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Re: Football Media

Postby sheblue » Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:45 pm

Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Mase » Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:53 pm

sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.


Agreed. People like Tommy Robinson by what you’re saying are allowed their “free speech” as well though, yes?

What about extremist? Are they allowed to throw their views about?
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Re: Football Media

Postby sheblue » Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:57 pm

Mase wrote:
sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.


Agreed. People like Tommy Robinson by what you’re saying are allowed their “free speech” as well though, yes?

What about extremist? Are they allowed to throw their views about?


Yes.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Kippax Sean » Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:05 pm

You can't scratch your own hole in public without offending someone these days. World has gone mad. You're better off trying to live in your own bubble or you'd crack up.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Mase » Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:09 pm

sheblue wrote:
Mase wrote:
sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.


Agreed. People like Tommy Robinson by what you’re saying are allowed their “free speech” as well though, yes?

What about extremist? Are they allowed to throw their views about?


Yes.


Fair enough.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:15 pm

sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.

Perhaps comparing the government with the most evil regime of the 20th century is crossing a line. Ever heard of kristallnacht, ever heard of the Holocaust? Go figure
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Re: Football Media

Postby Dimples » Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:58 pm

Harry Dowd scored wrote:
sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.

Perhaps comparing the government with the most evil regime of the 20th century is crossing a line. Ever heard of kristallnacht, ever heard of the Holocaust? Go figure


Seemingly the Devil is in the details.
Stupid stupid tweet by Lineker, trivializing the Holocaust. Seemingly, his past tweets caught up with him, he had been warned by the BBC over previous (re)tweets. Previously, the BBC had received complaints from lawyers representing Israel, over Lineker's retweet of critism of shooting dead of a promising footballer by Israeli soldiers (omitted was the additional information that the footballer was a member of Hamas and was shooting at Israeli soldiers when shot).
BBC warned Lineker but he ignored that with his latest rediculous tweet, if the Govt were Nazis, (no anti establishment tweets would be allowed).

Yet again, ego overtakes intelligence. Gary Neville is headed the same way. Stick to football and don't get involved in stuff you don't understand.

The pundits supporting Lineker are showing themselves up to be just as entitled as he thinks he is imo.
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Re: Football Media

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:22 pm

Harry Dowd scored wrote:
sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.

Perhaps comparing the government with the most evil regime of the 20th century is crossing a line. Ever heard of kristallnacht, ever heard of the Holocaust? Go figure


His tweet was hate speech - comparing nazi Germany in the 30s where they went in to murder million of Jews to our current government will Create hate amongst the population here but will most certainly be swept under the carpet by the leftie mob .
Can you imagine if the boot was on the other foot !!!!???

Fucking UK - it’s ruined beyond repair .
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Re: Football Media

Postby Mase » Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:34 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:
sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.

Perhaps comparing the government with the most evil regime of the 20th century is crossing a line. Ever heard of kristallnacht, ever heard of the Holocaust? Go figure


His tweet was hate speech - comparing nazi Germany in the 30s where they went in to murder million of Jews to our current government will Create hate amongst the population here but will most certainly be swept under the carpet by the leftie mob .
Can you imagine if the boot was on the other foot !!!!???

Fucking UK - it’s ruined beyond repair .


I find it interesting that the far left are stating - “he wasn’t comparing the two, he was just saying the language is similar” :lol: I’m sure it’s the same people that said Trump’s campaign speeches sounded like Nazi Germany.

Lineker knew what he was doing and he’s done it before. The BBC got bored of it after warning him other times.
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Re: Football Media

Postby johnny crossan » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:02 pm

Mase wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:
sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.

Perhaps comparing the government with the most evil regime of the 20th century is crossing a line. Ever heard of kristallnacht, ever heard of the Holocaust? Go figure


His tweet was hate speech - comparing nazi Germany in the 30s where they went in to murder million of Jews to our current government will Create hate amongst the population here but will most certainly be swept under the carpet by the leftie mob .
Can you imagine if the boot was on the other foot !!!!???

Fucking UK - it’s ruined beyond repair .


I find it interesting that the far left are stating - “he wasn’t comparing the two, he was just saying the language is similar” :lol: I’m sure it’s the same people that said Trump’s campaign speeches sounded like Nazi Germany.

Lineker knew what he was doing and he’s done it before. The BBC got bored of it after warning him other times.

I wonder if the Labour Party would be quite so supportive of big ears' freedom of expression as a TV football pundit if he had slagged off Starmer as a union patsy & pronounced them unfit to govern.
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Re: Football Media

Postby zuricity » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:18 pm

Dimples wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:
sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.

Perhaps comparing the government with the most evil regime of the 20th century is crossing a line. Ever heard of kristallnacht, ever heard of the Holocaust? Go figure


Seemingly the Devil is in the details.
Stupid stupid tweet by Lineker, trivializing the Holocaust. Seemingly, his past tweets caught up with him, he had been warned by the BBC over previous (re)tweets. Previously, the BBC had received complaints from lawyers representing Israel, over Lineker's retweet of critism of shooting dead of a promising footballer by Israeli soldiers (omitted was the additional information that the footballer was a member of Hamas and was shooting at Israeli soldiers when shot).
BBC warned Lineker but he ignored that with his latest rediculous tweet, if the Govt were Nazis, (no anti establishment tweets would be allowed).

Yet again, ego overtakes intelligence. Gary Neville is headed the same way. Stick to football and don't get involved in stuff you don't understand.

The pundits supporting Lineker are showing themselves up to be just as entitled as he thinks he is imo.


Did he mention the Holocaust ?

did he mention Kristallnacht?

Are you both really ,really sure he wrote so much.
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Re: Football Media

Postby zuricity » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:23 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Mase wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:
sheblue wrote:Whether you agree with what he said or not, it's a sad situation when any person gets hauled over the coals for expressing a personal opinion.
Free speech anyone.

Perhaps comparing the government with the most evil regime of the 20th century is crossing a line. Ever heard of kristallnacht, ever heard of the Holocaust? Go figure


His tweet was hate speech - comparing nazi Germany in the 30s where they went in to murder million of Jews to our current government will Create hate amongst the population here but will most certainly be swept under the carpet by the leftie mob .
Can you imagine if the boot was on the other foot !!!!???

Fucking UK - it’s ruined beyond repair .


I find it interesting that the far left are stating - “he wasn’t comparing the two, he was just saying the language is similar” :lol: I’m sure it’s the same people that said Trump’s campaign speeches sounded like Nazi Germany.

Lineker knew what he was doing and he’s done it before. The BBC got bored of it after warning him other times.

I wonder if the Labour Party would be quite so supportive of big ears' freedom of expression as a TV football pundit if he had slagged off Starmer as a union patsy & pronounced them unfit to govern.


Get used to it. The next UK Government will be Labour. The Tories have even screwed their most ardent supporters over . They are finished..

Btw , although i come from Hulme in Manc and am very proud of it, i take no joy in seeing how poor the UK has become.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:23 pm

What a weird cult we have in here.

Fucking hell, are people saying that Lineker is wrong for standing up for refugees who have nowhere to go whilst this government uses language akin to what led to the biggest travesty ever?

Glad I walked into this pub, who fucking wants some?
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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:28 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:What a weird cult we have in here.

Fucking hell, are people saying that Lineker is wrong for standing up for refugees who have nowhere to go whilst this government uses language akin to what led to the biggest travesty ever?

Glad I walked into this pub, who fucking wants some?

Fucking refugees who are in a safe country France, get a fucking grip ffs
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Re: Football Media

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:36 pm

Harry Dowd scored wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:What a weird cult we have in here.

Fucking hell, are people saying that Lineker is wrong for standing up for refugees who have nowhere to go whilst this government uses language akin to what led to the biggest travesty ever?

Glad I walked into this pub, who fucking wants some?

Fucking refugees who are in a safe country France, get a fucking grip ffs

Get a fucking grip, do you fucking understand the laws or has Braverman got you?
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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:37 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:What a weird cult we have in here.

Fucking hell, are people saying that Lineker is wrong for standing up for refugees who have nowhere to go whilst this government uses language akin to what led to the biggest travesty ever?

Glad I walked into this pub, who fucking wants some?

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Shame on you Beefy for comparing the most spineless Tory government there has ever been to the Nazis
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Re: Football Media

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:41 pm

Harry Dowd scored wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:What a weird cult we have in here.

Fucking hell, are people saying that Lineker is wrong for standing up for refugees who have nowhere to go whilst this government uses language akin to what led to the biggest travesty ever?

Glad I walked into this pub, who fucking wants some?

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Shame on you Beefy for comparing the most spineless Tory government there has ever been to the Nazis

Before I get involved, are you saying that this Tory government isn’t being hard enough on the asylum seekers and are you referring to them as Nazi’s?
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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:45 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:What a weird cult we have in here.

Fucking hell, are people saying that Lineker is wrong for standing up for refugees who have nowhere to go whilst this government uses language akin to what led to the biggest travesty ever?

Glad I walked into this pub, who fucking wants some?

Fucking refugees who are in a safe country France, get a fucking grip ffs

Get a fucking grip, do you fucking understand the laws or has Braverman got you?

I understand the fucking rules more than you, the 1948 convention says refugees should seek asylum in the first safe country. What fucking part of that do you not fucking understand?
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Re: Football Media

Postby Outcast » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:48 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:What a weird cult we have in here.

Fucking hell, are people saying that Lineker is wrong for standing up for refugees who have nowhere to go whilst this government uses language akin to what led to the biggest travesty ever?

Glad I walked into this pub, who fucking wants some?


Absolutely not, I just think the guy is fraud. Nothing to do with being left or right for me anyway. He's using mainstream opinion to gain popularity. I don't think he genuinely cares. He gave it the hoo ha on Qatar and yet, went ahead to present the world cup. If he's really that concerned, like to see him doing voluntary work on the ground to add more credibility rather than twitter claptrap. I think all politicians are fraud, they are all from the same mould just in different colours serving same recycled bullshit.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:51 pm

Outcast wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:What a weird cult we have in here.

Fucking hell, are people saying that Lineker is wrong for standing up for refugees who have nowhere to go whilst this government uses language akin to what led to the biggest travesty ever?

Glad I walked into this pub, who fucking wants some?


Absolutely not, I just think the guy is fraud. Nothing to do with being left or right for me anyway. He's using mainstream opinion to gain popularity. I don't think he genuinely cares. He gave it the hoo ha on Qatar and yet, went ahead to present the world cup. If he's really that concerned, like to see him doing voluntary work on the ground to add more credibility rather than twitter claptrap. I think all politicians are fraud, they are all from the same mould just in different colours serving same recycled bullshit.

Amazing though it may seem, that is the best, most accurate, articulate post I have seen off you, well said son.
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