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Isco

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:07 pm
by Fesan
Keen?

Personally I'd cream my pants if we did sign him at last.

I think he would be as good as Silva. I think he'd take us to another level.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:45 am
by phips
i really like this guy but we'd have to sell at least 2 foreign players and whoever else to make enough money to buy him and comply with FFP. don't see it happening.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:01 am
by Beefymcfc
So, we now want sloppy seconds?

Fuck him.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:15 am
by Bridge'srightfoot
Beefymcfc wrote:So, we now want sloppy seconds?

Fuck him.

Bit harsh imo beefy. Can't really blame a young Spanish player from choosing real Madrid over us.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:25 am
by Two's Kompany
Would love him at our place. So he turned us down last year? But to be honest most Spanish youngsters would want to go to Real, so don't blame him especially when Zidane's telling him he's gonna be the next big thing.
If (and I still think it's a big 'if') he will come on our terms and not giving the Big I am, like 12 months ago.
He's just missed out on a world cup and Spain will be looking to re-build with their kids.
What better challenge can a young player have? Come to City prove to everyone just how good you are and get in the Spanish squad for the Euro's.
Think he might be hungry to show Madrid they made a big mistake.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:33 am
by Mikhail Chigorin
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:So, we now want sloppy seconds?

Fuck him.

Bit harsh imo beefy. Can't really blame a young Spanish player from choosing real Madrid over us.



I'm with Beefy on this one and I don't think he's being harsh at all.

Isco missed the boat with this one when he preferred the Spanish Scum over us, so he's blown his chance and he'll just have to live to eternally regret it.

"Sloppy seconds" indeed, which is a nice way of phrasing it.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:48 am
by ant london
I'd have him....sloppy seconds or not. Just like I'd welcome Amber Heard post her dalliance with Johnny Depp.

He didn't ever say anything derogatory about City, he did not renege on a deal....he's welcome at the Etihad IMO

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:52 am
by Dubciteh
I'd take him no probs but it won't happen.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:01 am
by Bridge'srightfoot
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:So, we now want sloppy seconds?

Fuck him.

Bit harsh imo beefy. Can't really blame a young Spanish player from choosing real Madrid over us.



I'm with Beefy on this one and I don't think he's being harsh at all.

Isco missed the boat with this one when he preferred the Spanish Scum over us, so he's blown his chance and he'll just have to live to eternally regret it.

"Sloppy seconds" indeed, which is a nice way of phrasing it.

Like it or not Real Madrid still have a far bigger natural pull than us and it will take years to equal that. They're arguably the biggest and most historically famous club in the world. Young players, especially Spanish players, grow up dreaming of playing for them, they don't grow up (at least not yet) thinking 'one day I'd love to play for Manchester City'. Maybe one day they will but you can't hold it against a player that they chose them over us.

I've not actually seen enough of him to form a solid judgement but if he would improve us then why not? Seems a bit petty. As Ant said, he didn't say anything derogatory or mean about us.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:18 am
by Ted Hughes
My question would be whether he's good enough.

Jovetic is a much better player imo. Perhaps Isco will be much better with regular games but if he had been good enough, Real would have played him.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:00 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
He started 35 games for Real in all comps last season, including 23 league starts.

If we want to bring him in we have to replace a foreign trained player, who?

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:33 am
by Mikhail Chigorin
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:So, we now want sloppy seconds?

Fuck him.

Bit harsh imo beefy. Can't really blame a young Spanish player from choosing real Madrid over us.



I'm with Beefy on this one and I don't think he's being harsh at all.

Isco missed the boat with this one when he preferred the Spanish Scum over us, so he's blown his chance and he'll just have to live to eternally regret it.

"Sloppy seconds" indeed, which is a nice way of phrasing it.

Like it or not Real Madrid still have a far bigger natural pull than us and it will take years to equal that. They're arguably the biggest and most historically famous club in the world. Young players, especially Spanish players, grow up dreaming of playing for them, they don't grow up (at least not yet) thinking 'one day I'd love to play for Manchester City'. Maybe one day they will but you can't hold it against a player that they chose them over us.

I've not actually seen enough of him to form a solid judgement but if he would improve us then why not? Seems a bit petty. As Ant said, he didn't say anything derogatory or mean about us.


There are two different points of view here but, at the end of the day, it'll be interesting to see if Pellegrini would try again for him, if he became available to us.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:13 pm
by twosips
Ted Hughes wrote:My question would be whether he's good enough.

Jovetic is a much better player imo. Perhaps Isco will be much better with regular games but if he had been good enough, Real would have played him.


Worth noting that Jovetic has shown absolutely nowt yet. I know there have been injury problems but even in the games he's played he's not looked anything more than pretty decent yet. So he's no more of a cert than Isco in my eyes. He could come good though admittedly.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:43 pm
by Ted Hughes
twosips wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:My question would be whether he's good enough.

Jovetic is a much better player imo. Perhaps Isco will be much better with regular games but if he had been good enough, Real would have played him.


Worth noting that Jovetic has shown absolutely nowt yet. I know there have been injury problems but even in the games he's played he's not looked anything more than pretty decent yet. So he's no more of a cert than Isco in my eyes. He could come good though admittedly.


I'm not going off watching him at City, where he is yet to begin, I'm going off watching his previous career, where imo he has been a much better player than Isco & indeed also imo, one one of the biggest talents in Europe in that position. He was also better than Isco at the same age for me, by a distance. Injuries are all that have held him back.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:56 pm
by twosips
Oh I know. Just saying he's still got it all to prove for City as it currently stands. He might struggle over here.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:05 pm
by Piccsnumberoneblue

On the contrary, I think he has shown enough to suggest we have a real star on our hands. And if Sergio keeps falling to bits then he may well be needed to shine this season.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:19 pm
by Dameerto
Jovetic has started preseason well - the only thing missing against Kansas was a goal. He was one of the best players on the pitch.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:41 pm
by Original Dub
Dameerto wrote:Jovetic has started preseason well - the only thing missing against Kansas was a goal. He was one of the best players on the pitch.


He is a brilliant player. Only thing that can hold him back is injury.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:19 pm
by Dameerto
Original Dub wrote:
Dameerto wrote:Jovetic has started preseason well - the only thing missing against Kansas was a goal. He was one of the best players on the pitch.


He is a brilliant player. Only thing that can hold him back is injury.


I get the impression he means business and sees the world cup (and a number of our players having a delayed preseason due to it) as an opportunity to get an early start.

Re: Isco

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:34 pm
by ayrshireblue
I'd take Isco no problem. I'd try to do it on a one year loan though with a fixed price transfer if we want to complete the deal. Makes it risk free for us and gets round the FFP problems.