Monaco

[Dubciteh]

Where's the FFP in that? Just signed two players for 70m€, they have a small stadium and have just come up from the french second division(or equivalent). Also linked to Falcao. Surely this paves the way for clubs to do whatever they want?

http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8 ... -Rodriguez

[kinkylola]

they were linked to falcao, tevez ... and mancini as coach as well I believe.

I can see 2 possible scenarios for how they will be ok with FFP:

1. They are french and will not be targeted
2. FFP is horseshit and no one has to worry about it.

[Bianchi on Ice]

they were linked to falcao, tevez ... and mancini as coach as well I believe.

I can see 2 possible scenarios for how they will be ok with FFP:

1. They are french and will not be targeted
2. FFP is horseshit and no one has to worry about it.

hope they implode....or pay fucking tax like everyone else. you earn..you pay tax on it...dont like it? fuck off to mars with your bags o cash.

[Tokyo Blue]

8000 fans (I'm being generous here). 70 million Euros on two players. Dead fair that.

Unchecked teams like Monaco can and will take top players away from the English game and there will be not a sausage English clubs can do, now they have voted in this unilateral English Financial "Fair Play" rule.

[phips]

good for them...get some competition back into Ligue 1 and rival PSG, especially if they sign Falcao for something like £50m.

Porto just got gutted though.

[Im_Spartacus]

good for them...get some competition back into Ligue 1 and rival PSG, especially if they sign Falcao for something like £50m.

Porto just got gutted though.

Porto will just do what they do best, go and find more stars

[Ted Hughes]

The answer is that they won't 'get away with it'.

They will either challenge it or accept the ban or fine or points deduction.

We still don't know what the penalty actually is.

[Im_Spartacus]

The answer is that they won't 'get away with it'.

They will either challenge it or accept the ban or fine or points deduction.

We still don't know what the penalty actually is.

I presume they have always been run at a loss? In theory, with the extreme sanction being to ban a club from European competition, they wouldnt qualify next year if their league position warranted it.

However if they do all their spending now, off the back of a promotion and are rebuilding from a position of being outside .european competition, then claim in subsequent years that they are taking steps to comply, eg, increased revenue from champions league, sponsorships etc, then there probably isnt much uefa can do.

This is probably their one shot to use that loophole

[Ted Hughes]

The answer is that they won't 'get away with it'.

They will either challenge it or accept the ban or fine or points deduction.

We still don't know what the penalty actually is.

I presume they have always been run at a loss? In theory, with the extreme sanction being to ban a club from European competition, they wouldnt qualify next year if their league position warranted it.

However if they do all their spending now, off the back of a promotion and are rebuilding from a position of being outside .european competition, then claim in subsequent years that they are taking steps to comply, eg, increased revenue from champions league, sponsorships etc, then there probably isnt much uefa can do.

This is probably their one shot to use that loophole

They could go down the 'sponsorship' road I imagine. I recon that's what City, PSG & maybe a few other unexpected teams will do.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Perhaps Monaco are convinced that, in FFP terms, PSG will "get away with it" because of the Platini connection - after all, in contorted terms, nepotism could be argued to be OK by such miscreants, as long as you keep it in the family.

On that basis, if/when PSG don't get thrown to the wolves, Monaco reckon they should be safe.

[sheblue]

I don't know, rather see falcao going to them rather than a few others closer to home I could think of.

[Im_Spartacus]

They could go down the 'sponsorship' road I imagine. I recon that's what City, PSG & maybe a few other unexpected teams will do.

You would have to imagine though that they would need to be in the champions league before they could use this excuse for some bumper deals.

This is what I mean, they will essentially have their route to the competition blocked if the rules are strictly applied, and there is no way they could get sponsorship outside of the champions league which would be considered fair value. I think they will be let in on the basis that they will try to comply once in the cl.

[Lee_R]

Seriously.. 18k stadium? What sort of player wants to go there, not play in europe and to so few fans?

[Im_Spartacus]

Seriously.. 18k stadium? What sort of player wants to go there, not play in europe and to so few fans?

The same sort that moved to city in the early stages of the 'project'

[Ted Hughes]

They could go down the 'sponsorship' road I imagine. I recon that's what City, PSG & maybe a few other unexpected teams will do.

You would have to imagine though that they would need to be in the champions league before they could use this excuse for some bumper deals.

This is what I mean, they will essentially have their route to the competition blocked if the rules are strictly applied, and there is no way they could get sponsorship outside of the champions league which would be considered fair value. I think they will be let in on the basis that they will try to comply once in the cl.

Perhaps, but imo, there is no way a sporting organisation can decide what 'fair market value' etc is for a legitimate business. If it passes the rules of the country concerned, then imo UEFA can do fuck all about it.

[ashton287]

Is there something in the FFP rules that would stop a team in future if they went and splashed the cash now. Took the CL ban but just kept winning domestic trophies and building their profile. Then after a few years of this stop operating at a loss through the kind of friendly sponsorship deals we have in place and then being within the FFP limits and entering the CL?.

[Im_Spartacus]

Is there something in the FFP rules that would stop a team in future if they went and splashed the cash now. Took the CL ban but just kept winning domestic trophies and building their profile. Then after a few years of this stop operating at a loss through the kind of friendly sponsorship deals we have in place and then being within the FFP limits and entering the CL?.

Only if domestic rules prevented it, and the owner would need incredibly deep pockets to sustain quite long term losses to run a team to clear up domestically without European money and the additional sponsorship which comes from European participation. It would need someone who an extremely long term end game in mind.

The reality is that to compete with PSG now, no club in France can be financially solvent and realistically challenge. Lyon maybe, but they already have the income from years of domination.

[Cit.revenge]

Platini takes over and u have Two French club taking over football market.

[Risby]

And he's worried about European football becoming corrupt!!!!!!!!

[Saul Goodman]

Along with Falcao there's rumours of Victor Valdes moving there and possibly Dani Alves and Patrice Evra, although Valdes seems the most likely of those latter 3.