Football Media

[zuricity]

^^^

my point is. I don't understand or see the relevance of the remark about a Swiss President , he or she , gets paid . That person was voted in . No lobbed Scimitar, from a watery tart.

Look at what those Royal scammers were upto today , whilst many poor people hit the food banks in the UK.

[belleebee]

Your first two/three sentences are factual statements of your position and, as such, can’t really be argued with. Your third/fourth sentence, I didn’t really follow (Shakespeare?) so can’t comment on. Your final sentence, I guess, is the contentious part. I don’t really wish to debate this further, simply because of the thread title (and forum), but personally I believe there are far greater evils resulting from the decisions of elected politicians than any of the actions of the modern royals. We live in a very imperfect world and our time and efforts are best directed at the truly enormous challenges that face us rather than the relatively minor creases that some might think spoil what is otherwise a pretty picture. (Incidentally, notwithstanding the above, the fact that Murdoch and his vicious corporation are vehemently anti-royal, in my view provides a prima facie case for taking the opposite stance).

[johnny crossan]

Your first two/three sentences are factual statements of your position and, as such, can’t really be argued with. Your third/fourth sentence, I didn’t really follow (Shakespeare?) so can’t comment on. Your final sentence, I guess, is the contentious part. I don’t really wish to debate this further, simply because of the thread title (and forum), but personally I believe there are far greater evils resulting from the decisions of elected politicians than any of the actions of the modern royals. We live in a very imperfect world and our time and efforts are best directed at the truly enormous challenges that face us rather than the relatively minor creases that some might think spoil what is otherwise a pretty picture. (Incidentally, notwithstanding the above, the fact that Murdoch and his vicious corporation are vehemently anti-royal, in my view provides a prima facie case for taking the opposite stance).

Monty Python (there's a surprise) - FWIW I think there are sound constitutional grounds for our monarchy. Primarily it is the power it denies to the executive but also its embodiement of the principle of inheritance through succession which sustains the family group in our society.

[City64]

The Queen bless her has been truly fantastic for the UK over many decades but even she now looks totally pissed of with the state of a once fantastic country and empire. William and Kate are the future the rest can fuck off for me !

[johnny crossan]

^^^
my point is. I don't understand or see the relevance of the remark about a Swiss President , he or she , gets paid . That person was voted in . No lobbed Scimitar, from a watery tart.
Look at what those Royal scammers were up to today, whilst many poor people hit the food banks in the UK.

pretty rich from someone praising a country whose banks are still laundering Nazi loot from the holocaust. https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-698398

[BlueinBosnia]

Might I suggest you write to our esteemed owner to apprise him of your view? . Also, Switzerland is possibly not the best example to use as a model of democratic principles as it's only 51 years since women were given the vote there! Beyond flippancy, I think one's got to be pragmatic sometimes. Monarchy is clearly an anachronism and extremely difficult to justify on any sound constitutional grounds. Even so, despite being a lifelong (democratic) socialist, I'm comfortable with it as it seems to work for the UK and supported (I think) by a large majority of the British public. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Technically true, but that was only at the federal level. Universal suffrage across all governmental levels was only achieved in 1991.

In terms of popular support for the monarchy, the last poll I saw (probably 6 or 7 years ago) put it in the low 70s; that's comparable to Sweden, but lower than Norway and Denmark, which all rank pretty highly across the board in virtually every democracy index that exists.

[zuricity]

^^^
my point is. I don't understand or see the relevance of the remark about a Swiss President , he or she , gets paid . That person was voted in . No lobbed Scimitar, from a watery tart.
Look at what those Royal scammers were up to today, whilst many poor people hit the food banks in the UK.

pretty rich from someone praising a country whose banks are still laundering Nazi loot from the holocaust. https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-698398

nope i agree with you completely on this , but it is still nothing to do with what the President gets paid, or Royalty. Mind you ,you could ask Scouse2 fans about Royalty , they keep going on about being European Royalty. More scoungers living off the rest of the UK.
Worse than the Battenbergs ....

[PeterParker]

I see that Nunez is not £64m on Sky
With addons

[Dimples]

I see that Nunez is not £64m on Sky
With addons

Do Salah(Diaz) and Mane(Nunez) feel the love or do they feel cheated on?
They earned about 60% of the $$$s they could have, won two prestige trophies in six years and are now being replaced.
But hey they are Anfield legends, that is all that matters seemingly.

[Dimples]

Don't know how accurate the figs are but Nunez is supposedly on £100K a week with Diaz on £56K a week.
If accurate both are significantly underpaid compared to their transfer values of approx £85M and £40M and also what they could earn elsewhere. In addition Nunez is supposedly number 15 in the list of Liverpool top earners.
They are being hyped up as world class but being paid as average players.
If they deliver, it will not take long for them to start demanding pay packets that match their level of play.
More problems for Liverpool.

[kinkylola]

you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just cause some watery tart threw a sword at you

[johnny crossan]

you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just cause some watery tart threw a sword at you

? - if you mean HMQ she doesn't - that's the point

[Sparklehorse]

you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just cause some watery tart threw a sword at you

? - if you mean HMQ she doesn't - that's the point

The point is…….’burn her’ !!!!!!!!

[patrickblue]

you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just cause some watery tart threw a sword at you

? - if you mean HMQ she doesn't - that's the point

The point is…….’burn her’ !!!!!!!!

Only if she weighs the same as a duck.

[zuricity]

^^^^^ Python spoofed everyone and every profession . Their LQBGT or whatever they call themselves and wokeness is summed up in one sketch and name "Loretta".

[Im_Spartacus]

Don't know how accurate the figs are but Nunez is supposedly on £100K a week with Diaz on £56K a week.
If accurate both are significantly underpaid compared to their transfer values of approx £85M and £40M and also what they could earn elsewhere. In addition Nunez is supposedly number 15 in the list of Liverpool top earners.
They are being hyped up as world class but being paid as average players.
If they deliver, it will not take long for them to start demanding pay packets that match their level of play.
More problems for Liverpool.

It's hard to believe that players who were in demand, would move for salaries like that. They also know that liverpool (allegedly) wont pay a huge amount when it comes to contract renewal. Something doesn't add up - there's absolutely no way in the world these guys are moving for less salary than they would have got at United (for example) all for the love of playing in front of the kop.

There must be some other guaranteed payments going on if these sorts of numbers are anywhere close to true - and liverpool are just playing the media with a reputation for financial stewardship that isn't really warranted

In the last deloitte survey I could find for 19/20, City at 351m total payroll, only marginally above liverpool at 326m, which makes you laugh at the notion of liverpool being a sustainably run club. If they are paying peanuts on salaries, then clearly they are paying massive incentives out. But if you dig a little deeper, they have a huge bunch of players on around 100k a week who hardly ever play. We had a squad of (I think) 17 last year, which is admittedly paper thin, but suggests that based on a similar wage bill, our approach of paying more but having less players appears to pay dividends when it comes to winning trophies.

This year by the way, the net spend league over 5 years (now countinho's out of the equation) makes very interesting reading - in fact once we've shipped a few out this summer, we will actually have a lower 5 year net spend than them.

[Dimples]

Don't know how accurate the figs are but Nunez is supposedly on £100K a week with Diaz on £56K a week.
If accurate both are significantly underpaid compared to their transfer values of approx £85M and £40M and also what they could earn elsewhere. In addition Nunez is supposedly number 15 in the list of Liverpool top earners.
They are being hyped up as world class but being paid as average players.
If they deliver, it will not take long for them to start demanding pay packets that match their level of play.
More problems for Liverpool.

It's hard to believe that players who were in demand, would move for salaries like that. They also know that liverpool (allegedly) wont pay a huge amount when it comes to contract renewal. Something doesn't add up - there's absolutely no way in the world these guys are moving for less salary than they would have got at United (for example) all for the love of playing in front of the kop.

There must be some other guaranteed payments going on if these sorts of numbers are anywhere close to true - and liverpool are just playing the media with a reputation for financial stewardship that isn't really warranted

In the last deloitte survey I could find for 19/20, City at 351m total payroll, only marginally above liverpool at 326m, which makes you laugh at the notion of liverpool being a sustainably run club. If they are paying peanuts on salaries, then clearly they are paying massive incentives out. But if you dig a little deeper, they have a huge bunch of players on around 100k a week who hardly ever play. We had a squad of (I think) 17 last year, which is admittedly paper thin, but suggests that based on a similar wage bill, our approach of paying more but having less players appears to pay dividends when it comes to winning trophies.

This year by the way, the net spend league over 5 years (now countinho's out of the equation) makes very interesting reading - in fact once we've shipped a few out this summer, we will actually have a lower 5 year net spend than them.

Yep, taking Nunez as an example.
Record signing, 6 year contract on half the wages VVD and Salah get and both MU and Newcastle were trying to get him. Both would have doubled that salary - minimum.
If that information is even close to being accurate, Liverpool are using some other mechanism to top up that £100K a week.

On net spend, that sounds like the end of the medias obsession with it. Either that or they start reporting a 6 year net spend.........

[johnny crossan]

I have just watched the latest extended BBC news follow up on their documentary about Martin Hibbert, a Manchester bomb victim who climbed Kilimanjaro and planted a rag flag on top to raise funds for charity. Their news coverage started months ago in the stands of the swamp and culminated in congratulation videos from Ratboy etc. Today they had poet and long time United fan Tony Walsh in full flow. Martin Hibbert was a prominent critic of the Kerslake enquiry in 2018 and has been campaigning for spinal injuries ever since - all excellent work but I get the feeling this latest project has been another product of the massive rag social media team promoting their brand in cahoots with our national broadcaster, Sir Marcus Part 2 .

[salford city]

I have just watched the latest extended BBC news follow up on their documentary about Martin Hibbert, a Manchester bomb victim who climbed Kilimanjaro and planted a rag flag on top to raise funds for charity. Their news coverage started months ago in the stands of the swamp and culminated in congratulation videos from Ratboy etc. Today they had poet and long time United fan Tony Walsh in full flow. Martin Hibbert was a prominent critic of the Kerslake enquiry in 2018 and has been campaigning for spinal injuries ever since - all excellent work but I get the feeling this latest project has been another product of the massive rag social media team promoting their brand in cahoots with our national broadcaster, Sir Marcus Part 2 .

Fuck them fucking red vermin

[salford city]

I have just watched the latest extended BBC news follow up on their documentary about Martin Hibbert, a Manchester bomb victim who climbed Kilimanjaro and planted a rag flag on top to raise funds for charity. Their news coverage started months ago in the stands of the swamp and culminated in congratulation videos from Ratboy etc. Today they had poet and long time United fan Tony Walsh in full flow. Martin Hibbert was a prominent critic of the Kerslake enquiry in 2018 and has been campaigning for spinal injuries ever since - all excellent work but I get the feeling this latest project has been another product of the massive rag social media team promoting their brand in cahoots with our national broadcaster, Sir Marcus Part 2 .

Fuck them fucking red vermin

Also to add anything to take the pain away from what the are witnessing on the pitch and over at our place. Long may it continue