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fully expecting our russian friends to lodge some sort of formal complaint to uefa after the match - dressing room will be too cold, our fans cossack dancing in the stands etc...
on to the match...
guaranteed that they will park the bus
expecting us to win though
an early goal is key so hoping we come out of the blocks with a bang
do that and we'll win 3-0
come on city!!!

I see they are refusing to apologise and are citing us as making a big deal out of nothing.

Goes to show that there is definitely no problem in russia with racism. Roll on the world cup in 2018 consistinh of eastern european teams only

Wonderwall wrote:I see they are refusing to apologise and are citing us as making a big deal out of nothing.

Goes to show that there is definitely no problem in russia with racism. Roll on the world cup in 2018 consistinh of eastern european teams only

The FA's of the big football nations should grow a pair of bollox and threaten to bycott the Russian World cup, discrace of a nation when it comes to equality and, as you say, the fact they tried to pretend it wasnt racial and now refuse to apologise pretty much sums that country and the population up to a tee.

Of course they wont, Rusia does what the fuck it wants as UEFA and FIFA are toothless to stop them, I suspect they bend over constantly whilst accepting nice hand outs from non-dubious Rusian buisnessmen.

Oh and not to mention the Visa aspect of trying to get into the shithole, lets screw these fuckers over - anouther spanking and send them back to the 'mother land' with thier red tails between thier legs.

Twats

What gets me about the whole racism issue is the exaggeration claims. They deny it happened and then say it was exaggerated, if something didn't happen then how can you exaggerate it? How does one exaggerate racism anyway? it's either racism or it isn't.

Twobob wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:I see they are refusing to apologise and are citing us as making a big deal out of nothing.

Goes to show that there is definitely no problem in russia with racism. Roll on the world cup in 2018 consistinh of eastern european teams only

The FA's of the big football nations should grow a pair of bollox and threaten to bycott the Russian World cup, discrace of a nation when it comes to equality and, as you say, the fact they tried to pretend it wasnt racial and now refuse to apologise pretty much sums that country and the population up to a tee.

Of course they wont, Rusia does what the fuck it wants as UEFA and FIFA are toothless to stop them, I suspect they bend over constantly whilst accepting nice hand outs from non-dubious Rusian buisnessmen.

Oh and not to mention the Visa aspect of trying to get into the shithole, lets screw these fuckers over - anouther spanking and send them back to the 'mother land' with thier red tails between thier legs.

Twats

Worth adding that I heard the Russian clubs dont have any legal obligation to submit accounts and UEFA haven't quite worked out what to do about that yet.

john@staustell wrote:

Twobob wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:I see they are refusing to apologise and are citing us as making a big deal out of nothing.

Goes to show that there is definitely no problem in russia with racism. Roll on the world cup in 2018 consistinh of eastern european teams only

The FA's of the big football nations should grow a pair of bollox and threaten to bycott the Russian World cup, discrace of a nation when it comes to equality and, as you say, the fact they tried to pretend it wasnt racial and now refuse to apologise pretty much sums that country and the population up to a tee.

Of course they wont, Rusia does what the fuck it wants as UEFA and FIFA are toothless to stop them, I suspect they bend over constantly whilst accepting nice hand outs from non-dubious Rusian buisnessmen.

Oh and not to mention the Visa aspect of trying to get into the shithole, lets screw these fuckers over - anouther spanking and send them back to the 'mother land' with thier red tails between thier legs.

Twats

Worth adding that I heard the Russian clubs dont have any legal obligation to submit accounts and UEFA haven't quite worked out what to do about that yet.

They'll give them the Euro and maybe a couple of CL finals to punish them ...

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:What gets me about the whole racism issue is the exaggeration claims. They deny it happened and then say it was exaggerated, if something didn't happen then how can you exaggerate it? How does one exaggerate racism anyway? it's either racism or it isn't.

Your guiding premis is wrong because racism is what is perceived in the main and cultural differences mean that there are as many perceptions as there are cultures and a myriad of minor nuances between. I jest not when I say that it isn't black and white.
Different cultures develop at different speeds and I'd guess that, as a comparator, Russia is probably where the UK was in the early 1970's . . . we can look back and know that our national attitude was unacceptedly racist at that time (the BBC was openly racist), we can note that we've made changes for the better since but we have not erradicated racism from the UK . . as you will note when you read all the anti-muslim sentiment presently put out by our own government never mind the BNP etc.

It's easy to see that the CSKA management are wrong in what they say but their opinions are flavoured by the national attitude in Russia and that's where their fault lies but I feel that will improve with the media focus of the world cup and, in any event, they actually shine compared to some USA states where racism remains culturally embeded even now.

I don't want this thread to turn political, but I will say that Russia is quite fantastically screwed up. Football aside, I don't believe they should be permitted to host the Olympics or Formula 1 either.

Anyway, I just saw this on the BBC, they are starting early !

Statement from easyJet after a flight travelling from Moscow to Manchester was forced to divert to Denmark to eject drunken passengers on Sunday.

An easyJet spokesman told the BBC: "We can confirm that flight EZY1872 flying from Moscow Domodedovo to Manchester on November 3 diverted to Copenhagen airport due to the disruptive behaviour of a passenger on board. One passenger was immediately offloaded on arrival.

"Unfortunately, prior to take off, it was necessary for the captain to take the decision to offload a further six passengers. The aircraft then continued towards Manchester where it landed with a short delay.

"The safety and welfare of its passengers and crew is easyJet's highest priority and easyJet would like to thank the passengers for their understanding and apologise for any inconvenience caused."

The Manchester Evening News reported that the flight was carrying Russian football fans to Manchester for Tuesday's Champions League clash between Manchester City and CSKA Moscow.


COME ON CITY

[quote="Nigels Tackle"]fully expecting our russian friends to lodge some sort of formal complaint to uefa after the match - dressing room will be too cold, our fans cossack dancing in the stands etc...


First appearance of an inflatable banana in the stands will be enough for them.

john@staustell wrote:

Twobob wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:I see they are refusing to apologise and are citing us as making a big deal out of nothing.

Goes to show that there is definitely no problem in russia with racism. Roll on the world cup in 2018 consistinh of eastern european teams only

The FA's of the big football nations should grow a pair of bollox and threaten to bycott the Russian World cup, discrace of a nation when it comes to equality and, as you say, the fact they tried to pretend it wasnt racial and now refuse to apologise pretty much sums that country and the population up to a tee.

Of course they wont, Rusia does what the fuck it wants as UEFA and FIFA are toothless to stop them, I suspect they bend over constantly whilst accepting nice hand outs from non-dubious Rusian buisnessmen.

Oh and not to mention the Visa aspect of trying to get into the shithole, lets screw these fuckers over - anouther spanking and send them back to the 'mother land' with thier red tails between thier legs.

Twats

Worth adding that I heard the Russian clubs dont have any legal obligation to submit accounts and UEFA haven't quite worked out what to do about that yet.

Have they yet considered making it a requirement for them to submit accounts to UEFA?

Twobob wrote:
They'll give them the Euro and maybe a couple of CL finals to punish them ...

Makes sense that... no accounts means slush funds all over the place for all kinds of 'sponsoring'. I'm sure Monsieur Platini is working on it.

Anyone in Manchester city centre know if Russians are behaving themselves?

BobbyJ1956 wrote:Anyone in Manchester city centre know if Russians are behaving themselves?

Not seen any.

BobbyJ1956 wrote:Anyone in Manchester city centre know if Russians are behaving themselves?

Just been for a wonder and all fairly quiet in the City Centre

gmercer1 wrote:

BobbyJ1956 wrote:Anyone in Manchester city centre know if Russians are behaving themselves?

Just been for a wonder and all fairly quiet in the City Centre

Still hung over.

BobbyJ1956 wrote:Anyone in Manchester city centre know if Russians are behaving themselves?

I saw a few of em challenging folk to play roulette earlier!

Burt wrote:
I saw a few of em challenging folk to play roulette earlier!

Nice one, i think i will volunteer my wife to play.

BobbyJ1956 wrote:Anyone in Manchester city centre know if Russians are behaving themselves?

Most of them are in Denmark

Anyway racist, fascists to the side - i am looking forward to this. Team will be up for tonight more than usual with Yaya urging them on like a lion!

3-1 to us i recon, gutted thats it's anouther game paid for that i cant get to due to this bloody semi-paralysed state but at least I'm not shitting myself yet!

Expect a mild mention in the MUEN if we win, a three page spread if we lose.

Herb wrote:
Your guiding premis is wrong because racism is what is perceived in the main and cultural differences mean that there are as many perceptions as there are cultures and a myriad of minor nuances between. I jest not when I say that it isn't black and white.
Different cultures develop at different speeds and I'd guess that, as a comparator, Russia is probably where the UK was in the early 1970's . . . we can look back and know that our national attitude was unacceptedly racist at that time (the BBC was openly racist), we can note that we've made changes for the better since but we have not erradicated racism from the UK . . as you will note when you read all the anti-muslim sentiment presently put out by our own government never mind the BNP etc.

It's easy to see that the CSKA management are wrong in what they say but their opinions are flavoured by the national attitude in Russia and that's where their fault lies but I feel that will improve with the media focus of the world cup and, in any event, they actually shine compared to some USA states where racism remains culturally embeded even now.

Name those states would you Herb