Post derby rag comments...
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:00 pm
OK, so a little bit late, but I thought I should share...Enjoy
I dont think motivation was the problem.
its not just the motivation. they looked clueless at times...and lets be honest...we looked out of our depth...all this after one season?
Sorry if I am moaning a bit, but I am so disappointed with everything, the choice of manager, the coaching staff, but most of all the players.
I would have expected them to show some pride. I feel sorry for the lads who live in Manchester area, their lives are going to be unbearable. The SAF era seems a lifetime ago
Totally gutted
lets be honest lads...in just one season we have been surpased in quality by at least 3 teams...well tbf we should include Everton too. Moyes may not have heard of the saying...'if it aint broke'.....
Scholes is seething. Look at his face...
Another big game passes us by, utterly shambolic.
Gutted. Now we have to put up with city fans sneering and sniggering at us for God knows how many months
well that was fecking depressing
We are the only team who have made Demichelis look good.
United have been atrocious tonight, City were always going to be favourites but United are showing no fight at all.
Booooooo feck off Moyes
This must've been one of City's easiest games this season. They didn't even have to try.
We really need LOT of changes over summer or change in attitude in the team. It is very depressing to see team give up like that at 2-0. The belief has gone totally.
Humiliation on and off the pitch tonight
They are a quality side right now and in Silva and Toure in particular they have two of the best in their positions in the world. We can't say that about us or our players at the moment. But trying to aspire? Come on David, I know you have that resignation letter prepared, get it printed.
It's embarrassing for a club of our stature to 'aspire to the level of Manchester City', a team who have only recently surpassed us as the dominant team in Manchester. Taking the rivalry out of the equation, we should aspire to teams of the level of Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Real Madrid - teams we could compete with just five or six years ago - not a team who are yet to establish themselves as a European force. For me, it shows the mentality of Moyes.
What a shite thread. City are best team in league right now and one of the strongest in Europe. I don't see anything wrong in what he said. Lot better than living in false land thinking quality wise we are up there with the best. Just because City are our rivals doesn't change things.
Every team could aspire to City if they had billions to spend
Postives: - Energy levels: we did look sharp and quick, the players did put effort in. I don't agree we were pedestrian or lethargic. - Players' commitment: every single one of them looked arsed - The crowd. Simply amazing. Negatives: - we were clueless, every single decent attack came for individual effort rather from team play - Fellaini is a fouling machine , he was lucky not to get sent off. I don't blame him for not knowing what to do on the pitch but he is a liability - we are easy to break down, our defending is not managed- which is natural when you shift formations and playing personnel
The most soul destroying part of last night was the fact that City were playing in top gear for around 15 minutes maximum. For 75 minutes they didn't need to get out of second gear to beat us 3-0 at Old Trafford. It's tragic. Also - yet another game where we create practically no chances against a clearly poor defence.
From a starting position of a brilliant squad which got 89 points and scored 89 goals, a squad which needed strengthening in midfield and at full back, we've spent a little over 100 million pounds in 18 months on a striker, a winger, a number 10 and a toilet brush.
Re Yaya:
We always seem to make Toure look better than he actually is. He loves playing against us.
Some people are in denial regarding Toure. He's clearly better on the ball than Keane and Vieira: better first touch, better passer of the ball, better striker of the ball, better at dribbling, etc. Toure has scored more goals than Rooney since the start of last season, i.e. over the last 19-20 months. And Rooney is supposed to be one of the top forwards in the world. If he were a United player, we would be mad about him.
Toure's a different beast to the likes of Keane and Vieira. Their domination was usually based on winning most of the small battles over the course of the 90 minutes, the sum of which added up to control of the game. Toure frankly doesn't have the engine to do that, but his dominance is exerted in fits and spurts and his impact is often just as influential in deciding the result.
Yaya in an attacking sense is one of the best around, but he needs to have an engine next to him to cover his defensive gaps - in Fernandinho he has that. He's a special player who produces on the big stage time and time again
You get the feeling he could pretty much do whatever he wants on a football pitch. He's the best midfielder in the country by a very long distance. Definitely think the criticism of laziness is justified, and one of the main reasons he won't be spoken of in the same light as Keane and Vieira.
It's justified, but City address that perceived 'laziness' by compensating for it with Fernandinho in the team. I would go as far to say that, despite City being more or less on the front foot against any opposition, they need a truly elite defensive midfielder in the mould of Fernandinho given Toure's license to attack and unwillingness to track back and defend. City actually have the two best central midfielders in the country, let alone just Toure. Both are absolutely incredible players.
You honestly think Toure was better than Carrick last year, really? Maybe you should watch highlights of his masterful performance in City's biggest match of last season, against the mighty Wigan Athletic.
I think Toure could have played on his own and still had Carrick, Fellaini and Cleverley in his pocket.
Re: Merlin
Delightful player but we made it easy for him, especially in the first minutes. Nevertheless, he's such a sublime player. There are three City players I'd have ahead of him though.
He's amazing, I'd put him in top 3 of the best players in the PL.
Technique wise it doesn't get any better than Silva, he's as close to perfection as you will find.
He's awesome. I said earlier that he isn't getting enough credit. The ball just seems to stick to his foot.
Meh, Silva is a funny one. He's lovely to watch. He's great at keeping the ball under pressure, his passing is fantastic and he dictates play very, very well. Yet, and I said this before he signed for us, but I'd take Mata every time. At the end of the day, without being as glamorous, Mata is similarly silky on the ball, has excellent vision, yet just produces much, much more.
Mata doesn't produce much much more. Mata quite simply can't do what silva can do with the ball at his feet. Silva is magic, drives the team forward, and knits everything together. By your definition of what makes mata better you'd probably argue that he's also better than iniesta, which he isn't
The thing is Silva is still statistically this leagues most creative player, and he has been for the last 3 seasons. People want to talk about stats, this season he has 7 assists only 1 behind Ozil and 2 behind the frontrunners Rooney and Gerrard. In the 11/12 season he had the most assists in the league, Mata had 2 less than him. The only thing he has never really had is goals, but productivity wise he has proven to be more creative than Mata in the last few seasons.