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Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:45 pm
by The Original Special One
Just hearing our old buddy's just scored two for Yeovil at Wigan.
Maybe we should re-sign him since our current lot couldn't even manage one against them - on our own ground.

Delighted to hear that the lad is still going strong. I never really rated him - not surprising, given that he's got two left feet - but you could never fault him for trying.
And by all accounts he's been working on his touch, as apparently he displayed particularly good control for the second goal

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:54 pm
by ross.mcfc
The Original Special One wrote:Just hearing our old buddy's just scored two for Yeovil at Wigan.
Maybe we should re-sign him since our current lot couldn't even manage one against them - on our own ground.

Delighted to hear that the lad is still going strong. I never really rated him - not surprising, given that he's got two left feet - but you could never fault him for trying.
And by all accounts he's been working on his touch, as apparently he displayed particularly good control for the second goal


I never thought he was up to any standard of football when he left us. Credit to him for still playing at a decent level.

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:28 pm
by Wonderwall
The Original Special One wrote:Just hearing our old buddy's just scored two for Yeovil at Wigan.
Maybe we should re-sign him since our current lot couldn't even manage one against them - on our own ground.

Delighted to hear that the lad is still going strong. I never really rated him - not surprising, given that he's got two left feet - but you could never fault him for trying.
And by all accounts he's been working on his touch, as apparently he displayed particularly good control for the second goal


Are you sure we didnt score

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:04 am
by getdressedmctavish
Certainly showed touch to score his goals tonight, very pleasing to see.

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:55 am
by The Original Special One
Wonderwall wrote:
The Original Special One wrote:Just hearing our old buddy's just scored two for Yeovil at Wigan.
Maybe we should re-sign him since our current lot couldn't even manage one against them - on our own ground.

Delighted to hear that the lad is still going strong. I never really rated him - not surprising, given that he's got two left feet - but you could never fault him for trying.
And by all accounts he's been working on his touch, as apparently he displayed particularly good control for the second goal


Are you sure we didnt score

ok, smartass, I meant to say: more than we managed, between us!
Oy vey!

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:56 am
by The Original Special One
getdressedmctavish wrote:Certainly showed touch to score his goals tonight, very pleasing to see.

It's great when you see somebody with a limited talent work at his game to better himself. Instead of giving up the ghost.
He always struck me as a good lad, also, so I hope he can build on this.

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:12 am
by Alioune DVToure
The Original Special One wrote:Just hearing our old buddy's just scored two for Yeovil at Wigan.
Maybe we should re-sign him since our current lot couldn't even manage one against them - on our own ground.

Delighted to hear that the lad is still going strong. I never really rated him - not surprising, given that he's got two left feet - but you could never fault him for trying.
And by all accounts he's been working on his touch, as apparently he displayed particularly good control for the second goal


Having two left feet would surely be a boon for a left-footed player.

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:45 am
by Alex Sapphire
I didn't think Caiceido was an upgrade so was sad to see him go.
Not pulled up many trees since mind, and turning into a bit of a "journeyman".
Good luck to him. One of ours.

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:35 am
by Ted Hughes
Ishmael Miller scored loads of 'sublime' goals at the younger level & also put in wicked, Kolarov style crosses.

But, like 99% of City's academy players from that era, he had ability but no idea how to play football. If he was a kid coming through the present system, it's possible they could have taught him.

Imo we missed out on loads of raw talent.

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:42 pm
by Mase
Ted Hughes wrote:Ishmael Miller scored loads of 'sublime' goals at the younger level & also put in wicked, Kolarov style crosses. But, like 99% of City's academy players from that era, he had ability but no idea how to play football. If he was a kid coming through the present system, it's possible they could have taught him. Imo we missed out on loads of raw talent.


So what you're saying is, you could have done a better job than the academy coaches at the time? Because you spotted "loads of raw talent" and they didn't?

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:05 pm
by john@staustell
Barry Conlan scored loads after he left us, What a trick we missed.

And Ade Mike, and.............etc etc

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:42 pm
by The Original Special One
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Having two left feet would surely be a boon for a left-footed player.

What about when you need him to cut inside to his right?

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:44 pm
by The Original Special One
Alex Sapphire wrote:I didn't think Caicedo was an upgrade so was sad to see him go.
Not pulled up many trees since mind, and turning into a bit of a "journeyman".
Good luck to him. One of ours.


Caicedo!!. Now ye're talking!
Leg-end!

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:55 pm
by Dubaimancityfan
Alex Sapphire wrote:I didn't think Caiceido was an upgrade so was sad to see him go.
Not pulled up many trees since mind, and turning into a bit of a "journeyman".
Good luck to him. One of ours.


Big Phil is now playing for Al Jazirah Club of Abu Dhabi which is owned by Sheikh Mansour. So he's still ours (sort of !). Scoring some nice goals and sporting a crazy hairdo.

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:56 pm
by Ted Hughes
Mase wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Ishmael Miller scored loads of 'sublime' goals at the younger level & also put in wicked, Kolarov style crosses. But, like 99% of City's academy players from that era, he had ability but no idea how to play football. If he was a kid coming through the present system, it's possible they could have taught him. Imo we missed out on loads of raw talent.


So what you're saying is, you could have done a better job than the academy coaches at the time? Because you spotted "loads of raw talent" and they didn't?


Yes & I could have made more money than EMI & produced more hit records because I have seen talented musicians who didn't make it.

What the FUCK are you talking about ? I'm not a fucking football coach, it's not my job to make players out of them & teach them stuff. It is pretty obvious though, that few City players had a fucking clue how to play when they reached the first team, wheras loads of no mark rags with little talent, were able to step into theirs and do a job.

I'm saying that better coaches could have made better players from some of the talent we had & a better system may have helped focus some of them on playing football. I'm saying that if people like Ireland & Lee Croft & Vlad Weiss, even Sturridge, came through the present system, they would be miles better equipped to play high level football.

We were better at producing decent quality players for City's first team, before the academy was set up. Fact.

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:58 pm
by The Original Special One
Dubaimancityfan wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:I didn't think Caiceido was an upgrade so was sad to see him go.
Not pulled up many trees since mind, and turning into a bit of a "journeyman".
Good luck to him. One of ours.


Big Phil is now playing for Al Jazirah Club of Abu Dhabi which is owned by Sheikh Mansour. So he's still ours (sort of !). Scoring some nice goals and sporting a crazy hairdo.

Does that mean there'll be clips of our boy on YouTube with excitable Arab commentators salivating over him?

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:25 pm
by Mase
Ted Hughes wrote: Yes & I could have made more money than EMI & produced more hit records because I have seen talented musicians who didn't make it. What the FUCK are you talking about ? I'm not a fucking football coach, it's not my job to make players out of them & teach them stuff. It is pretty obvious though, that few City players had a fucking clue how to play when they reached the first team, wheras loads of no mark rags with little talent, were able to step into theirs and do a job. I'm saying that better coaches could have made better players from some of the talent we had & a better system may have helped focus some of them on playing football. I'm saying that if people like Ireland & Lee Croft & Vlad Weiss, even Sturridge, came through the present system, they would be miles better equipped to play high level football. We were better at producing decent quality players for City's first team, before the academy was set up. Fact.


You're one of the easiest to wind up on here, without a doubt!!

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:57 pm
by The Original Special One
Mase wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote: Yes & I could have made more money than EMI & produced more hit records because I have seen talented musicians who didn't make it. What the FUCK are you talking about ? I'm not a fucking football coach, it's not my job to make players out of them & teach them stuff. It is pretty obvious though, that few City players had a fucking clue how to play when they reached the first team, wheras loads of no mark rags with little talent, were able to step into theirs and do a job. I'm saying that better coaches could have made better players from some of the talent we had & a better system may have helped focus some of them on playing football. I'm saying that if people like Ireland & Lee Croft & Vlad Weiss, even Sturridge, came through the present system, they would be miles better equipped to play high level football. We were better at producing decent quality players for City's first team, before the academy was set up. Fact.


You're one of the easiest to wind up on here, without a doubt!!

Nah. THE easiest! :)

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:39 am
by Ted Hughes
The Original Special One wrote:
Mase wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote: Yes & I could have made more money than EMI & produced more hit records because I have seen talented musicians who didn't make it. What the FUCK are you talking about ? I'm not a fucking football coach, it's not my job to make players out of them & teach them stuff. It is pretty obvious though, that few City players had a fucking clue how to play when they reached the first team, wheras loads of no mark rags with little talent, were able to step into theirs and do a job. I'm saying that better coaches could have made better players from some of the talent we had & a better system may have helped focus some of them on playing football. I'm saying that if people like Ireland & Lee Croft & Vlad Weiss, even Sturridge, came through the present system, they would be miles better equipped to play high level football. We were better at producing decent quality players for City's first team, before the academy was set up. Fact.


You're one of the easiest to wind up on here, without a doubt!!

Nah. THE easiest! :)


You think that's me when I'm wound up ?

The Original Special One wrote:
Dubaimancityfan wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:I didn't think Caiceido was an upgrade so was sad to see him go.
Not pulled up many trees since mind, and turning into a bit of a "journeyman".
Good luck to him. One of ours.


Big Phil is now playing for Al Jazirah Club of Abu Dhabi which is owned by Sheikh Mansour. So he's still ours (sort of !). Scoring some nice goals and sporting a crazy hairdo.

Does that mean there'll be clips of our boy on YouTube with excitable Arab commentators salivating over him?


Last time I saw big Phil playing for Ecuador, he was pretty impressive against a top side (Brazil or Argentina kind of level).

He was very close to being a player imo & didn't deserve some of the piss taking he got.

Re: Ishmael Miller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:55 pm
by Dubaimancityfan
The Original Special One wrote:
Dubaimancityfan wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:I didn't think Caiceido was an upgrade so was sad to see him go.
Not pulled up many trees since mind, and turning into a bit of a "journeyman".
Good luck to him. One of ours.


Big Phil is now playing for Al Jazirah Club of Abu Dhabi which is owned by Sheikh Mansour. So he's still ours (sort of !). Scoring some nice goals and sporting a crazy hairdo.

Does that mean there'll be clips of our boy on YouTube with excitable Arab commentators salivating over him?


Well now that you mention it, I'll look for some !