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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby johnny crossan » Tue May 09, 2017 10:50 am

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johnny crossan wrote:This is a good find by Colin Savage (Prestwich Blue) from the other place - here is his post in full

'A lecturer in football finance at Liverpool Uni has analysed all the PL clubs' accounts for 2016 and applied a valuation method called the Markham Multivariate Model (MMM). This was developed by a guy called Dr Tom Markham and claims to be the most accurate model for valuing companies, particularly football clubs. For those interested it's a calculation based on net assets, revenue and net profits.

Using it, we come out valued at just under £2.3bn and the rags are just behind us at £2.23bn. Then come Arsenal, Spurs & Chelsea all valued at over £1bn but Liverpool, in sixth place, are quite a way behind in value at £590m. So Sheikh Mansour has nearly doubled his investment.

Here's the full table:

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What do the ranking brackets mean? It's not last season's table position and it can't be previous money table position?


It's supposed to be last season's positions but there are obvious errors there.

just City and Spurs the wrong way round as far as I can see
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Justified logic » Tue May 09, 2017 5:57 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
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johnny crossan wrote:This is a good find by Colin Savage (Prestwich Blue) from the other place - here is his post in full

'A lecturer in football finance at Liverpool Uni has analysed all the PL clubs' accounts for 2016 and applied a valuation method called the Markham Multivariate Model (MMM). This was developed by a guy called Dr Tom Markham and claims to be the most accurate model for valuing companies, particularly football clubs. For those interested it's a calculation based on net assets, revenue and net profits.

Using it, we come out valued at just under £2.3bn and the rags are just behind us at £2.23bn. Then come Arsenal, Spurs & Chelsea all valued at over £1bn but Liverpool, in sixth place, are quite a way behind in value at £590m. So Sheikh Mansour has nearly doubled his investment.

Here's the full table:

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What do the ranking brackets mean? It's not last season's table position and it can't be previous money table position?


It's supposed to be last season's positions but there are obvious errors there.

...So how reliable are the data in the model if they can't get a simple thing like last season's final positions correct?
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby johnny crossan » Tue May 09, 2017 9:27 pm

Justified logic wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:This is a good find by Colin Savage (Prestwich Blue) from the other place - here is his post in full

'A lecturer in football finance at Liverpool Uni has analysed all the PL clubs' accounts for 2016 and applied a valuation method called the Markham Multivariate Model (MMM). This was developed by a guy called Dr Tom Markham and claims to be the most accurate model for valuing companies, particularly football clubs. For those interested it's a calculation based on net assets, revenue and net profits.

Using it, we come out valued at just under £2.3bn and the rags are just behind us at £2.23bn. Then come Arsenal, Spurs & Chelsea all valued at over £1bn but Liverpool, in sixth place, are quite a way behind in value at £590m. So Sheikh Mansour has nearly doubled his investment.

Here's the full table:

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What do the ranking brackets mean? It's not last season's table position and it can't be previous money table position?


It's supposed to be last season's positions but there are obvious errors there.

...So how reliable are the data in the model if they can't get a simple thing like last season's final positions correct?

This is the MUEN's gloomy take on the study, that should go down well with you.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue May 09, 2017 10:01 pm

It is only us and Spurs that positions are mixed up, as JC pointed out, so you could put that down to a typo.

This model valued Everton at £216 million in August 2015.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/201 ... th-210803/

David Conn reckons that Farhad Moshiri paid £87.5million for a 49.9% share of Everton in February 2016, if he's right then either the model overvalued Everton or Farhad got a cracking deal.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby johnny crossan » Thu May 11, 2017 12:57 pm

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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu May 11, 2017 8:20 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:It is only us and Spurs that positions are mixed up, as JC pointed out, so you could put that down to a typo.

This model valued Everton at £216 million in August 2015.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/201 ... th-210803/

David Conn reckons that Farhad Moshiri paid £87.5million for a 49.9% share of Everton in February 2016, if he's right then either the model overvalued Everton or Farhad got a cracking deal.


It's only a 20% discount which isn't a lot really considering how long everton have been 'seeking investment'
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby john@staustell » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:37 am

So if you are one of our millions of new fans in Asia and you don't know where you next bet is coming from - worry no more!!

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/06/23/ ... r-official

Manchester City FC inks a multi-year deal with Kai-Fa Yule K8.com as Official Betting Partner in Asia will commence at the start of the 2017/18 football season.

The news comes in on the same day as FA’s announcement to end to all sponsorship deals with betting companies.

Manchester City FC is vigorously signing new partnerships to keep up with it’s neighbors ie Manchester United FC. Manchester City currently ranks 5th on Forbes evaluation list.

Damian Willoughby, senior vice president of partnerships at City Football Group, said: “We are delighted to welcome K8.com to the Manchester City family. They share our commitment to innovation and providing the best possible experience for fans and users alike.

“City has a growing and passionate fanbase in Asia and our commercial profile in the region continues to strengthen, supported by offices in Shanghai, Singapore and Tokyo. This partnership will allow City fans in Asia to interact with the Club in a new and exciting way and we’re looking forward to working together.”

K8.com’s branding will be present on the digiboards at the Etihad Stadium for all the Manchester City matches in the upcoming season. Users of the K8.com platform will also get access to win special ‘money can’t buy’ experiences involving the Manchester City squad and trips to see the team in action.

Michael McQuade, K8.com representative, said: “The Premier League is one of the biggest football leagues with a large audience and vast influence in Asia.

“This partnership is the perfect platform to promote our brand. We are looking forward to being the new partner of Manchester City and wish the Club all the success for the upcoming 2017/18 season.”
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:05 pm

johnny crossan wrote:top man in black with top bag
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as befits top dollar prem club


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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby john@staustell » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:09 am

Teaming up with Battlefy to build a big 'fandom' in the United States. Whatever that may be!

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/06/27/ ... tournament

UK football team Manchester City is looking to drive excitement and build a fandom in the US by hosting a Fifa eSports tournament exclusively in the region.

The club, part of the City Group that incorporates New York City, Yokohama, Melbourne City, Club Atlético Torque and the rumoured purchase of a La Liga side, is working with eSports platform Battlefy to hold the first Man City Fifa 17 Cup.

It will be hosted on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, and will see the best 128 players on each platform whittled down to two on each through a series of heats, culminating in two finals in Houston 19 July.

Diego Gigliani, senior vice-president, media and innovation, City Football Marketing, said: “This is a natural evolution for Manchester City. We’ve been very involved with our partner, EA Sports, and the game Fifa for some time.

“As eSports continues to gain momentum, it makes sense for Manchester City to be part of the action and get closer to our fans, who love playing Fifa as Manchester City."

The activity will coincide with the club’s US tour.

Man City was among the first wave of football clubs to snap up an eSports player. The Drum met up with 18-year-old Kieran 'Kez' Brown at the Etihad Stadium, and that interview, alongside an investigation into why clubs are pushing into eSports, will appear in an upcoming feature in The Drum mag and documentary.
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A quick squiz on OS, looks like still 13 languages but I'm looking on phone and unable to recognise all, just counted 13...
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby john@staustell » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:34 pm

Beat me by about 10 seconds :-)
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Postby john@staustell » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:02 pm

QNET extended - a great relief to us all

https://www.mancity.com/news/club-news/ ... artnership

Manchester City is delighted to announce it has extended its partnership with leading Asian direct selling company, QNET.
The three-year deal sees QNET retain its status as the Club’s Official Direct Selling Partner until 2020 and will allow the company to further expand its global brand presence and establish more diverse marketing platforms.

QNET are the flagship international direct selling subsidiary of the QI Group of Companies and Damian Willoughby, Senior VP of Partnerships for City Football Group, is pleased to have them on board for a further three years.

"We are delighted to see another partner extending their relationship with the Club as our respective businesses have enjoyed sustained growth and are set for further success in the years ahead,” he said.

“As we embark on a new exciting season in the English Premier League, we have a unique opportunity to connect with both our local and global fans and create unforgettable memories.”

Trevor Kuna, Chief Executive Officer of QNET, shares this delight, adding: “We are absolutely thrilled with this on-going partnership with Manchester City.”

“This is a significant relationship between two brands that are both keen on taking on any challenges for the taste of success.

“With this renewed relationship, we get to engage and interact with the various global communities we come into contact with as well as maintain our significant connection to key markets in Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Europe.”
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:04 pm

john@staustell wrote:QNET extended - a great relief to us all

https://www.mancity.com/news/club-news/ ... artnership

Manchester City is delighted to announce it has extended its partnership with leading Asian direct selling company, QNET.
The three-year deal sees QNET retain its status as the Club’s Official Direct Selling Partner until 2020 and will allow the company to further expand its global brand presence and establish more diverse marketing platforms.

QNET are the flagship international direct selling subsidiary of the QI Group of Companies and Damian Willoughby, Senior VP of Partnerships for City Football Group, is pleased to have them on board for a further three years.

"We are delighted to see another partner extending their relationship with the Club as our respective businesses have enjoyed sustained growth and are set for further success in the years ahead,” he said.

“As we embark on a new exciting season in the English Premier League, we have a unique opportunity to connect with both our local and global fans and create unforgettable memories.”

Trevor Kuna, Chief Executive Officer of QNET, shares this delight, adding: “We are absolutely thrilled with this on-going partnership with Manchester City.”

“This is a significant relationship between two brands that are both keen on taking on any challenges for the taste of success.

“With this renewed relationship, we get to engage and interact with the various global communities we come into contact with as well as maintain our significant connection to key markets in Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Europe.”


the quotes in all these releases are laughable
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Postby john@staustell » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:55 am

Canada and the US. GOALS. Remarkable coincidence, the team being out there and all that :D

https://www.mancity.com/news/club-news/ ... nouncement

City Football Group announces joint venture with Goals Soccer Centres in US and Canada...
City Football Group (CFG) and Goals Soccer Centres (Goals) have today announced a joint venture which will see the Group team up with one of the world's largest and most popular operators of dedicated, 5-a-side pitches, to create and run leading playing and training facilities across the US and Canada.

The sites will all be jointly City and Goals branded, with the new identity to be launched later this year.

City Football Group is the owner of football-related businesses in major cities around the world, including football clubs, academies, and technical and marketing companies. The Group includes football clubs on five continents; Manchester City, New York City FC in the US, Melbourne City in Australia, Yokohama f Marinos in Japan and CA Torque in Uruguay.

The news comes as Pep Guardiola’s City side visits the US for the Club’s pre-season tour, with games in Houston, Los Angeles and Nashville.

New signing, Danilo, will join Leroy Sane, Yaya Toure and Nicolas Otamendi at one of Goals’ two existing US sites, in Pomona, CA, to launch the new partnership.

Ferran Soriano, Chief Executive of City Football Group, said: “This is a very exciting development for our plans in the US and Canada. Soccer is indisputably the world’s number one sport and growing fast in this region. We have an ambitious vision to help this growth, including our ownership of New York City FC in MLS and many other initiatives like the one we are announcing today.

“The best way for people to fall in love with soccer is by participating. There are a very large number of soccer players in the US and Canada, of all ages, and facilities, like the ones we have and will build, will help tremendously. At CFG we will bring our expertise from the professional game to help Americans play and improve at the sport they love.

“This initiative shows City Football Group’s continuing commitment to soccer in North America. This partnership with an excellent and recognised operator like Goals gives us the best opportunity to succeed.”

Nick Basing, Chairman of Goals said: “I am delighted we have concluded our new partnership with City Football Group which will transform the prospects to expand our North American estate.

“This is a transformational agreement for our Company to grow and strengthen the North American business. We are delighted to be partnered with a global leader in soccer and believe the combination will give us significant competitive advantage at a time when the emerging market is in its infancy.
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Postby john@staustell » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:00 am

Meanwhile here's the LA Times' take on our growing brand. Shame about the 2nd tier bit:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la ... story.html

When Claudio Reyna played for Manchester City more than a decade ago, it was less a soccer club than a disaster.

Just two years removed from the second-tier Football League when Reyna arrived, City lost 48 times in his three full seasons there, narrowly escaping relegation again in 2006.

So it must have been a surprise for Reyna when he returned six years later, this time as an executive for the fledgling City Football Group, to find that the organization had become more a flourishing multinational corporation than a soccer club. A year after winning its first top-flight English title in 44 seasons, the team’s ownership created CFG and began expanding its brand to four continents.

It’s a model other European soccer clubs are now scrambling to follow because of the wide-ranging impact that goes beyond selling T-shirts and tickets.

“This is an evolution,” said Reyna, the sporting director for New York City FC, the group’s MLS affiliate.

“We’re already thinking ahead. We’re looking at what the football landscape’s going to be like in two or three years — globally, domestically in each of our leagues — and how we can get ahead of the competition.”

It’s part of a multibillion-dollar investment by City’s Abu Dhabi-based owners. And some of what that spending has bought will be on display Wednesday when Manchester City meets Real Madrid, winner of the last two Champions League crowns, in an exhibition at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

A crowd of more than 75,000 is expected for the 8 p.m. kickoff, according to event organizers.

Expanding payrolls and spiraling expenses have long required European teams to make summer barnstorming tours of the U.S. and Asia, where they briefly plant their flag, glad-hand some sponsors and pick up a few oversize checks. But lately even that hasn’t been enough to make ends meet.

So in 2014 German giant Bayern Munich opened a marketing office in New York, then added another in Asia following Bundesliga rival Borussia Dortmund, which had already set up shop in Singapore. FC Barcelona opened offices in Hong Kong and along New York’s Park Avenue, announced plans to fund a team in the National Women’s Soccer League and set up youth academies and clinics across the U.S.

Other teams have started similar projects or joined with existing clubs and academies in the U.S.

But Manchester City has been more ambitious. In 2013, it partnered with the New York Yankees on an MLS expansion team, New York City Football Club, and a year later it acquired, then rebranded, one of the two Melbourne teams in Australia’s A-league. That same year CFG joined automaker Nissan in the ownership group of the Yokohama Marinos of Japan’s J-League, and last April it bought second-division Uruguayan side Atletico Torque.

China is the next likely destination.

CFG has also invested heavily in its women’s affiliate, which the group formally took under its wing in 2012, moving the team into its 7,000-seat academy stadium, then this year signing U.S. star Carli Lloyd, a two-time world player of the year.

“If you look at all the top European clubs, most of them would say that they have a global fan base,” said Omar Berrada, CFG’s commercial chief, who puts City’s support at 400 million fans worldwide. “What’s different and unique about the City Football Group is the fact that we are able to have a permanent presence in key strategic markets that allow us to engage with the fans on a year-long basis, even though Manchester City itself is not there.

“This is really a model that hasn’t been implemented before.”

The three first-division teams fully owned by the group share more than just the City name, though. They also share similar crests, blue-and-white team colors, sponsorship opportunities and an attractive, possession-driven playing style. The synergies go beyond that to include marketing, scouting and player development, even architecture: When New York City FC announced plans to build a sprawling base for its academy, it recruited famed Uruguayan architect Rafael Vinoly, who designed CFG’s academies in Manchester and Melbourne.

“This is a long-term investment in soccer in the United States, which undeniably is growing,” said Tom Glick, a former minor league baseball, hockey and NBA executive and a former New York City FC president, who is now chief commercial officer for the City Football Group. “It’s a bet as well on Major League Soccer as a business model. This is a league we believe in.”

Despite everything the teams share, group executives insist the idea wasn’t simply to have minor-league affiliates around the globe feeding money, resources, ideas — maybe even players — to the parent club in England. Each team was to be independent and successful, promoting the sport in emerging markets such as New York, Melbourne and Japan and opening fans’ wallets along the way.

“CFG’s strategy contributes to the growth of the game, although I suspect the company's main goal is to deliver strategic and financial returns to their shareholders,” said Michael Goldman, an assistant professor in the sport management program at the University of San Francisco. “CFG’s approach is to integrate football, marketing, media, commercial, training and medical care across their subsidiaries, in order to provide these returns.”

But there are vast differences in the way the sport is played and administered in the English Premier League and the way it is run in the U.S. and Australia. Consider just the payroll for starters. The MLS has a team salary cap of $3.845 million, $1.2 million more than Australian teams can spend. Manchester City reportedly gave its lowest-paid first-team player the equivalent of the two salary caps combined last season.

“All of this has been a learning process,” Glick said. “We went into it intending to learn and intending to be patient but ultimately knowing that we can bring the skills and the expertise that we have.

“Ultimately we’re playing a game of soccer a couple of times a week. And that’s something that we know how to do.”

Reyna, a former U.S. national team captain, member of four World Cups and now CFG’s top soccer executive in the country, said he swaps ideas with group executives on a monthly conference call and at an annual retreat in England.

“There’s certainly cross-departmental learning that has happened from one club to the other,” he said of CFG, which is split into two divisions, one for soccer and one for marketing. “How do we approach sponsorship locally, globally, in different ways? That makes it really interesting and exciting in trying to find ways to collaborate to help our partners across the ocean.”

That sharing extends beyond the executive suites to the locker rooms. Former Manchester City midfielder Patrick Vieira, who got his first coaching job with the Manchester City reserves, is in his second season as manager for New York City, and three of his five assistants have City pedigrees as well.

“It’s not so much about the brand. It’s more like a family; an association of clubs that share probably a similar vision and similar values,” said Manchester City captain Vincent Kompany. “So you feel an association. You get to see so many different ways of looking at the game that come from different countries.

“But I think each club has its own identity.”

Yet all the spokes on the CFG wheel lead back to Manchester, where CFG has built a vast 80-acre training complex and development academy that will be difficult to replicate elsewhere.

The Etihad Campus, built on the site of an abandoned coal mine that dates to the 17th century, is named for the Emirati airline that is the team’s chief partner. The facility includes 16 ½ soccer fields — the half field for goalkeeper training — three gyms, cryotherapy and ultrasound rooms, locker rooms, six swimming pools and 80 bedrooms for academy prospects and first-team players who want to spend the night after training or before games at the adjacent 55,000-seat Etihad Stadium.

More than 450 players — from 6-year-olds to City’s first team — train there each week.

CFG plans for world domination shines through at the complex, where one large room in the main building boosts a New York decor, a nod to the team’s MLS sister club, and another has an Australian theme. Emblazoned on a well near the entrance is a quote from Sheikh Mansour, the team’s 46-year-old owner and the driving force behind CFG’s ambitious expansion.

“We are building a structure for the future not just a team of all-stars,” it reads.

Glick said, “I’m not aware of another organization that’s doing what we’re doing in terms of the group of clubs and leagues around the world and the investment that we’re making in the women’s game, the global foundation that we’ve created, the infrastructure that we’re doing, the marketing divisions and services.” He had to pause to take a breath before adding:

“We’re focused on this because we think it’s relevant to the future of the sport. This, for us, is a sustainable investment.
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Postby PrezIke » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:13 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... r-city-mls

Are Manchester City and NYC FC any closer to conquering America?

In their third season, New York City FC still play in Yankee Stadium. But results have improved and they aim to become one of the US’s biggest clubs
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Postby john@staustell » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:32 pm

Results seem much the same to me

Only consolation is that you earn vast amounts of money in America for sod all in sport
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