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Seems Leeds have been sold down the river yet again, cant stand the fuckers or the fans but a once all powerful club being flushed down the swanlike even further.? Will this be the next Pompy?

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... mo-cellino

Still yet to pass the ever so stringent Fit and Proper owners test by the FA, which considering he has god 2 convictions for fraud and another charge for embezzlement hanging over him, they'll find him the perfect owner!

Reading further into it, seems Cagliari only have a temporary ground with most games being played behind closed doors as it doesn't have a safety cert (has to have one done on a per game basis) and his warrant for arrest apparently stated "marked criminal tendencies...capable of using every kind of deception to achieve his ends"

Not to mention the 35 managers he's sacked...

Seems its going to be fairly colourful over'thill

Should GFH really be selling up to someone like this? Are the FA really going to be able to block this - suspect they will be given the 'allow or we go under' ultimatum.

I heard about this too, I've always wonder how good we're Leeds back in the day?

Jorgobot wrote:I heard about this too, I've always wonder how good we're Leeds back in the day?

In the very early seventies, Leeds evolved into being a very, very good team but there was always the element of (for want of a better description) 'evil' about them and the 'dirty', win at all costs way they played the game.

I had mixed feelings towards them because of Don Revie's time at City but, under his management, Leeds were never a side that elicited high regard and affection from ordinary football fans, because they inevitably exhibited and exuded a nastiness and a spitefulness on the pitch.

They were a sort of Mourinho's Chelsea and the Scum all rolled into one - an efficient, grinding machine with occasional flair but with thoroughly distasteful attitudes. I think it's fair to say that, by and large, they were universally hated.

It's highly ironic that 'Football' seems to have exacted a long and lasting revenge upon Leeds for the 'crimes' that Don Revie perpetrated with them.

Mikhail Chigorin wrote: In the very early seventies, Leeds evolved into being a very, very good team but there was always the element of (for want of a better description) 'evil' about them and the 'dirty', win at all costs way they played the game. I had mixed feelings towards them because of Don Revie's time at City but, under his management, Leeds were never a side that elicited high regard and affection from ordinary football fans, because they inevitably exhibited and exuded a nastiness and a spitefulness on the pitch. They were a sort of Mourinho's Chelsea and the Scum all rolled into one - an efficient, grinding machine with occasional flair but with thoroughly distasteful attitudes. I think it's fair to say that, by and large, they were universally hated. It's highly ironic that 'Football' seems to have exacted a long and lasting revenge upon Leeds for the 'crimes' that Don Revie perpetrated with them.

Spot on Mikhail, "dirty Leeds" was an often heard quote back in the day

Dronny wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote: In the very early seventies, Leeds evolved into being a very, very good team but there was always the element of (for want of a better description) 'evil' about them and the 'dirty', win at all costs way they played the game. I had mixed feelings towards them because of Don Revie's time at City but, under his management, Leeds were never a side that elicited high regard and affection from ordinary football fans, because they inevitably exhibited and exuded a nastiness and a spitefulness on the pitch. They were a sort of Mourinho's Chelsea and the Scum all rolled into one - an efficient, grinding machine with occasional flair but with thoroughly distasteful attitudes. I think it's fair to say that, by and large, they were universally hated. It's highly ironic that 'Football' seems to have exacted a long and lasting revenge upon Leeds for the 'crimes' that Don Revie perpetrated with them.

Spot on Mikhail, "dirty Leeds" was an often heard quote back in the day

Leeds were kind of anti football but they were capable of brilliant, pass & move football themselves. First and foremost though, it was kick the living shit out of any kind of dangerous opponent, then play football if the situation allows.

The 'win at all costs' mantra was born at Leeds in that era. Universally loathed as well. Cloughs comment when he started of "you are all cheats and are a disgrace to the game" summed it up nicely.

Chelsea and Mourinho in particular have taken this model and run with it

they pioneered the "professional" approach which is standard today.
I saw a lot of football at Elland Road in the seventies and it was good.
And Big Mal described them as playing " the best football I've seen from any English side ever"
apart from that they you're right.

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Ted Hughes wrote:

Dronny wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote: In the very early seventies, Leeds evolved into being a very, very good team but there was always the element of (for want of a better description) 'evil' about them and the 'dirty', win at all costs way they played the game. I had mixed feelings towards them because of Don Revie's time at City but, under his management, Leeds were never a side that elicited high regard and affection from ordinary football fans, because they inevitably exhibited and exuded a nastiness and a spitefulness on the pitch. They were a sort of Mourinho's Chelsea and the Scum all rolled into one - an efficient, grinding machine with occasional flair but with thoroughly distasteful attitudes. I think it's fair to say that, by and large, they were universally hated. It's highly ironic that 'Football' seems to have exacted a long and lasting revenge upon Leeds for the 'crimes' that Don Revie perpetrated with them.

Spot on Mikhail, "dirty Leeds" was an often heard quote back in the day

Leeds were kind of anti football but they were capable of brilliant, pass & move football themselves. First and foremost though, it was kick the living shit out of any kind of dangerous opponent, then play football if the situation allows.

There were times, if Leeds were getting outplayed, Revie would be on the touchline and hitting his right fist into his left palm; a sign indicating to the players that it was time for increased thuggishness to be used.

They did have some flair players and, as the seventies progressed, this side of their game expanded a little, but even the flair players were adept at all the dirty tricks and fouls which Revie required (even Eddie Gray).

In the sixties especially, they were diabolical to watch and the 1965 Cup Final against Liverpool was the biggest non-event you could imagine between two abysmally boring sides (Mourinho would have loved it).

The Leeds approach became known and described as 'method football' which is a euphemism in itself.

Mikhail Chigorin wrote: In the very early seventies, Leeds evolved into being a very, very good team but there was always the element of (for want of a better description) 'evil' about them and the 'dirty', win at all costs way they played the game. I had mixed feelings towards them because of Don Revie's time at City but, under his management, Leeds were never a side that elicited high regard and affection from ordinary football fans, because they inevitably exhibited and exuded a nastiness and a spitefulness on the pitch. They were a sort of Mourinho's Chelsea and the Scum all rolled into one - an efficient, grinding machine with occasional flair but with thoroughly distasteful attitudes. I think it's fair to say that, by and large, they were universally hated. It's highly ironic that 'Football' seems to have exacted a long and lasting revenge upon Leeds for the 'crimes' that Don Revie perpetrated with them.

awww I see thanks for explaining.

Jorgobot wrote:awww I see thanks for explaining.

it's not an explanation, it's a statement of opinion which while it may be shared, is not definitive.
It's like saying Ali was a cocky cunt who spoiled the sweet science of pugilism

Leeds had a cracking team between about 1999 and 2003 as well. Champions League regulars with loads of exciting attacking players. Too many, in fact, which is what proved unsustainable financially. Anyone care to list the strikers they had on their books at once for a time? I can think of...

Mark Viduka
Robbie Keane
Harry Kewell
Robbie Fowler
Alan Smith

I bet there were more. They also spaffed a lot of transfer and wage money on the likes of Seth Johnson.

Alioune DVToure wrote:Leeds had a cracking team between about 1999 and 2003 as well. Champions League regulars with loads of exciting attacking players. Too many, in fact, which is what proved unsustainable financially. Anyone care to list the strikers they had on their books at once for a time? I can think of...

Mark Viduka
Robbie Keane
Harry Kewell
Robbie Fowler
Alan Smith

I bet there were more. They also spaffed a lot of transfer and wage money on the likes of Seth Johnson.

They had Yeboah & Hasslebank just before that, and er, Brian Deane.

Ted Hughes wrote:

Alioune DVToure wrote:Leeds had a cracking team between about 1999 and 2003 as well. Champions League regulars with loads of exciting attacking players. Too many, in fact, which is what proved unsustainable financially. Anyone care to list the strikers they had on their books at once for a time? I can think of...

Mark Viduka
Robbie Keane
Harry Kewell
Robbie Fowler
Alan Smith

I bet there were more. They also spaffed a lot of transfer and wage money on the likes of Seth Johnson.

They had Yeboah & Hasslebank just before that, and er, Brian Deane.

Darren Huckerby anyone?

Alex Sapphire wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:

Alioune DVToure wrote:Leeds had a cracking team between about 1999 and 2003 as well. Champions League regulars with loads of exciting attacking players. Too many, in fact, which is what proved unsustainable financially. Anyone care to list the strikers they had on their books at once for a time? I can think of...

Mark Viduka
Robbie Keane
Harry Kewell
Robbie Fowler
Alan Smith

I bet there were more. They also spaffed a lot of transfer and wage money on the likes of Seth Johnson.

They had Yeboah & Hasslebank just before that, and er, Brian Deane.

Darren Huckerby anyone?

Huckerby, yeah. What was the name of that other bloke whose career was plagued by injury (a la Matt Jansen)? Everyone thought he was going to be the next big thing but he ended up somewhere like Carlisle.

EDIT: Got it. Michael Bridges.

Alioune DVToure wrote:

Alex Sapphire wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:

Alioune DVToure wrote:Leeds had a cracking team between about 1999 and 2003 as well. Champions League regulars with loads of exciting attacking players. Too many, in fact, which is what proved unsustainable financially. Anyone care to list the strikers they had on their books at once for a time? I can think of...

Mark Viduka
Robbie Keane
Harry Kewell
Robbie Fowler
Alan Smith

I bet there were more. They also spaffed a lot of transfer and wage money on the likes of Seth Johnson.

They had Yeboah & Hasslebank just before that, and er, Brian Deane.

Darren Huckerby anyone?

Huckerby, yeah. What was the name of that other bloke whose career was plagued by injury (a la Matt Jansen)? Everyone thought he was going to be the next big thing but he ended up somewhere like Carlisle.

EDIT: Got it. Michael Bridges.

How the fuck did they never play for us ?

If Swales was still around, they would have.

Alex Sapphire wrote:

Jorgobot wrote:awww I see thanks for explaining.

it's not an explanation, it's a statement of opinion which while it may be shared, is not definitive.
It's like saying Ali was a cocky cunt who spoiled the sweet science of pugilism

In all fairness, there were other 'hard' sides around in that era, each one containing their own quota of 'hard' men. It was even said that 'Buzzer' wrapped his skills in barbed-wire and, in those days, tackles were allowed which would be an automatic red card (or more) in the current climate.

It's just that Leeds took this approach too far in excess and greatly transcended what was perceived, at that time, to be "hard but fair". Although they had some flair players and were capable of producing good football, they were never respected or admired for that and were, as has been previously stated, virtually universally loathed and detested for the way they conducted themselves.

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

Alex Sapphire wrote:

Jorgobot wrote:awww I see thanks for explaining.

it's not an explanation, it's a statement of opinion which while it may be shared, is not definitive.
It's like saying Ali was a cocky cunt who spoiled the sweet science of pugilism

In all fairness, there were other 'hard' sides around in that era, each one containing their own quota of 'hard' men. It was even said that 'Buzzer' wrapped his skills in barbed-wire and, in those days, tackles were allowed which would be an automatic red card (or more) in the current climate.

It's just that Leeds took this approach too far in excess and greatly transcended what was perceived, at that time, to be "hard but fair". Although they had some flair players and were capable of producing good football, they were never respected or admired for that and were, as has been previously stated, virtually universally loathed and detested for the way they conducted themselves.

and yet Alf Ramsey selected half a dozen of them (presumably the clean ones) for Mexico, and the FA appointed Revie as England manager :) And as I said above, big Mal (whose opinion I respect) liked how they played.

I think the issue is we're looking though sky blue glasses at the team which took over our mantle as the best in England. It's hard for us to be objective.

Alex Sapphire wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

Alex Sapphire wrote:

Jorgobot wrote:awww I see thanks for explaining.

it's not an explanation, it's a statement of opinion which while it may be shared, is not definitive.
It's like saying Ali was a cocky cunt who spoiled the sweet science of pugilism

In all fairness, there were other 'hard' sides around in that era, each one containing their own quota of 'hard' men. It was even said that 'Buzzer' wrapped his skills in barbed-wire and, in those days, tackles were allowed which would be an automatic red card (or more) in the current climate.

It's just that Leeds took this approach too far in excess and greatly transcended what was perceived, at that time, to be "hard but fair". Although they had some flair players and were capable of producing good football, they were never respected or admired for that and were, as has been previously stated, virtually universally loathed and detested for the way they conducted themselves.

and yet Alf Ramsey selected half a dozen of them (presumably the clean ones) for Mexico, and the FA appointed Revie as England manager :) And as I said above, big Mal (whose opinion I respect) liked how they played.

I think the issue is we're looking though sky blue glasses at the team which took over our mantel as the best in England. It's hard for us to be objective.

I'm sorry but that's absolute bollocks.

It's not City fans who have this opinion of Leeds it's almost everyone who saw them play. If you have a soft spot for them then fine, but suggesting that the rest of us are somehow biased against Leeds because they 'took over our mantel'. Everybody 'took over our mantel', we won one trophy in 40 odd years.

Two clubs stand out as the biggest bunch of cunts in some of our lifetimes: Leeds & Ferguson's Utd.

Only the Utd team with Ke**ne etc in it can truly compare to Leeds.

Ted Hughes wrote:
I'm sorry but that's absolute bollocks.

It's not City fans who have this opinion of Leeds it's almost everyone who saw them play. If you have a soft spot for them then fine, but suggesting that the rest of us are somehow biased against Leeds because they 'took over our mantel'. Everybody 'took over our mantel', we won one trophy in 40 odd years.

Two clubs stand out as the biggest bunch of cunts in some of our lifetimes: Leeds & Ferguson's Utd.

Only the Utd team with Ke**ne etc in it can truly compare to Leeds.

apology not accepted.
No soft spot, just went, as a football fan to a lot of games at their gaff cos I could. They were good at football. The best team Trevor Francis ever played against.
"The rest of you" so far is a couple of lads of about my age who must have seen them on Match of the Day when they were kids, and maybe some others who believe everything they read.
Immediatley after our best period to date, Leeds stood out. They even took our League title and I certainly resented their success, didn't you?

I'm of that age and saw them a couple if times, and I'm agreeing with Ted. I don't think anyone is disputing how good they were, head and shoulders above everyone else for a few seasons but they were also dirty and would cheat as a matter of course to get any sort of advantage. And that's probably why they were so universally loathed, because they were so good there was no need for them to behave as they did.