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Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:58 pm
by Vantage
Lads and Lasses.
I've been fortunate to meet Paddy V at the Etihad and in the flesh he is even more impressive than on the pitch, cool, calm and you can tell the guy has serious inner steel. I also recall an EDS game against Chelsea and come the final whistle he was on the pitch and I thought he was going to rip the ref apart!
Is next season the time to give him a run or is it too early for him? Whilst it looks nailed on for Gaurdiola I'm not sure I'm that keen for tikka takka and I'd love to see what Paddy would do with the team (and to Maureen)
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:19 pm
by chef
Thank you for sharing your wish list .
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:23 pm
by Mase
Probably too early for him yet. Depends where we end up this season but I think the obvious plan is for him to do another year with the kids and then take over.
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:28 pm
by Nigels Tackle
chef wrote:Thank you for sharing your wish list .
i just think it's his point of view
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:42 pm
by City64
Taking the OP at face value .......
Imho a club of our stature and wealth and our current situation should wait for no one ! Klopp is available and he never had Messi , Iniesta and Xavi !
just sayin !
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:47 pm
by Vantage
We can't be any more ordinary, I'd love to see some of the kids getting a sniff of the first team (not just dreadful boyata) this summer there will be some sort of exodus of some senior players and why not. If it's going to be a merry go round at least give one of our own a turn?
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:18 pm
by chef
Nigels Tackle wrote:chef wrote:Thank you for sharing your wish list .
i just think it's his point of view
He just dropped another 1 , it reads like the return of ctid(andy)...
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:30 pm
by DoomMerchant
It's not at all nailed on for guardiola IMHO.
I'd rather Patrick than Pep. Even right now. I like the idea of Patrick learning his craft here and graduating to manage the team. Probs not next year unless the count gets his self all ballsed up again and fucks up top 4.
Which he could do the old undead cunt.
Cheers
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:53 pm
by Vantage
chef wrote:Nigels Tackle wrote:chef wrote:Thank you for sharing your wish list .
i just think it's his point of view
He just dropped another 1 , it reads like the return of ctid(andy)...
And I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Sky drop Thierry Henry and invite you on with incisive punditry like that?
Doomie I think you're probably right if Pellers doesn't completely balls up chumps league qualification then he's keeping the seat warm for another 12 months...
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:00 am
by Pretty Boy Lee
Face fucking Palm.
What has he done to think he's ready? This never seems to make the discussion. How many seasons would we allow him to learn without expecting trophies?
More importantly though people I can only think of one person to ever come from youth coaching to seriously win shit and we're all turning our fucking noses up at him? Why have so many normally sensible fans lost the fucking plot? Paddy v next season would be a fucking disaster, am I the only one who sees this?
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:11 am
by kinkylola
I dont think it would be a disaster, actually i think it would help us form a team identity & style, which is something that we sorely lack now, in my opinion. I wouldn't expect him to win a league right away and you're right that we don't know how many seasons he'd get to get it right.
All of that is speculation though, we don't know what's in the owners' heads, or in Paddy's for that matter.
I think he would not be a terrible choice. I'd be a little nervous, but as a person and a leader, I think he's exactly what we need. It would be a big risk for the club, but could also pay off big. Depending on what's out there, and what kind of noises we've heard from Klopp's camp ... I'd definitely consider it an option.
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:25 am
by Pretty Boy Lee
kinkylola wrote:I dont think it would be a disaster, actually i think it would help us form a team identity & style, which is something that we sorely lack now, in my opinion. I wouldn't expect him to win a league right away and you're right that we don't know how many seasons he'd get to get it right.
All of that is speculation though, we don't know what's in the owners' heads, or in Paddy's for that matter.
I think he would not be a terrible choice. I'd be a little nervous, but as a person and a leader, I think he's exactly what we need. It would be a big risk for the club, but could also pay off big. Depending on what's out there, and what kind of noises we've heard from Klopp's camp ... I'd definitely consider it an option.
On what basis would it help us form an identity and a style? Is this your gut instinct based off his playing style or do you have evidence he has radically transformed our youngsters into a well oiled machine in a completely new brand of football?
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

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Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:34 am
by DoomMerchant
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Face fucking Palm.
What has he done to think he's ready? This never seems to make the discussion. How many seasons would we allow him to learn without expecting trophies?
More importantly though people I can only think of one person to ever come from youth coaching to seriously win shit and we're all turning our fucking noses up at him? Why have so many normally sensible fans lost the fucking plot? Paddy v next season would be a fucking disaster, am I the only one who sees this?
Oh that's right... I forget that you're a more qualified manager than him. Shit....step up homie. I picture you as a chunky tracksuit type.
Churros
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

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Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:58 am
by Hazy2
His appointment would be brave an supported by me. I am pretty sure the squad would be better for it in the long term, the way Pellers takes the stick/blame/sarcastic press, would be imo be handled in a more modern way. Paddy would also be my choice over pretty much everyone bar 3. Good thread and well worth a post.
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:18 am
by Pretty Boy Lee
DoomMerchant wrote:Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Face fucking Palm.
What has he done to think he's ready? This never seems to make the discussion. How many seasons would we allow him to learn without expecting trophies?
More importantly though people I can only think of one person to ever come from youth coaching to seriously win shit and we're all turning our fucking noses up at him? Why have so many normally sensible fans lost the fucking plot? Paddy v next season would be a fucking disaster, am I the only one who sees this?
Oh that's right... I forget that you're a more qualified manager than him. Shit....step up homie. I picture you as a chunky tracksuit type.
Churros
Don't own a tracksuit.
I may have taken the piss a bit last time this was raised, but answer the following.
Has pellers won us the league?
After a less stellar year are many wants my him gone?
Does that mean most want us to win trophies every year?
Are there more qualified people to give us that?
Simple really
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

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Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:25 am
by Vantage
It would take some real belief from Khaldoon et el to let Paddy take control but I'm not sure the sporting director/revolving coach thing works in the Premier Leauge BUT as you rightly say letting him in now might be too early. However I would rather see Paddy learn on the job for a season than that fat mercenary tw-t Benetez coming in for a one year pay day and then Pep strolling in. Frankly anyone (even Steve McMahon) could have made a fist of managing Barcelona and Bayern the next city manager needs to build and buy Pep has always had the best of the best on a plate with a machine around him:
Pep: "OK Lionel, when you get the ball, beat six players and kick it in the goal"
Lionel: "Si Boss"
Pep: "Xavi control the middle, break up play and feed the Lionel, he will score, but if you can't get him the ball score 25 yard wonder goal yourself"
Xavi: "Si Boss"
Pep: "Mr Sporting director i think we have an injury worry over Puyol, he has strained his perm, please bring me a selection of the best young defenders in the world from our youth team"
Youth team coach "Si Boss"
Etc etc etc
You're the one for me, Paddy.
Hazy who are your three contenders?
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:03 am
by rosbif cuisson 'bleu'
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Face fucking Palm.
What has he done to think he's ready? This never seems to make the discussion. How many seasons would we allow him to learn without expecting trophies?
More importantly though people I can only think of one person to ever come from youth coaching to seriously win shit and we're all turning our fucking noses up at him? Why have so many normally sensible fans lost the fucking plot? Paddy v next season would be a fucking disaster, am I the only one who sees this?
Oh that's right... I forget that you're a more qualified manager than him. Shit....step up homie. I picture you as a chunky tracksuit type.
Churros
Don't own a tracksuit.
I may have taken the piss a bit last time this was raised, but answer the following.
Has pellers won us the league?
After a less stellar year are many wants my him gone?Does that mean most want us to win trophies every year?
Are there more qualified people to give us that?
Simple really
could you rephrase the question please?
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:07 am
by Mase
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Face fucking Palm.
What has he done to think he's ready? This never seems to make the discussion. How many seasons would we allow him to learn without expecting trophies?
More importantly though people I can only think of one person to ever come from youth coaching to seriously win shit and we're all turning our fucking noses up at him? Why have so many normally sensible fans lost the fucking plot? Paddy v next season would be a fucking disaster, am I the only one who sees this?
Oh that's right... I forget that you're a more qualified manager than him. Shit....step up homie. I picture you as a chunky tracksuit type.
Churros
Don't own a tracksuit.
I may have taken the piss a bit last time this was raised, but answer the following.
Has pellers won us the league?
After a less stellar year are many wants my him gone?
Does that mean most want us to win trophies every year?
Are there more qualified people to give us that?
Simple really
Before Pellers came here he'd won the same amount of meaningful trophies in his managerial career as Paddy. FACT!
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

Posted:
Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:18 am
by City64
Vieira becoming City manager isn't going to happen soon imho . Klopp is available and Ancelotti soon will be ..........
if it were me I would get Klopp , I think his style would be a breath of fresh air and it would bring the passion back amongst the fans and get the Etihad rocking again ! Pellegrini is done , he has failed big time this season yes some of the players have put a half arsed effort into it but at the end of the day he manager carries the can end of ! We CANT have another season like this one , this summers comings and goings will be very interesting huge decisions have to made , we cannot afford to fuck up !
Re: Vieira - cometh the hour?

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Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:23 am
by Hazy2
Vantage wrote:It would take some real belief from Khaldoon et el to let Paddy take control but I'm not sure the sporting director/revolving coach thing works in the Premier Leauge BUT as you rightly say letting him in now might be too early. However I would rather see Paddy learn on the job for a season than that fat mercenary tw-t Benetez coming in for a one year pay day and then Pep strolling in. Frankly anyone (even Steve McMahon) could have made a fist of managing Barcelona and Bayern the next city manager needs to build and buy Pep has always had the best of the best on a plate with a machine around him:
Pep: "OK Lionel, when you get the ball, beat six players and kick it in the goal"
Lionel: "Si Boss"
Pep: "Xavi control the middle, break up play and feed the Lionel, he will score, but if you can't get him the ball score 25 yard wonder goal yourself"
Xavi: "Si Boss"
Pep: "Mr Sporting director i think we have an injury worry over Puyol, he has strained his perm, please bring me a selection of the best young defenders in the world from our youth team"
Youth team coach "Si Boss"
Etc etc etc
You're the one for me, Paddy.
Hazy who are your three contenders?
Pellers & Paddy
Anchovie & Paddy
Max & Paddy