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Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:45 am
by ENIAM NAM
Does anyone know if Pellegrini adopts this tactic, or are the players going to have to revert to man to man marking?

Personally not a fan of zonal marking at all!

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:04 am
by Moonchesteri
While people were complaining about the zonal marking I have to point out how few goals we've conceded during the past couple of years, using zonal marking.

Personally I am bit worried what will happen if we go back to man marking!

But if San Pellegrino wants to use man marking system then hopefully that will lead to even fewer goals conceded!

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:30 am
by Cit.revenge
Think most of the season we had good defense, and that we may have problems at few last games a couple of errors Hart in season but all in all we had good enough season in that segment of game.'ve received a lot of goals from set pieces but I'm more interested in what will be done to attack and setting up the first line of defense. Sometimes we let too easy ball to come to the last four specially in the few last games . But the biggest problem was the lack of ideas in attack and lack of finishing chances .

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:32 am
by Ted Hughes
I think we use a mixture of zonal & man marking and sheer luck. Usually we leave at least one bloke with a free header per game & 9 times out of 10, he heads it over the bar, & we all go 'oooooooh/ mumble' then forget it happened, (unless Lescott was nearby at the time, in which case it's his fault).

No idea what Pelle does; probably not a worry in Spain. wait til he gets to West Ham..

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:43 pm
by Nigels Tackle
he was a centre half by trade

i expect him (and his team) to have our defence drilled to perfection

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:52 pm
by Nigels Tackle
he was a centre half by trade

i expect him (and his team) to have our defence drilled to perfection

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:59 pm
by bobby brows
I wonder if Pellegrini will pop the hand brake on for a while whilst he works out what his best team is especially as the system is going to change.

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:18 pm
by brite blu sky
My take is that these things are just convenient labels. As Ted mentioned we probs adopt a bit of both, and there are shortcomings with both approaches. Man to Man can be undone just as easily by blocking off the marker deliberately or by crowding the area where the ball is going to drop. Zonal in theory should overcome this IF everyone stays 100% alert and sees who is coming into their own zone... as we know that doesn't happen 100% of the time so there is the weakness in that approach.

Personally I'd go for zonal for the simple reason that when it goes wrong it is easy to pin it on the player who didn't see something coming. Being so obviously singled out should have the effect of that player making sure he doesn't get caught out again.
Bottom line is that zonal should eventually get there and be optimal efficiency.
Do our stats bear that out? probably not.

I have no idea what Pellegrini adopts, or for that matter Tricky or Big Sol.

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:14 pm
by Ted Hughes
brite blu sky wrote:My take is that these things are just convenient labels. As Ted mentioned we probs adopt a bit of both, and there are shortcomings with both approaches. Man to Man can be undone just as easily by blocking off the marker deliberately or by crowding the area where the ball is going to drop. Zonal in theory should overcome this IF everyone stays 100% alert and sees who is coming into their own zone... as we know that doesn't happen 100% of the time so there is the weakness in that approach.

Personally I'd go for zonal for the simple reason that when it goes wrong it is easy to pin it on the player who didn't see something coming. Being so obviously singled out should have the effect of that player making sure he doesn't get caught out again.
Bottom line is that zonal should eventually get there and be optimal efficiency.
Do our stats bear that out? probably not.

I have no idea what Pellegrini adopts, or for that matter Tricky or Big Sol.


I think we should stand Yaya at the halfway line for corners. His threat on the break would keep a (big) player back in their half & our people won't get the false impession he is marking either a zone or a player in our box, because he isn't.

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:06 pm
by brite blu sky
Ted Hughes wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:My take is that these things are just convenient labels. As Ted mentioned we probs adopt a bit of both, and there are shortcomings with both approaches. Man to Man can be undone just as easily by blocking off the marker deliberately or by crowding the area where the ball is going to drop. Zonal in theory should overcome this IF everyone stays 100% alert and sees who is coming into their own zone... as we know that doesn't happen 100% of the time so there is the weakness in that approach.

Personally I'd go for zonal for the simple reason that when it goes wrong it is easy to pin it on the player who didn't see something coming. Being so obviously singled out should have the effect of that player making sure he doesn't get caught out again.
Bottom line is that zonal should eventually get there and be optimal efficiency.
Do our stats bear that out? probably not.

I have no idea what Pellegrini adopts, or for that matter Tricky or Big Sol.


I think we should stand Yaya at the halfway line for corners. His threat on the break would keep a (big) player back in their half & our people won't get the false impession he is marking either a zone or a player in our box, because he isn't.


spot on and a good idea. Someone tell someone at City, cos they obviously haven't thought of it yet.

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:56 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
In tonight's game, Dortmund seemed to be using a mixture of zonal marking and man-to-man at the same time, insofar as some Bayern players were marked and others weren't, especially at corners where they had some chances from almost 'free' headers.

I would have thought the best approach would be to play either one system, or the other but not both together, as that could well be a recipe for total confusion.

Haven't thought about it much but what system do other sides in the Premiership use ?? Are we alone in using the zonal format ??

Re: Zonal marking from set pieces

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:21 pm
by Im_Spartacus
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:In tonight's game, Dortmund seemed to be using a mixture of zonal marking and man-to-man at the same time, insofar as some Bayern players were marked and others weren't, especially at corners where they had some chances from almost 'free' headers.

I would have thought the best approach would be to play either one system, or the other but not both together, as that could well be a recipe for total confusion.

Haven't thought about it much but what system do other sides in the Premiership use ?? Are we alone in using the zonal format ??


I think that most teams will employ a subtle mixture of the two. Its no good just zonal marking if the attacking side have 3 6ft 4 players, and one runs into the zone covered by a full back, so logically I expect in that sort of scenario you would want a mixture.