FFP - time to challenge it's legality

[Dameerto]

Why do they feel that's a selling point? Why go to the trouble of adding those extra words? If ever logic dictated mechanisation then surely it is in the cutting of pasta.

[Bianchi on Ice]

People getting into a debate with Martin Samuel is like getting into a knife fight with him armed with a handful of cooked spaghetti.

The way I cook spaghetti, my money's on the guy with the pasta.

related, on the dinner menu last night at this joint we ate at...was "Hand Cut Spaghetti." Coincidence?

cheers

It had blood in it? rustic

[DoomMerchant]

People getting into a debate with Martin Samuel is like getting into a knife fight with him armed with a handful of cooked spaghetti.

The way I cook spaghetti, my money's on the guy with the pasta.

related, on the dinner menu last night at this joint we ate at...was "Hand Cut Spaghetti." Coincidence?

cheers

It had blood in it? rustic

Well played. I didn't order it, thankfully.

Cheers

[phips]

have they ever said what the relaxed regulations will be in terms of spending?

[Mikhail Chigorin]

have they ever said what the relaxed regulations will be in terms of spending?

Basically it will mean that anyone/everyone can spend as much as they want (whether, or not, they can afford it) except for one or two 'special' cases who will still have to be rigidly tied down financially, for the overall well-being of football.

Obviously the main 'culprit' who will need to be regulated further is City, because we are in danger of ruining the beautiful game and, in such cases, the existing regulations will be 'relaxed' in favour of far more stringently draconian ones.

[Slim]

have they ever said what the relaxed regulations will be in terms of spending?

Basically it will mean that anyone/everyone can spend as much as they want (whether, or not, they can afford it) except for one or two 'special' cases who will still have to be rigidly tied down financially, for the overall well-being of football.

Obviously the main 'culprit' who will need to be regulated further is City, because we are in danger of ruining the beautiful game and, in such cases, the existing regulations will be 'relaxed' in favour of far more stringently draconian ones.

I believe they are only relaxed if you have the word "Milan" in your name, otherwise it's as you were for the rest of us.

[Wooders]

How much of our "fine" do you think we've actually paid? Surely we're doing it in installments and if so id be on the phone to Barclays at lunch to cancel the direct debit.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

How much of our "fine" do you think we've actually paid? Surely we're doing it in installments and if so id be on the phone to Barclays at lunch to cancel the direct debit.

I understood it to be in the form of withheld payments from UEFA. The money stayed in their prize pot, hence how it was shared amongst our European rivals.
I could be wrong though

[Wooders]

Yeah you're probably right there piccs

[john@staustell]

If I remember rightly (and so I heard later) the actual 'judgement' was so opaque and obfuscated, talk of 'if this that or the other', if we comply later etc that no one outside UEFA, City and PSG has the faintest clue.

Deliberately so, which is good. Could be that in the long run we dont actually lose anything at all, but it looked good for the press

[Beefymcfc]

It was £16 mil that was held back from the previous CL campaign. It could have been a lot more if we didn't comply.

Just think though, that £16 mil could have paid for all the tickets, for every game, for just over 5 years. We could all have gone to see City for free!

Makes you think.

[Wonderwall]

It was £16 mil that was held back from the previous CL campaign. It could have been a lot more if we didn't comply.

Just think though, that £16 mil could have paid for all the tickets, for every game, for just over 5 years. We could all have gone to see City for free!

Makes you think.

That sir, is a very sobering thought. One worth mentioning to club officials when the opportunity arises :-)

[john@staustell]

Wonder if there are any nerves at UEFA?

Is it corruption/racketeering to skulk around in dark rooms plotting to see if there are any fake rules to be drawn up to stop City and PSG on behalf of the 'old guard'? Wonder if any money changed hands?

[iwasthere2012]

Wonder if there are any nerves at UEFA?

Is it corruption/racketeering to skulk around in dark rooms plotting to see if there are any fake rules to be drawn up to stop City and PSG on behalf of the 'old guard'? Wonder if any money changed hands?

I'm awaiting the avalanche. I think we're only at the snowballing stage, at the moment. All it takes is one fool who's not as smart as he thinks he is to open his mouth too much, and let more slip than he meant to. A bit like Delaney in The FAI.

[PeterParker]

What FTP? What rules?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... llion.html

[mr_nool]

What FTP? What rules?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... llion.html

This has nothing to do with FFP. Barcelona's transfer ban is a punishment from FIFA for not following the rules when signing under-aged players.
FFP is UEFA's pet project.

[PeterParker]

What FTP? What rules?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... llion.html

This has nothing to do with FFP. Barcelona's transfer ban is a punishment from FIFA for not following the rules when signing under-aged players.
FFP is UEFA's pet project.

Yes, but if it is FIFA's, should not apply under UEFA's competitions? That is the whole mess of it. It is like UEFA will ban us for using let's say, Denayer, in the Premiership, it makes no sense. What i am pointing out is that the FTP and the other rules, apply different with the name of the clubs, some will get crucified, some will get a hall pass every time.

[JamieMCFC]

What FTP? What rules?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... llion.html

This has nothing to do with FFP. Barcelona's transfer ban is a punishment from FIFA for not following the rules when signing under-aged players.
FFP is UEFA's pet project.

Yes, but if it is FIFA's, should not apply under UEFA's competitions? That is the whole mess of it. It is like UEFA will ban us for using let's say, Denayer, in the Premiership, it makes no sense. What i am pointing out is that the FTP and the other rules, apply different with the name of the clubs, some will get crucified, some will get a hall pass every time.

Has nothing to do with FIFA/UEFA but has to do with EU law.

[mr_nool]

What FTP? What rules?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... llion.html

This has nothing to do with FFP. Barcelona's transfer ban is a punishment from FIFA for not following the rules when signing under-aged players.
FFP is UEFA's pet project.

Yes, but if it is FIFA's, should not apply under UEFA's competitions? That is the whole mess of it. It is like UEFA will ban us for using let's say, Denayer, in the Premiership, it makes no sense. What i am pointing out is that the FTP and the other rules, apply different with the name of the clubs, some will get crucified, some will get a hall pass every time.

Has nothing to do with FIFA/UEFA but has to do with EU law.

It was a FIFA ban, which was appealed and the appeal was handled by Cas.

[blues2win]

MEN reporting unnamed French sources that any relaxation of FFP rules may not apply to us or PSG until 2019 because we have infringed existing rules. Let me get this straight. We allegedly 'infringed' existing rules which are now on the brink of collapse under the weight of legal challenges. I hope the Club realise that it's no more Mr nice guy with this shit. We're in profit this year so the suspended part of the punishment disappears. Our summer transfer net spend will be heavy but any row with UEFA would be next year, I suppose. We cannot give houseroom to any attempt to create new rules to catch us. We must fight if it comes to it. Thankfully Khaldoun sounded determined to push on with our investment. No more 'pinches' can be accepted.