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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby clawbaggio » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:33 am

We have only taken 8 points out of 18 against the bottom 3 teams in the league. Hardly title winning form.

I hate to say it but the Rags in their pomp would be taking all 18 every time. But hey, typical City eh?
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Sister of fu » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:48 am

I feel sick about it if honest. We had a huge chance this season and have fluffed our lines big time in the last two weeks. Two draws, one win and a defeat. Next season I think you can throw Man U back into the mix with a stronger Liverpool and Chelsea, are Spurs going to be so poor again??

Where do we go from here? This season is turning into another damp squib and as equally disappointing as last season. Yeah we have won the Carling Cup but IMO that is not enough for this group of players. The premier league has to be our aim and priority with the Champions League and then the cups secondary next season.

As for the fans, we are as disappointing as the team and the moment. Empty seats everywhere and zero atmosphere. What has gone wrong?? Giving serous consideration to just following us away from home. Something needs to happen and fast. You would never have thought we were going for a league title in the last two home games. Really gutting.
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Nick » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:51 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Empty seats, no backing for the team just moaning, a manager who just lets a key game drift when he can see we are in danger of fucking it up, players with no discipline in any area of the pitch (the free kicks we gave away out wide, first half, were a sign that the whole team had their heads up their arses.)

Liverpool are fighting & playing above themselves & the fans are right up for it. Chelsea have an inferior squad but are grafting through games.

We have everything going for us, top players throughout the squad, & we are consistently pissing away chance after chance, with stupid fucking brainless mistakes & the fans can barely raise a bit of a cheer half the time, when they can be arsed to turn up.

Tonight wasn't a team fighting for the title, either players fans or manager; it was a waste of fucking time. I hated being there.


100%

im sorry but we need to do away with mid week games because the atmosphere is bad enough on week games.

I can rarely make mid week night games and look what happens when I can't............ (tounge in cheek)
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Benjay » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:11 am

We totally lack that Andy Morrison type grit and determination. The killer instinct. We score a goal and we rest on our laurels. Mancini went on about our inability to score again when we had scored one. There is a total lack of respect for the opposition. We look surprised when they attack us. Too many players in their comfort zone. We want players who want to play for City not for the whopping wage but because we are ambitious. Nasri eptimoses everything that frustrates me about this team and why we are not fulfilling our potential. He goes missing when it matters. He is not the only one. More Zabaletas and Silvas please.
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Nick » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:12 am

Cit.revenge wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Empty seats, no backing for the team just moaning, a manager who just lets a key game drift when he can see we are in danger of fucking it up, players with no discipline in any area of the pitch (the free kicks we gave away out wide, first half, were a sign that the whole team had their heads up their arses.)

Liverpool are fighting & playing above themselves & the fans are right up for it. Chelsea have an inferior squad but are grafting through games.

We have everything going for us, top players throughout the squad, & we are consistently pissing away chance after chance, with stupid fucking brainless mistakes & the fans can barely raise a bit of a cheer half the time, when they can be arsed to turn up.

Tonight wasn't a team fighting for the title, either players fans or manager; it was a waste of fucking time. I hated being there.

I agree particullary about fans, Ok moan on forum all you want but when i see close up of some 20 guys looking with cross hands a fucking game like he is at house and silent Etihad when u have game for title i would brake my tv. I don't watch 60% of the game when i m on game , You are on game to cheer and make roarrrs . Also players wtf was that?! And can anybody say to me why Aguero is nowhere and why start game with two up front one did not score goal since decembar second just come back and plus we do not have midfield (two importan players that we do not have sub for), and if u see that crap after first half then save that 1 0 , bring on midfielder and play with one up front. Fans did not deserve i ,players did not deserve it ,neither Peller's is deserve a title. I can't believe how crap was Milner last night and play all game ,and Hart i just average keeper i must say that (goal from angle in hes corner. Where he was standing it s like player is coming from centar at him),he save some but he take away all he save.


spot on.
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Nick » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:13 am

Nick wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Empty seats, no backing for the team just moaning, a manager who just lets a key game drift when he can see we are in danger of fucking it up, players with no discipline in any area of the pitch (the free kicks we gave away out wide, first half, were a sign that the whole team had their heads up their arses.)

Liverpool are fighting & playing above themselves & the fans are right up for it. Chelsea have an inferior squad but are grafting through games.

We have everything going for us, top players throughout the squad, & we are consistently pissing away chance after chance, with stupid fucking brainless mistakes & the fans can barely raise a bit of a cheer half the time, when they can be arsed to turn up.

Tonight wasn't a team fighting for the title, either players fans or manager; it was a waste of fucking time. I hated being there.


100%

im sorry but we need to do away with mid week games because the atmosphere is bad enough on weekend, saturday 3pm games.

I can rarely make mid week night games and look what happens when I can't............ (tounge in cheek)
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Crossie » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:51 am

We've gone up our own arses.

We expect to beat everyone 5-0 and be royally entertained as its done.

We are partly responsible. Imagine the Liverpool game atmosphere being created by us last night, would we have drawn? Would we fuck, we'd have pumped them 6-0. Its fucking wank that we can create a better atmosphere in the 3rd league tier when we're 11th in that league than we can when we're fighting for the league title in the best league in the world.

The fact is we've been spoilt. After years of bullshit, we see some glory and expect it every year. It doesn't happen like that.

You NEVER give up, you never say die, you fight for every inch and have Pride In Battle.
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby gilford » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:02 am

Crossie wrote:
You NEVER give up, you never say die, you fight for every inch and have Pride In Battle.



If only our players would recognise this! It seems everyone BUT the players do!
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby ross.mcfc » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:19 am

It is a rare on any football message board for a post which bags the fans and the team to get a mostly measured and thought out response.

I could not agree with the OP more. We really do not deserve to win the title and even if we go on by some sort of miracle to win the title it will be one that we won by default.

The tempo of our game and the atmosphere in the ground last night was one which suited an end of season game that meant fuck all. I wonder if those two things are linked.

Our home crowd’s attitude towards games these days is getting embarrassing. We used to slag of Arsenal and Man United but I reckon we are worse than that these days. I have a few theories on why that is.

a) Fans are too spoilt
b) We won the league once and that is one more time than any of us thought we would win it. It almost doesnt matter anymore.
c) We are only really interested in creating an atmosphere when United come to town. Barca, Real, Bayern have all been to our ground in the past two years and you would have thought we were playing West Ham by the reaction of the crowd. Would we have created the cauldron of noise on Sunday that Liverpool fans did if we had been at home on Sunday. I doubt it.

Both B&C are symptoms of small club thinking. Our owners want to reach for the sky and dominate Europe. We want to beat United.

As for the team, there are far too many passengers. For the money that was been spent on transfers and wages we are far too reliant on certain players. If Kompany, Zabaleta or Toure are missing we look useless. Those responsible for the buying of players at the club have failed to address our major weakness for the past two seasons. I like Navas and Jovetic but have they really added anything to our season? Those were not areas of the pitch that we needed extra depth. A decent center half and a guy to give Toure something to worry about / give him a rest from time to time has been missing for two seasons now.

We now need a right back that can cover for Zabba and a keeper who does not just hoof the ball back into the area where we are getting bossed about.

I've enjoyed this season as a whole, finishing a tight 3rd is a better showing than second last season without even looking like winning the title. A cup was nice but it won't look so great if Liverpool win the league and Chelsea win the CL. Infact even if they finish 3rd and make the final and lose I would still say that is a better effort than our 2nd and league cup.
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby blues2win » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:26 am

Good post. Just seen Sunderland's second; a real shocker from Hart. What is it with his distribution? Do we need a new goalkeeping coach or a new goalkeeper?
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Mark Garrett » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:32 am

Agree with opening post and that by Rossmcfc
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2009-10 League..................Pld 21 - W 11 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 40 - GA 18 - Pts 38...Finished 5th
2010-11 League..................Pld 38 - W 21 - D 8 - L 9 - GF 60 - GA 33 - Pts 71...Finished 3rd..FA Cup Winners
2011-12 League..................Pld 38 - W 28 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 93 - GA 29 - Pts 89...Finished 1st..League Champions
2012-13 League..................Pld 36 - W 22 - D 9 - L 5 - GF 62 - GA 31 - Pts 75...Finished 2nd

Domestic Cups record.........Pld 30 - W 18 - D 4 - L 8 - GF 63 - GA 36
European Cups record.........Pld 28 - W 13 - D 7 - L 8 - GF 43 - GA 29

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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Goaters 103 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:18 am

ross.mcfc wrote:It is a rare on any football message board for a post which bags the fans and the team to get a mostly measured and thought out response.

I could not agree with the OP more. We really do not deserve to win the title and even if we go on by some sort of miracle to win the title it will be one that we won by default.

The tempo of our game and the atmosphere in the ground last night was one which suited an end of season game that meant fuck all. I wonder if those two things are linked.

Our home crowd’s attitude towards games these days is getting embarrassing. We used to slag of Arsenal and Man United but I reckon we are worse than that these days. I have a few theories on why that is.

a) Fans are too spoilt
b) We won the league once and that is one more time than any of us thought we would win it. It almost doesnt matter anymore.
c) We are only really interested in creating an atmosphere when United come to town. Barca, Real, Bayern have all been to our ground in the past two years and you would have thought we were playing West Ham by the reaction of the crowd. Would we have created the cauldron of noise on Sunday that Liverpool fans did if we had been at home on Sunday. I doubt it.

Both B&C are symptoms of small club thinking. Our owners want to reach for the sky and dominate Europe. We want to beat United.

As for the team, there are far too many passengers. For the money that was been spent on transfers and wages we are far too reliant on certain players. If Kompany, Zabaleta or Toure are missing we look useless. Those responsible for the buying of players at the club have failed to address our major weakness for the past two seasons. I like Navas and Jovetic but have they really added anything to our season? Those were not areas of the pitch that we needed extra depth. A decent center half and a guy to give Toure something to worry about / give him a rest from time to time has been missing for two seasons now.

We now need a right back that can cover for Zabba and a keeper who does not just hoof the ball back into the area where we are getting bossed about.

I've enjoyed this season as a whole, finishing a tight 3rd is a better showing than second last season without even looking like winning the title. A cup was nice but it won't look so great if Liverpool win the league and Chelsea win the CL. Infact even if they finish 3rd and make the final and lose I would still say that is a better effort than our 2nd and league cup.


This is a very accurate and precise post indeed.

Last seasons excuse was that all the players hated the manager - whats this years excuse? Too holistic?

Im reliably told by way too many that Pellegrini is a managerial genius and tactically brilliant. What the hell is a 4-4-2 then - Mike fookin Bassett can come up with that?

Not only a 4-4-2, but a flat 4-4-2 with no wingers; a flat 4-4-2 with two central midfielders, neither of whom advance beyond the front pair; a flat 4-4-2 with the central strikers woefully inadequate to do the job required Im afraid.

You cant play 4-4-2 when of the two up top, one is rustier than Terry Waite's bicycle - indeed Sergio played like he was dragging Terry's famed radiator around with him as well - and the other striker who is so woefully out of touch/form/ability that its fookin painful to watch him. That game cried out for Jovetic and even Dzeko up top last night to create some sort of threat up top. Sadly, and very stupidly, this came too late.
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby patrickblue » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:14 pm

mancitymark wrote:If you were one of the 1000`s who got up and left at 1-2 ....... Fuck off and never come back.

Wankers


Agree 100%.
There's been so many threads on here about this, and it always ends in "i paid my money, I can do what I like"
I'm in 110, supposedly the hard core, passionate section.
Every game starts with people turning up late, half time seems to start at around 40 minutes and end around 60 minutes.
Then any time around 75 minutes on, off they all start to go.
TBH, it actually ruins the whole thing for me.
Bring back the terraces, where no fucker can get out.
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Crossie » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:01 pm

patrickblue wrote:
mancitymark wrote:If you were one of the 1000`s who got up and left at 1-2 ....... Fuck off and never come back.

Wankers


Agree 100%.
There's been so many threads on here about this, and it always ends in "i paid my money, I can do what I like"
I'm in 110, supposedly the hard core, passionate section.
Every game starts with people turning up late, half time seems to start at around 40 minutes and end around 60 minutes.
Then any time around 75 minutes on, off they all start to go.
TBH, it actually ruins the whole thing for me.
Bring back the terraces, where no fucker can get out.


The development of the stadium is a massive chance to put some safe standing in and sort out the atmosphere.

Its also a MASSIVE CHANCE to sort out the traffic situation around the stadium, stopping people from feeling the need to leave early
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Sideshow Bob » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:16 pm

we bottled it. no getting around that fact. something in our chemistry needs to change...roll on summer transfer window.
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:36 pm

Mark Garrett wrote:Agree with opening post and that by Rossmcfc


I'm still too disappointed to properly express my feelings but I agree with lot of posts in this thread, incl.OP & rossmcfc
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby gillie » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:43 pm

There is a banner at klanfield that say's "Dare to Dream" We should have one that say's "Recurring Nightmare"
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby patrickblue » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:55 pm

Crossie wrote:
patrickblue wrote:
mancitymark wrote:If you were one of the 1000`s who got up and left at 1-2 ....... Fuck off and never come back.

Wankers


Agree 100%.
There's been so many threads on here about this, and it always ends in "i paid my money, I can do what I like"
I'm in 110, supposedly the hard core, passionate section.
Every game starts with people turning up late, half time seems to start at around 40 minutes and end around 60 minutes.
Then any time around 75 minutes on, off they all start to go.
TBH, it actually ruins the whole thing for me.
Bring back the terraces, where no fucker can get out.


The development of the stadium is a massive chance to put some safe standing in and sort out the atmosphere.

Its also a MASSIVE CHANCE to sort out the traffic situation around the stadium, stopping people from feeling the need to leave early


Seeing that the whole of 109 and 110 stand all the time, I can't see safe standing areas making any difference.
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby RodneyRodney » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:22 pm

I think letting Tevez go was a factor ; the mad bugger would fight like a wild dog for everything , and that's something we needed tonight
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Re: We don't deserve the title

Postby dick dastardley » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:38 pm

Watching the game last night we were clueless once in the oppos half, by the time we were on the edge of their box, there were 10 defenders, no silva = no cutting edge. No yaya = no speed on the break,
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