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England warm up v Ecuador

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Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:02 am
by Bianchi on Ice
Was going to start a world cup thread but probably too soon....anyway Jimmy Milner starts at right back tonight v Ecuador. Woy says its experimental but deep down he knows Johnson is fucking shit. Good luck JM hope you play well and make that position yours in the tournment. At least he will play with discipline there.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:19 am
by Wonderwall
Exaxtly what milner was dreading. He mentioned that versatility sometimes went against you.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:31 am
by clippo22
Feel for Jimmy, struggles to get the time to impress for England and when he does play it can be anywhere on the pitch. Will struggle to impress at RB and the haters will be out tomorrow. You do get to play for your country in a WC though!
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:52 am
by Bianchi on Ice
clippo22 wrote:Feel for Jimmy, struggles to get the time to impress for England and when he does play it can be anywhere on the pitch. Will struggle to impress at RB and the haters will be out tomorrow. You do get to play for your country in a WC though!
All england need there is a solid performer who doesnt go walkabout trying to be cafu and plays it nice and simple. I would say Johnson might use this to buck his ideas up but hes had long enough to do that. Even against peru he was furthest man forward at one stage, in the box as the keeper had the ball in his hands. beggars belief
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:56 am
by nottsblue
Shrek on the left wing as well. WTF is Woy doing. Milner isn't a right back either. Remember Curle playing there for one game and got slated.
Why can't we pick our formation and pick players who actually are used to that position to play there rather than fitting players in
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:06 am
by Bianchi on Ice
nottsblue wrote:Shrek on the left wing as well. WTF is Woy doing. Milner isn't a right back either. Remember Curle playing there for one game and got slated.
Why can't we pick our formation and pick players who actually are used to that position to play there rather than fitting players in
I know, I know. Why experiment now. But, Johnson is shite. And rooney is slowly being eased out of the team...in fact, if England do well enough to get to the last 8, which isnt totally out of the question, wouldnt be surprised if hes on the bench by then as woy stumbles upon the formula
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:26 am
by Scatman
Isn't it a bit late for deciding your first choice RB isn't up to the job?
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:29 am
by nottsblue
nottsblue wrote:Shrek on the left wing as well. WTF is Woy doing. Milner isn't a right back either. Remember Curle playing there for one game and got slated.
Why can't we pick our formation and pick players who actually are used to that position to play there rather than fitting players in
Bianchi on Ice wrote:
I know, I know. Why experiment now. But, Johnson is shite. And rooney is slowly being eased out of the team...in fact, if England do well enough to get to the last 8, which isnt totally out of the question, wouldnt be surprised if hes on the bench by then as woy stumbles upon the formula
Firmly believe we will win all three group games. Would love Shrek to be phased out but sadly, I don't think he will be. Has never scored in 8 world cup games and I doubt he will do too much this tournament. If we do well it will be in spite of him rather than because of him. Yes, Johnson is shit. But he plays for dippers, the moral league winners, and so is deserving of a place. The lad Trippier, who we let go, and is at Burnley, wouldn't do any worse
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

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Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:07 am
by Ted Hughes
Woy has got a load of shit/injured right backs to choose from.
If he wants to try a quick experiment, good luck to him. He already knows what the other cunt can do.
He has seen the usual England team & knows how it plays. It doesn't do any harm to try something else. If it worked like a dream then suddenly he has a way of getting Rooney & Milner into the team without having to drop certain players.
For the most part, this international bollocks is a lower level of football than Milner faces when he plays for City, so he might make a go of it in that position & come back confident & an option for City. If he doesn't, nobody has lost anything.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:27 am
by Alioune DVToure
I agree with Roy's policy tonight. Something always goes tits up mid-tournament, meaning that someone needs to step into the breach. When Ratboy got injured in 2006, Hargreaves did a great job filling in at RB. As for Rooney on the left, I can only think that he has in mind a 4-3-3 with Rooney and Sturridge playing off Welbeck or Lambert. With a solid and hard-working three in midfield (e.g. Milner-Gerrard-Henderson), this might turn out to be an interesting option.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:30 am
by DoomMerchant
You guys.
Win all the group matches?
Make it to the last 8?
Holy shit you guys like setting yourselves up for ruin don't you?
Cheers
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:09 am
by Alioune DVToure
DoomMerchant wrote:You guys.
Win all the group matches?
Make it to the last 8?
Holy shit you guys like setting yourselves up for ruin don't you?
Cheers
I reckon England will bag 6 points, but anything from 3-7 is possible. The two teams who emerge from our group should make it to the quarters, and whoever draws NL/Chile there has a decent chance of making it to the semis. It could all go wrong or we could get on a bit of a roll. This Hodgson team doesn't get beat in competitive matches. With a few goals from Studge, we might swerve penalties until the later stages.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:34 am
by The Italian Job
Alioune DVToure wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:You guys.
Win all the group matches?
Make it to the last 8?
Holy shit you guys like setting yourselves up for ruin don't you?
Cheers
I reckon England will bag 6 points, but anything from 3-7 is possible. The two teams who emerge from our group should make it to the quarters, and whoever draws NL/Chile there has a decent chance of making it to the semis. It could all go wrong or we could get on a bit of a roll. This Hodgson team doesn't get beat in competitive matches. With a few goals from Studge, we might swerve penalties until the later stages.
I'd back Chile over anyone in group D. I can even see them topping their group over Spain.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:36 am
by Ted Hughes
Alioune DVToure wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:You guys.
Win all the group matches?
Make it to the last 8?
Holy shit you guys like setting yourselves up for ruin don't you?
Cheers
I reckon England will bag 6 points, but anything from 3-7 is possible. The two teams who emerge from our group should make it to the quarters, and whoever draws NL/Chile there has a decent chance of making it to the semis. It could all go wrong or we could get on a bit of a roll. This Hodgson team doesn't get beat in competitive matches. With a few goals from Studge, we might swerve penalties until the later stages.
If Sturridge turns up for this tournament, shitty international defences will find him difficult to play against if the rest keep it solid & play on the counter. It could get England through a couple of stages until they come up against someone actually good, then they're fucked, or lucky.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

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Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:49 am
by Alioune DVToure
Ted Hughes wrote:Alioune DVToure wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:You guys.
Win all the group matches?
Make it to the last 8?
Holy shit you guys like setting yourselves up for ruin don't you?
Cheers
I reckon England will bag 6 points, but anything from 3-7 is possible. The two teams who emerge from our group should make it to the quarters, and whoever draws NL/Chile there has a decent chance of making it to the semis. It could all go wrong or we could get on a bit of a roll. This Hodgson team doesn't get beat in competitive matches. With a few goals from Studge, we might swerve penalties until the later stages.
If Sturridge turns up for this tournament, shitty international defences will find him difficult to play against if the rest keep it solid & play on the counter. It could get England through a couple of stages until they come up against someone actually good, then they're fucked, or lucky.
Would you have him back here? I tend to think I would.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:54 pm
by DoomMerchant
Alioune DVToure wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:You guys.
Win all the group matches?
Make it to the last 8?
Holy shit you guys like setting yourselves up for ruin don't you?
Cheers
I reckon England will bag 6 points, but anything from 3-7 is possible. The two teams who emerge from our group should make it to the quarters, and whoever draws NL/Chile there has a decent chance of making it to the semis. It could all go wrong or we could get on a bit of a roll. This Hodgson team doesn't get beat in competitive matches. With a few goals from Studge, we might swerve penalties until the later stages.
i think they'll get 4 and miss out on moving on...
i see Italy and Uruguay drawing
All 3 beating CR
England losing to Uruguay but drawing with Italy
Uruguay 6
Italy 5
England 4
CR 0
cheers
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:46 pm
by clippo22
So Uruguay 7 points then?
Thought you wanted more intelligent posters? ;)
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:31 pm
by DoomMerchant
clippo22 wrote:So Uruguay 7 points then?
Thought you wanted more intelligent posters? ;)
I surrender.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:47 pm
by Ted Hughes
Alioune DVToure wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Alioune DVToure wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:You guys.
Win all the group matches?
Make it to the last 8?
Holy shit you guys like setting yourselves up for ruin don't you?
Cheers
I reckon England will bag 6 points, but anything from 3-7 is possible. The two teams who emerge from our group should make it to the quarters, and whoever draws NL/Chile there has a decent chance of making it to the semis. It could all go wrong or we could get on a bit of a roll. This Hodgson team doesn't get beat in competitive matches. With a few goals from Studge, we might swerve penalties until the later stages.
If Sturridge turns up for this tournament, shitty international defences will find him difficult to play against if the rest keep it solid & play on the counter. It could get England through a couple of stages until they come up against someone actually good, then they're fucked, or lucky.
Would you have him back here? I tend to think I would.
I don't think he would get the same space playing for City, & he'd probably end up on the bench a lot, thus sulking.
I'm not sure if he'll get the same space for Liverpool next season now everyone has had a good look at them.
Re: England warm up v Ecuador

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Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:49 pm
by dick dastardley
Ian wright, chile's, and hoddle = žzzzzzzzz