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Been following links with him for a few weeks.. I for one am anticipating exciting things this coming season if the likes of this are coming our way.
(Sorry if I'm slow starting this)

Here's my link: http://www.football-espana.net/31342/ag ... s-and-city

Mate your link is saying page not found.

He hasn't done it right and it's broken.

As for Navas, I see him as a huge risk with his well documented problems.

Slim wrote:He hasn't done it right and it's broken.

As for Navas, I see him as a huge risk with his well documented problems.

Me too Slim.

risk worth taking if only for the quality of the chants we'll have for him

also, with so many spanish speakers due at the club next season, he's hardly going to be alone is he?

he comes from nazareth...

I've always enjoyed watching him because I love traditional wingers.
This will be interesting because if Pellegrini doesn't use traditional widemen Navas could turn out to be huge flop. Then again, with proper centerforward he could be massive hit. First test whether La eMe brings players for the sake of it or to suit managers system.

If we play proper wingers we should keep Dzeko. He will get 20+ per year if we actually played to his strengths

Tend to agree about dzeko - he was quality before he arrived and has chipped in with a fair few goals from the bench - if we're changing style and going wingers and target man - he'd suit it

Wooders wrote:Tend to agree about dzeko - he was quality before he arrived and has chipped in with a fair few goals from the bench - if we're changing style and going wingers and target man - he'd suit it

I also agree. He scores goals even when he's shit so imagine if we were able to make him good.

Wingers and dzeko doesn't fit the bill for "attractive football" so we won't be going that.

Plus navas is shit and old. His best days, which weren't very impressive anyway, are behind him.

ashton287 wrote:Wingers and dzeko doesn't fit the bill for "attractive football" so we won't be going that.

Plus navas is shit and old. His best days, which weren't very impressive anyway, are behind him.

How much Spanish football do you watch? He's neither shit nor old. People were saying the same kinds of things about Soldado and Negredo the other week, and I'm sure they were just pulling their 'opinions' out of their arses without actually having much of a clue. I'm not saying that's the case here, but is it?

Alioune DVToure wrote:
How much Spanish football do you watch? He's neither shit nor old. People were saying the same kinds of things about Soldado and Negredo the other week, and I'm sure they were just pulling their 'opinions' out of their arses without actually having much of a clue. I'm not saying that's the case here, but is it?

He is 27 which in football terms and especially for a winger is old. He has never looked world class, just decent. At that age I can't see him getting any better in a harder league.

Don't think he is the type of guy we need to be bringing in. Seems like de ja vu with the chaff we got last season. I don't see him taking us to the next level so i don't see the point in signing him.

Everyone seems to get really excited these days when we sign a player and all the sudden he is great when deep down we all know we haven't signed anyone above average since aguero and signing navas would just carry on that trend.

Edit: Especially at the prices being talked about.

ashton287 wrote:
He is 27 which in football terms and especially for a winger is old. He has never looked world class, just decent. At that age I can't see him getting any better in a harder league.

Don't think he is the type of guy we need to be bringing in. Seems like de ja vu with the chaff we got last season. I don't see him taking us to the next level so i don't see the point in signing him.

Everyone seems to get really excited these days when we sign a player and all the sudden he is great when deep down we all know we haven't signed anyone above average since aguero and signing navas would just carry on that trend.

Edit: Especially at the prices being talked about.

Navas is going to be a marmite signing.

He comes with mental baggage (suffers from gross apprehension and anxiety problems), therefore this could be a problem living in a country he is not used to.

He does come with potential. We don't have anyone like him, so he could make it his own and cause problems for opponents if used properly.

Overall, I would give him a miss. There are others wingers i would rather spend the money on.

ashton287 wrote:
He is 27 which in football terms and especially for a winger is old. He has never looked world class, just decent. At that age I can't see him getting any better in a harder league.

Don't think he is the type of guy we need to be bringing in. Seems like de ja vu with the chaff we got last season. I don't see him taking us to the next level so i don't see the point in signing him.

Everyone seems to get really excited these days when we sign a player and all the sudden he is great when deep down we all know we haven't signed anyone above average since aguero and signing navas would just carry on that trend.

Edit: Especially at the prices being talked about.

If there's one thing I CAN guarantee, it's that he wouldn't cost 25M. Spanish clubs are all in such dire financial straits that they have to entertain all realistic offers. If he comes, expect the price to be in the 13-17M bracket.

Alioune DVToure wrote:
If there's one thing I CAN guarantee, it's that he wouldn't cost 25M. Spanish clubs are all in such dire financial straits that they have to entertain all realistic offers. If he comes, expect the price to be in the 13-17M bracket.

15m?

Original Dub wrote:
15m?

Something like, I reckon. Arsenal got Keith Harris for about 16M twelve months ago. Expect a similar sort of price for Navas.

ashton287 wrote:Wingers and dzeko doesn't fit the bill for "attractive football" so we won't be going that.

Plus navas is shit and old. His best days, which weren't very impressive anyway, are behind him.

I think Bayern and Borussia play that way . Never mind Dzeko we can find other target man even do i think hes on same level like Lewandowski and Mandzukic or Gomez .But that style is beat Real and Barcelona this year course with good midfield players and strong defense.

ashton287 wrote:Wingers and dzeko doesn't fit the bill for "attractive football" so we won't be going that.

Plus navas is shit and old. His best days, which weren't very impressive anyway, are behind him.

I don't get this. What's not beautiful about a bit of wing wizardry, a tantalising cross and an emphatic finish leaving the ball nestling on the onion bag? Poetry in motion.

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:

ashton287 wrote:Wingers and dzeko doesn't fit the bill for "attractive football" so we won't be going that.

Plus navas is shit and old. His best days, which weren't very impressive anyway, are behind him.

I don't get this. What's not beautiful about a bit of wing wizardry, a tantalising cross and an emphatic finish leaving the ball nestling on the onion bag? Poetry in motion.

Spot on..I dont see why we can't at least have the option of using our midfielders playing on their "strong side" or our overlapping defenders going to the dead ball line to get crosses in. Even if we don't use wingers we need to be able to use width sometimes if we cant break through the middle. Using wingers does not mean long ball football per se.

ashton287 wrote:Wingers and dzeko doesn't fit the bill for "attractive football" so we won't be going that.

Plus navas is shit and old. His best days, which weren't very impressive anyway, are behind him.

Sucked balls this year for sure. Whether that was just slump in form or permanent drop in quality remains to be seen.

If we try to use him in any other way than traditional winger going past fullback and putting crosses in this is going to turn out pretty bad. Good but very one dimensional player. Zero versatility.