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Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:53 pm
by Saul Goodman
Apologies if there is already a thread on this guy, the search function doesn't work on the app.

Reports out today that we're close to agreeing a deal with him his summer as his contract with Barca is up and he's not staying there.

What do people think about him? Him vs Joe? Does this mean we'd sell Joe if we got Valdes?

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:58 pm
by Wonderwall
I personally think he is better than joe but only because his distribution is better. Can't see us getting rid of joe though.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:26 pm
by Sideshow Bob
would be an upgrade on hart, who seems to have plateaued imo.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:39 pm
by Sister of fu
We sign him and one of them aint going to be happy.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:41 pm
by Ted Hughes
Even if he was better than Joe, if he was a replacement, he would be cutting down our squad options for any other signings, due to the 'homegrown' rule, therefore it would only make sense if he was replacing Panti, not Joe.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:43 pm
by Bridge'srightfoot
No thanks. Also Joe is homegrown which is an advantage.
Joe has improved recently after a terrible start to the season and his blip seems to be over.
As long as he never comes rushing out of his area to challenge one of our own defenders for the ball he'll be fine.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:40 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
There's always been question marks over his command of his area, hasn't there?

Definitely better with the ball at his feet than Hart and probably his equal if not better on shot stopping.

It would definitely create some good competition which can only be good for us.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:47 pm
by Wooders
Joe cant be sensible with his distribution - its a massive flaw imo so would prefer valdes

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:26 pm
by Saul Goodman
I can't see either being happy if Valdes joins.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:12 pm
by Bridge'srightfoot
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:There's always been question marks over his command of his area, hasn't there?

Definitely better with the ball at his feet than Hart and probably his equal if not better on shot stopping.

It would definitely create some good competition which can only be good for us.

Disagree. I'd agree for any other position but it's important to build consistency between the backline and keeper especially.
Also unlike other positions you can't exactly play two keepers or accommodate them both into the team.
It would lead to one being unhappy.

Joe is one of the few talented English players, let's not let him go.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:00 pm
by bayblue
Bridge'srightfoot wrote: Disagree. I'd agree for any other position but it's important to build consistency between the backline and keeper especially. Also unlike other positions you can't exactly play two keepers or accommodate them both into the team. It would lead to one being unhappy. Joe is one of the few talented English players, let's not let him go.

Agree totally. God forbid we ever go down route of rotating keepers.
What I can't understand is why Valdes would come if he's not promised he'd be number one?

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:01 pm
by Spurge
Why wouldn't we want Hart as our no 1? He answered the questions earlier this season and has come back the better for it.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:06 pm
by Goaters 103
Would kick off a shit storm and likely Hart leaving.

No thanks. That said I dont think Pelle rates Hart.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:10 pm
by TheBlueCatsWhiskers
No he's a good player but so is Hart. JH has been excellent recently. We just don't need Valdes. Better a young up and coming understudy.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:13 pm
by Sideshow Bob
Spurge wrote:Why wouldn't we want Hart as our no 1? He answered the questions earlier this season and has come back the better for it.


b/c he will never be any good at 'sweeper keeper' (awful phrase, but anyway) and that is where we're heading. he is just shite at distribution and in 1 v 1s. I think pellers would swap him in a heartbeat if our mgt allowed it.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:34 pm
by Foreverinbluedreams
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:There's always been question marks over his command of his area, hasn't there?

Definitely better with the ball at his feet than Hart and probably his equal if not better on shot stopping.

It would definitely create some good competition which can only be good for us.

Disagree. I'd agree for any other position but it's important to build consistency between the backline and keeper especially.
Also unlike other positions you can't exactly play two keepers or accommodate them both into the team.
It would lead to one being unhappy.

Joe is one of the few talented English players, let's not let him go.


So what keeps Joe on his toes then if he's not being challenged for his place?

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:47 pm
by PeterParker
Valdes will not come here to be a backup plan. We might see Joe on his way, maybe even to Barcelona.

It might be a shame, he finally looked back on his form.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:00 pm
by lets all have a disco
Makes Zero sense to me Valdes should move to one of the Italian Big boys.

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:02 pm
by Cit.revenge
I would like to buy one more great keeper it would push Hart and that keeper to work more an be more focus, we lost at list 9 points on goalie blunders. If is true that Begovic would go to Real Madrid (apparently Ancelotti like him and was trayed to bring him to Chelsea before) i would like more Casillas ( i think hes one of the great ones) then Valdes .

Re: Victor Valdes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:46 pm
by Bridge'srightfoot
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:There's always been question marks over his command of his area, hasn't there?

Definitely better with the ball at his feet than Hart and probably his equal if not better on shot stopping.

It would definitely create some good competition which can only be good for us.

Disagree. I'd agree for any other position but it's important to build consistency between the backline and keeper especially.
Also unlike other positions you can't exactly play two keepers or accommodate them both into the team.
It would lead to one being unhappy.

Joe is one of the few talented English players, let's not let him go.


So what keeps Joe on his toes then if he's not being challenged for his place?

An up and coming young keeper or an oldie who's happy to play cup games and sit on the bench.
Goalkeeper is the one position you really need consistency, neither Valdes or Hart would want to be number two.
Would be a bad idea.