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FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:49 pm
by Lee_R
Sorry of covered but thought there would be a very active thread when I saw this news.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... 76-6759977


City believed to be amongst 76 being probed by UEFA over financial fair play
28 Feb 2014 20:14

The 76 clubs all failed UEFA’s break-even calculations for 2012 and have been asked to provide financial information for 2013

UEFA has revealed that 76 clubs in European competition this season - about one third of the total - are being investigated for possible breaches of its financial fair play (FFP) rules.

The 76 clubs all failed UEFA’s break-even calculations for 2012 and have been asked to provide financial information for 2013. Manchester City, and French club Paris St Germain are believed to be among the 76 clubs involved.

The clubs will all now have their finances assessed by the Club Financial Control Body to see if the breaches have continued and whether sanctions should apply.

UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino said: “This figure of 76 clubs is a high figure but it has to be looked at in the perspective of what the end figure will be.”

Clubs face a range of sanctions ranging from a warning or a fine up to being forced to play in Europe with a salary cap on the squad, or even being barred from competing and having trophies stripped.

The sanctions will apply from the start of next season but in April UEFA will name the clubs that are facing possible action. Some clubs will be offered settlements if they agree to certain conditions, but clubs who have been found to have severely breached the conditions will be referred to the adjudicatory arm of the financial control body which will announce sanctions in the middle of June.

The only appeals will be straight to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and UEFA expects final decisions will be made before the Champions League and Europa League group draws in August.

UEFA’s legal affairs director Alasdair Bell is anticipating a number of legal challenges.

He said: “This will be no surprise to us. We are not afraid of them being contested. We fully anticipate there will be challenges - it would be strange if there weren’t. July and August could be a busy time.”

Chelsea are understood not to be one of the 76 clubs facing investigation by UEFA. The Blues made a £49.4million loss last year but actually made a £1.4million profit in 2012 so are set to escape any action.

Among the English clubs, Manchester City would have the most to fear having returned losses of £97.9million in 2012 and £51.6million last year.

A club’s annual figures do not directly reflect UEFA’s break-even calculations but are an indication of those that are at risk - for example spending on facilities, youth development and contracts signed before 2010 are not included.

UEFA’s rules state clubs can be up to 45million euros (£37million) in the red over 2012 and 2013 so long as the owners put in equity to cover the losses. If clubs are over the 45million euro mark over the two years then they will face sanctions.

Infantino said the rules were necessary to “protect European football from greed, reckless spending and financial insanity”.

Earlier this month Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, chairman of the European Clubs’ Association, said he “cannot imagine that Paris St Germain are complying with financial fair play”.

Qatari-owned PSG has announced a huge, back-dated sponsorship deal with the Qatar Tourist Authority.

UEFA refused to discuss individual clubs, but said all sponsorship deals with related parties to club owners would be assessed to ensure they are of fair value.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:08 pm
by Slim
Qatari-owned PSG has announced a huge, back-dated sponsorship deal with the Qatar Tourist Authority.


Back dated? So they got paid for advertising a business they weren't advertising?

If PSG get a walk, and can you imagine Platini banning his son's team, then everyone will get a pass.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:27 pm
by AG7
So 76 teams being investigated ... hmm ... someone pls. check if the Scum currently stand 77th in the whole of Europe?

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:33 pm
by LookMumImOnMCF.net
Umm, isn't this an example of FFP in motion? How does this suggest "It doesn't work"?

AG7 wrote:So 76 teams being investigated ... hmm ... someone pls. check if the Scum currently stand 77th in the whole of Europe?

Contrary to your blinkered claims of bias, it's all clubs that didn't break even. Nothing to do with where teams 'stand', whatever that means.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:40 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
'City believed to be amongst....' Who wrote this, Woodward and Bernstein?

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:52 pm
by AG7
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Contrary to your blinkered claims of bias, it's all clubs that didn't break even. Nothing to do with where teams 'stand', whatever that means.


You obviously missed the sarcasm ...

If the Scum stand at 77th across all leagues in Europe, then the only way to get them in to Champions League would be to ban the 76 teams above them ... duh!

PS. We all know they don't stand 77th ... (before you actually go on counting) ...

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:07 am
by gillie
AG7 wrote:
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Contrary to your blinkered claims of bias, it's all clubs that didn't break even. Nothing to do with where teams 'stand', whatever that means.


You obviously missed the sarcasm ...

If the Scum stand at 77th across all leagues in Europe, then the only way to get them in to Champions League would be to ban the 76 teams above them ... duh!

PS. We all know they don't stand 77th ... (before you actually go on counting) ...

Exactly the rags look like missing the cash cow so ickle City are in the firing line.Call me a cynic but this fuckin stinks.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:17 am
by gillie
What fucks me right off about all this ffp bollox is the fuckin glazers have not put a fuckin bean into the rags.All they have done is milk the cunts dry.Whereas our owner has sunk a billion into our economy and is building the finest academy complex in the world.UEFA go fuck yourself many times without lube.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:46 am
by spiv
Nothing to worry about here, if there are 75 others besides us then let them sort them out first.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:18 am
by Chopper
This looks like a job for Joe Kinnear

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:32 am
by Slim
Chopper wrote:This looks like a job for Joe Kinnear


He'd just ban everyone until Wimbledon qualified for the Champions League.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:07 am
by Rag_hater
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Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:44 am
by mcfc1632
2 comments taken from a scum site following the announcement that 76 clubs are under investigation:

"...Isn't that the UEFA panel Gill is meant to be on?! "

"...As top 4 and winning the cl look like long shots is our best chance of cl qualification now finishing 5th and hoping city get banned? "

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:06 am
by Original Dub
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Umm, isn't this an example of FFP in motion? How does this suggest "It doesn't work"?

Contrary to your blinkered claims of bias, it's all clubs that didn't break even. Nothing to do with where teams 'stand', whatever that means.


Umm?

Oh dear

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:31 am
by john@staustell
Strikes someone has got one hell of a lot of work on. Have UEFA just hired another 1000 accountants then?

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:34 am
by AG7
john@staustell wrote:Strikes someone has got one hell of a lot of work on. Have UEFA just hired another 1000 accountants then?


No they just got Gill in and he's the one who initiated this is apparently will sit on a committee who will just see all and decide all (whether they can even read a balance sheet is a daft question here, as we all know what'll motivate them and how they work anyway) ... does anyone seriously believe FFP has anything to do with balancing accounts?

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:52 am
by Lee_R
AG7 wrote:
john@staustell wrote:Strikes someone has got one hell of a lot of work on. Have UEFA just hired another 1000 accountants then?


No they just got Gill in and he's the one who initiated this is apparently will sit on a committee who will just see all and decide all (whether they can even read a balance sheet is a daft question here, as we all know what'll motivate them and how they work anyway) ... does anyone seriously believe FFP has anything to do with balancing accounts?



At this rate they'll be a new competition for 'Superstar dont give a fuck clubs'. 'The Ultimate World Club Competition'.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:40 am
by Rag_hater
Think we should give up.We had a good run while we could.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:51 am
by Pretty Boy Lee
Rag_hater wrote:Think we should give up.We had a good run while we could.


Nah it's only two goals against Greeks. Your lot can never be counted out. Spirit of 99 pal.

Re: FFP obviously doesnt work then...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:02 am
by Rag_hater
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Think we should give up.We had a good run while we could.


Nah it's only two goals against Greeks. Your lot can never be counted out. Spirit of 99 pal.


At least you are keeping at your level moron.