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Re: Perspective.

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:39 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:



I think your parents were alcoholics, were they? Did they do things to you? Oh I think so...

There has to be a reason that you are so bitter and angry with the world. A reason why you pretend to be a city fan and come on a city fans message board, purely to wind up real city fans.

The amount of threads you have destroyed is unbelievable. Perfectly good discussions that you want no part of. So strange.



99,9% don't give a fuck,jt's just sad pissartists like you.
Discussion my arse a vent for some para nobs more like


Guys take it to PM, RH if you wish to turn every thread into your own personal view, keep it on topic
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Original Dub » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:11 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
99,9% don't give a fuck,jt's just sad pissartists like you.
Discussion my arse a vent for some para nobs more like


This thread is about perspective.
What's Paranoid about calling for perspective?

You're using every thread to have the same rant at city fans. That we are paranoid and "nobs".

Anyway, we'll try and take it back on topic...
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:33 pm

Perspective, I have lots of that. Shit has been happening each year I have had Blue running through my blood but once you get the smell of titles/cups etc it leaves you wanting even more.

The COC was another milestone for us and very much appreciated but it doesn't bring the same enjoyment as winning the top division, it's the holy grail for me.
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Re: Perspective.

Postby nottsblue » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:18 pm

Lee_R wrote:1976-2011 0 cups in 35 years

2011-2014 3 cups in 3 years (+ CS)

2013> forecast 5 cups in 5 years.

So were on target... and this season is considered a bit of a faliure.

Come on lads.


Exactly. We as a club have historically not had more than 4/5 years of sustained winning. This has all changed. Why then, as fans, have some of us? Enjoy our success cos sure as night follows day we would not have been moaning about finishing third even as recently as 2005
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Re: Perspective.

Postby bayblue » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:49 pm

Good thread title, thanks for starting it.

One thing I'd add re perspective is that coming away from last night I felt the same as coming away after the Arsenal away game the year we won the title; if anything I felt even worse then because of all the Balotelli nonsense. So, I'm not too sure that this team isn't a patch on that one, or whatever one poster said, as that team royally screwed up on several occasions.

I know there aren't too many matches left but I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool screwed up in at least one of them, especially with Henderson and Sturridge out. I feel less confident that Chelsea will do the same as they are just a grindingly efficient and boring team at the moment. But, that means we are still in with a chance and who knows in a weeks time things might be different.

What's surprised me a bit is the sheer venom that has been shown in a lot of these threads over the last 24 hours, other than many of the posters on this one. It's like there has been a massive build up of angst that has been waiting to come out and last night was the trigger for it. I was so disappointed yesterday but do you know what, I've supported City over many years and this has still been one of the most enjoyable seasons I've had. Of course we should, and must, do better, but thanks to the OP for introducing some perspective.
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Re: Perspective.

Postby roblues » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:25 pm

bayblue wrote:I know there aren't too many matches left but I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool screwed up in at least one of them, especially with Henderson and Sturridge out. I feel less confident that Chelsea will do the same as they are just a grindingly efficient and boring team at the moment. But, that means we are still in with a chance and who knows in a weeks time things might be different.


This could be the key to the whole race, if we can get our shit together and win all five. Chelsea getting a point at Anfield is no real stretch of the imagination - their defence is better than ours. Liverpool dropping points away to either Norwich or Palace seems less likely, but without Henderson or Sturridge who knows? If both those things happen and we win our five...
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Saul Goodman » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:27 pm

Lee_R wrote:1976-2011 0 cups in 35 years

2011-2014 3 cups in 3 years (+ CS)

2013> forecast 5 cups in 5 years.

So were on target... and this season is considered a bit of a faliure.

Come on lads.

Thank you. Absolutely agree.

Further shows that you can't just buy expensive players and except to win.
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Original Dub » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:28 pm

bayblue wrote:Good thread title, thanks for starting it.

One thing I'd add re perspective is that coming away from last night I felt the same as coming away after the Arsenal away game the year we won the title; if anything I felt even worse then because of all the Balotelli nonsense. So, I'm not too sure that this team isn't a patch on that one, or whatever one poster said, as that team royally screwed up on several occasions.

I know there aren't too many matches left but I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool screwed up in at least one of them, especially with Henderson and Sturridge out. I feel less confident that Chelsea will do the same as they are just a grindingly efficient and boring team at the moment. But, that means we are still in with a chance and who knows in a weeks time things might be different.

What's surprised me a bit is the sheer venom that has been shown in a lot of these threads over the last 24 hours, other than many of the posters on this one. It's like there has been a massive build up of angst that has been waiting to come out and last night was the trigger for it. I was so disappointed yesterday but do you know what, I've supported City over many years and this has still been one of the most enjoyable seasons I've had. Of course we should, and must, do better, but thanks to the OP for introducing some perspective.


I disagreed with your views a few times, but that is a cracking post.
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Socrates » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:14 am

I made the mistake of thinking we would finish the season strongly like we had each of the last 4 seasons (even last year we made up ground on the clear champions late on) and I had put that down as much to our relative squad strength in depth rather than a Mancini "character" thing but maybe we will just not see those end of season run's with Pellegrini. For me, though, the glass is still not just half full but full almost to the brim. Good football and a trophy in a transitional season is not to be sniffed at even if we don't turn the title race around!
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Hazy2 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:48 am

Are we doing it again ? Making it easy for the player here, in Madrid Anceloti, has won a major cup. His target is the league or the one they want Chumps. We should have had the taste for more, since then Wigan and beaten by a poor Barca, running out of steam, is that what we expected, if yes is the answer, then fine, if Liverpool win the league and Chelsea did a double, how do we gauge it then, this not City og 76, this is City 2014, end of season review, and if Pep is available I would think a change would happen without a blink of an eye. Some players must also be thinking this is not right we have undercooked it again.
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Bluez » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:48 pm

Mark Garrett wrote:For those fans who think everything is alright are living in a deluded place.

This side is not a patch on the 2011-12 title winning side. That team fought, battled, came back on numerous occasions, contrary to some belief we played fantastic football during that season scoring 93 goals and having the best defensive record.

This side goes missing in games, thinks it is better than it is, coasts through games which ends up costing us - see last night, away to Villa, away to Cardiff, away to Fulham despite us winning. Too complacent. Our defending is woeful and we have got away with it alot of the time this season.

This season, we will lose the League to a team who finished 7th last season or a side without a top class centre forward.

Pellegrini may be a nice bloke but ultimately he is not good enough, nor are some of the players who just believe they have to turn up and win.

I didn't think we would the League this season the moment Mancini was sacked, even less so when Pellegrini was appointed. If we keep him as Manager we can forget winning the League next season too. I hope he proves me wrong but so far he has just proved me right that he isn't good enough Manager to win titles


Pellers "mistake" if there was one, was taking all cups seriously. How many games have we played? How many have Liverpool played? Next season he on't have the bedding in period, Liverpool with have Champions league and hopefully we won't be as unlucky with injuries. As someone else mentioned, imagine if we had Aguero fit all season?
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Hazy2 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:19 pm

Bluez wrote:
Mark Garrett wrote:For those fans who think everything is alright are living in a deluded place.

This side is not a patch on the 2011-12 title winning side. That team fought, battled, came back on numerous occasions, contrary to some belief we played fantastic football during that season scoring 93 goals and having the best defensive record.

This side goes missing in games, thinks it is better than it is, coasts through games which ends up costing us - see last night, away to Villa, away to Cardiff, away to Fulham despite us winning. Too complacent. Our defending is woeful and we have got away with it alot of the time this season.

This season, we will lose the League to a team who finished 7th last season or a side without a top class centre forward.

Pellegrini may be a nice bloke but ultimately he is not good enough, nor are some of the players who just believe they have to turn up and win.

I didn't think we would the League this season the moment Mancini was sacked, even less so when Pellegrini was appointed. If we keep him as Manager we can forget winning the League next season too. I hope he proves me wrong but so far he has just proved me right that he isn't good enough Manager to win titles


Pellers "mistake" if there was one, was taking all cups seriously. How many games have we played? How many have Liverpool played? Next season he on't have the bedding in period, Liverpool with have Champions league and hopefully we won't be as unlucky with injuries. As someone else mentioned, imagine if we had Aguero fit all season?


He has used the squad badly IMHO .
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Bluez » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:35 pm

Mark Garrett wrote:For those fans who think everything is alright are living in a deluded place.

This side is not a patch on the 2011-12 title winning side. That team fought, battled, came back on numerous occasions, contrary to some belief we played fantastic football during that season scoring 93 goals and having the best defensive record.

This side goes missing in games, thinks it is better than it is, coasts through games which ends up costing us - see last night, away to Villa, away to Cardiff, away to Fulham despite us winning. Too complacent. Our defending is woeful and we have got away with it alot of the time this season.

This season, we will lose the League to a team who finished 7th last season or a side without a top class centre forward.

Pellegrini may be a nice bloke but ultimately he is not good enough, nor are some of the players who just believe they have to turn up and win.

I didn't think we would the League this season the moment Mancini was sacked, even less so when Pellegrini was appointed. If we keep him as Manager we can forget winning the League next season too. I hope he proves me wrong but so far he has just proved me right that he isn't good enough Manager to win titles


Pellers "mistake" if there was one, was taking all cups seriously. How many games have we played? How many have Liverpool played? Next season he on't have the bedding in period, Liverpool with have Champions league and hopefully we won't be as unlucky with injuries. As someone else mentioned, imagine if we had Aguero fit all season?
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Re: Perspective.

Postby branny » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:22 am

Bluez wrote:
Pellers "mistake" if there was one, was taking all cups seriously. How many games have we played? How many have Liverpool played? Next season he on't have the bedding in period, Liverpool with have Champions league and hopefully we won't be as unlucky with injuries. As someone else mentioned, imagine if we had Aguero fit all season?


We've played more games (13 more than Liverpool) and used the fewest number of players of all the PL teams. The dippers, as good as they've been have played 39 games, had few injuries and got away with a lot on the pitch. They also seem to be driven by the desire to get Gerrard a championship medal. If they achieve it, will they be as motivated next season and how will their squad cope with all the extra games? They may even lose the diving Suarez. Fingers crossed they slink back off to mid table next season, would rather challenge the rags.
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:18 am

perspective is the correct word. Im disenchanted with the game as a whole now though, many small reasons...I suppose the childlike obsession I had for the game since I was 6 years old is finally wearing off..and Ive realised that over analysing the whys and wherefores in anything doesnt do me any good at all.

brendan rodgers is still a cunt though.
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Original Dub » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:57 am

Bianchi on Ice wrote:perspective is the correct word. Im disenchanted with the game as a whole now though, many small reasons...I suppose the childlike obsession I had for the game since I was 6 years old is finally wearing off..and Ive realised that over analysing the whys and wherefores in anything doesnt do me any good at all.

brendan rodgers is still a cunt though.


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Re: Perspective.

Postby Twobob » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:19 am

Bluez wrote: Pellers "mistake" if there was one, was taking all cups seriously. How many games have we played? How many have Liverpool played? Next season he on't have the bedding in period, Liverpool with have Champions league and hopefully we won't be as unlucky with injuries. As someone else mentioned, imagine if we had Aguero fit all season?


Didn't hear too many people using the gift of hindsight and demonstrating that we shouldn't be aiming for trophies when we made the trip to Wembley.

First season in the PL for Pellers and we've won a trophy which I believe was they key goal - win something and advance in the Corrupt League.

The void created by the top three changing managers this season has helped Liverpool along with the much discussed drivers and 'luck' they seem to have found.

Compared to last seasons whimpering out with no silverware this season has to be deemed successful, we simply need to pull our socks up and keep fighting to the end - We also seemed to forget that Sunderland are our new bogie team too.
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 03, 2014 6:58 pm

littlebig wrote:True indeed, Sheikh Mansour's is a long term project. Bitterly disappointing to see this year's title fade into the distance as with last year's too but we will continue to grow and learn CTID



ffs.. this really did seem like reality didnt it!
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat May 03, 2014 7:01 pm

If we win the title, this will be the most successful season in the history of MCFC.
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Re: Perspective.

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Sun May 04, 2014 7:18 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Bluez wrote:
Mark Garrett wrote:For those fans who think everything is alright are living in a deluded place.

This side is not a patch on the 2011-12 title winning side. That team fought, battled, came back on numerous occasions, contrary to some belief we played fantastic football during that season scoring 93 goals and having the best defensive record.

This side goes missing in games, thinks it is better than it is, coasts through games which ends up costing us - see last night, away to Villa, away to Cardiff, away to Fulham despite us winning. Too complacent. Our defending is woeful and we have got away with it alot of the time this season.

This season, we will lose the League to a team who finished 7th last season or a side without a top class centre forward.

Pellegrini may be a nice bloke but ultimately he is not good enough, nor are some of the players who just believe they have to turn up and win.

I didn't think we would the League this season the moment Mancini was sacked, even less so when Pellegrini was appointed. If we keep him as Manager we can forget winning the League next season too. I hope he proves me wrong but so far he has just proved me right that he isn't good enough Manager to win titles


Pellers "mistake" if there was one, was taking all cups seriously. How many games have we played? How many have Liverpool played? Next season he on't have the bedding in period, Liverpool with have Champions league and hopefully we won't be as unlucky with injuries. As someone else mentioned, imagine if we had Aguero fit all season?


He has used the squad badly IMHO .


Yes he has. It's the obvious negative of this season but perhaps to be expected with the pressure he's likely under? Perhaps it would have been different without the "five trophies in five seasons" comment, I don't know.
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