Have a watch, its cloughie at his brilliant best

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Forest v Malmo or Forest v Hamburg. Not much chance of getting match ups like them in the European Cup Final now. That wasn't good enough !
Goaters 103 wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Forest v Malmo or Forest v Hamburg. Not much chance of getting match ups like them in the European Cup Final now. That wasn't good enough !
Think was Piccs, those teams were either Champions of their domestic league or current European Champions - not 3rd place in La Liga or 4th in the Prem.
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Fantastic.
It's a pity that a Brian Clough, in his prime, couldn't be around today. He said what he thought, didn't pussyfoot around and wasn't bothered who he offended by stating his views in his forthright manner.
When you compare him to pettyfogging dullards such as Brendan Bodgers, Agent Moyes and their ilk today, he would have been a breath of fresh air and heaven knows what he would have made of the Fat Frenchman and his cronies.
As has been said before, he was the best manager the England national team never had.
Ted Hughes wrote:Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Fantastic.
It's a pity that a Brian Clough, in his prime, couldn't be around today. He said what he thought, didn't pussyfoot around and wasn't bothered who he offended by stating his views in his forthright manner.
When you compare him to pettyfogging dullards such as Brendan Bodgers, Agent Moyes and their ilk today, he would have been a breath of fresh air and heaven knows what he would have made of the Fat Frenchman and his cronies.
As has been said before, he was the best manager the England national team never had.
He would get the job today. In those days they were scared of him.
Wouldn't have made Gerrard Lampard & Beckham play together though & England would still be shit.
Scatman wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Fantastic.
It's a pity that a Brian Clough, in his prime, couldn't be around today. He said what he thought, didn't pussyfoot around and wasn't bothered who he offended by stating his views in his forthright manner.
When you compare him to pettyfogging dullards such as Brendan Bodgers, Agent Moyes and their ilk today, he would have been a breath of fresh air and heaven knows what he would have made of the Fat Frenchman and his cronies.
As has been said before, he was the best manager the England national team never had.
He would get the job today. In those days they were scared of him.
Wouldn't have made Gerrard Lampard & Beckham play together though & England would still be shit.
Had he been around today and took the job while in his prime and ended up with the Golden Generation, and fucked up, what do you think it would have done for his reputation?
We he have left and got it back together, or would he have been laughed out of any prospect of a job by the press?
Goaters 103 wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Forest v Malmo or Forest v Hamburg. Not much chance of getting match ups like them in the European Cup Final now. That wasn't good enough !
Think was Piccs, those teams were either Champions of their domestic league or current European Champions - not 3rd place in La Liga or 4th in the Prem.
Goaters 103 wrote:What Cloughie did at Derby County was notable. To do it again, and even better at Forest was remarkable. A true genius and he should be remembered for those days when the fire burned brightly than in his later time when the sparkle had gone.
Duncan Hamilton's book "Provided you don't kiss me" on his years with Clough is one of the most honest, incisive, touching and heart rendering sporting stories Ive ever read and in my humble opinion is well worthy of any football fans time. If you haven't read it Id recommend you do so.
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Goaters 103 wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Forest v Malmo or Forest v Hamburg. Not much chance of getting match ups like them in the European Cup Final now. That wasn't good enough !
Think was Piccs, those teams were either Champions of their domestic league or current European Champions - not 3rd place in La Liga or 4th in the Prem.
But isn't European football so much better for all the changes that were made to enhance it?
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:There was a story about Brian Clough after he had just signed Trevor Francis for a huge fee (might have been a record at the time, but I can't now remember).
They'd just had their first training session and when they all got back into the changing room afterwards, he told Francis to go and put the kettle on and make the teas for everyone.
I wonder if that sort of thing would ever happen today ??
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:There was a story about Brian Clough after he had just signed Trevor Francis for a huge fee (might have been a record at the time, but I can't now remember).
They'd just had their first training session and when they all got back into the changing room afterwards, he told Francis to go and put the kettle on and make the teas for everyone.
I wonder if that sort of thing would ever happen today ?? ..............
Original Dub wrote:Goaters 103 wrote:What Cloughie did at Derby County was notable. To do it again, and even better at Forest was remarkable. A true genius and he should be remembered for those days when the fire burned brightly than in his later time when the sparkle had gone.
Duncan Hamilton's book "Provided you don't kiss me" on his years with Clough is one of the most honest, incisive, touching and heart rendering sporting stories Ive ever read and in my humble opinion is well worthy of any football fans time. If you haven't read it Id recommend you do so.
Yeah I've read that.
Superb book
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