Perch

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:28 pm
by Original Dub
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Flippant yes, jesting not really. Of course winning every game just won't happen but any manager who doesn't set out to win a game isn't much of a manager imo. One thing I would expect him to do, after the shake out of buying some and selling some,is to use the squad better. I am not convinced we have any "kids" ready to step in fully yet but some need to be more integrated into the squad/team to do their fair share of the work.

If we do well in the cups ( why shouldn't we!) we will play 50 + games so the workload needs to be shared around so that the key best players (whoever they are) are not expected to play them all.I would hope the new boss can do that effectively while we keep winning.Some so called experts said we had the best squad in the league so we should have been able to field close to a 2nd eleven and still win games.I didn't think we had the best squad but I do think it wasn't used properly.

I do want us to win the league and be good in every other competition.If we get it right it's got to be a double.If not just the league and then the double the year after.


Brilliant post mate

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:40 pm
by Beefymcfc
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Win every game and every trophy. Next question please.

Very flippant Mr H, surely you are jesting?



Flippant yes, jesting not really. Of course winning every game just won't happen but any manager who doesn't set out to win a game isn't much of a manager imo. One thing I would expect him to do, after the shake out of buying some and selling some,is to use the squad better. I am not convinced we have any "kids" ready to step in fully yet but some need to be more integrated into the squad/team to do their fair share of the work.

If we do well in the cups ( why shouldn't we!) we will play 50 + games so the workload needs to be shared around so that the key best players (whoever they are) are not expected to play them all.I would hope the new boss can do that effectively while we keep winning.Some so called experts said we had the best squad in the league so we should have been able to field close to a 2nd eleven and still win games.I didn't think we had the best squad but I do think it wasn't used properly.

I do want us to win the league and be good in every other competition.If we get it right it's got to be a double.If not just the league and then the double the year after.

It's not realistic though mate, not at the moment. Like last year, I don't expect instant success, just by the nature of our set up (players etc) but at least we are challenging. As long as that continues and we continue to get CL then I'm happy.

Arse have won what lately?

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:26 am
by Slim
If you removed our 1st 11, would we really have a second eleven capable of winning games?

Hart
Zabs--Kompany--Lescott--Clichy
Nasri--Yaya--Barry--Silva
Aguero--Tevez

Pantilimon
Richards--Kolo--Nastasic--Kolarov
Milner--Rodwell--Garcia--Sinclair
Dzeko--Ummm, Guidetti?

That second side is better than our 05-06 first team, I am guessing midtable with Micah, Rodders, Milner and Dzeko being the star players.

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 8:06 am
by Bianchi on Ice
Rats, mice, rabbits, the odd vole I suppose

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 8:07 am
by Douglas Higginbottom
Slim wrote:If you removed our 1st 11, would we really have a second eleven capable of winning games?

Hart
Zabs--Kompany--Lescott--Clichy
Nasri--Yaya--Barry--Silva
Aguero--Tevez

Pantilimon
Richards--Kolo--Nastasic--Kolarov
Milner--Rodwell--Garcia--Sinclair
Dzeko--Ummm, Guidetti?

That second side is better than our 05-06 first team, I am guessing midtable with Micah, Rodders, Milner and Dzeko being the star players.


But that's exactly it,you don't leave out all the so called first team you mix and match.Maybe 4 or 5 of that first team play and a bunch of the others get a look in.There is no doubt enough quality anyway in that second 10 to do that and expect to win games and that's even with Kolarov getting a game.

And for completeness you missed out Maicon so he must be the other striker.Looking at the EDS squad the players who could fill out the bench at times and get substitute roles I would say Razak for certain plus Suarez, Huws,Evans,Pozo,Guidetti,Rusnak.Not that they will definitely make it but they should be given some bench/game time to properly give others a break.

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:08 am
by branny
I just hope he gets us playing like we did in 2011-2012 and stop the shitty freak results that we've had this season like losing three at home. The rest like our abysmal records against Sunderland and scouse 2 should then get sorted as well. I'd love us to emulate Arses unbeaten season.

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:08 am
by Benjay
Dont know if anyone listened to Calderon (former Real Madrid president) on talksport yesterday. When he was talking about why he sacked Capello he made quite an interesting comment about how he sought the opinions of Raul, Guti and Casillas. It told me that certain players there clearly had power at the club, a power that (it is reported) undermined Pellegrini in his season there (they sold Robben and Sneider against his will as well). The same player power that undermined AVB at Chelsea. I didnt see that at Utd nor at Barca. Player power I think undermined Bobby to some degree. Therefore Pellegrini's time at Real can be judged positively bearing in mind what he was contending with and both he and the board need to make sure some of our players dont get too big for their boots.

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:13 am
by Nigels Tackle
branny wrote:I just hope he gets us playing like we did in 2011-2012 and stop the shitty freak results that we've had this season like losing three at home. The rest like our abysmal records against Sunderland and scouse 2 should then get sorted as well. I'd love us to emulate Arses unbeaten season.


first dozen or so games of the 2011/12 season were incredible

if he can get us playing like that over the course of a 50+ game season, i'll be a very happy man

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:19 am
by Im_Spartacus
Benjay wrote:Dont know if anyone listened to Calderon (former Real Madrid president) on talksport yesterday. When he was talking about why he sacked Capello he made quite an interesting comment about how he sought the opinions of Raul, Guti and Casillas. It told me that certain players there clearly had power at the club, a power that (it is reported) undermined Pellegrini in his season there (they sold Robben and Sneider against his will as well). The same player power that undermined AVB at Chelsea. I didnt see that at Utd nor at Barca. Player power I think undermined Bobby to some degree. Therefore Pellegrini's time at Real can be judged positively bearing in mind what he was contending with and both he and the board need to make sure some of our players dont get too big for their boots.


He wasnt undermined by the players, he was cleared out because mourinho became available and Real were shitting it about Barcelona's dominance. The top brass at Madrid admitted that when they fired him so there's no mystery.

Interestingly, Jose hasnt managed to do better than pellegrini did in the league points wise which excites me

Re: Pelligini's Targets

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:35 am
by ashton287
The press have turned on him already.

He HAS to win 5 trophies in 5 years.

Fucking usual service resumes.