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Re: Football Media

Postby PrezIke » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:33 pm

On The Guardian's Football Weekly pod I heard two completely erroneous statements showing either ignorance, or poor knowledge, which has added to the show become almost labourous to listen (especially with their refular attack on us as fans from Ronay, Wilson, Glendanning, and Phillipe Auclair) since James Richardson left after I used to enjoy it over the past few years.

1) Jacqui Oatley waxing lyrical over Greenwood and his being "completely two footed" trying to recall "top players" (didn't realise Greenwood was already a "top player") who are truly two footed referring to "Ronaldo maybe, Zlatan, John Terry as a defender, perhaps less noticed Fara Williams in the women's game, not so many..."

Notice how they are all either English or ex-United players. Even if you only watch the PL how can you not notice or include Kev? Of course, there are others out there like you know, Neymar, but who's ever seen him play?

2) Barry Glandenning later tries to explain why we have performed worse, and his first point, injuries, sounds pretty decent, but then when recalling which player refers to the key loss as, "Nicholas Ottamendi."

These are paid UK based football journalists. Sorry, but this is beyond poor.
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Re: Football Media

Postby PeterParker » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:07 pm

PrezIke wrote:
These are paid UK based football journalists. Sorry, but this is beyond poor.


What are the weekly/monthly salaries for journo's there?
Read somewhere that working in the press has become one of the worst pay out there. For example here, a journo at a major sport publication gets around 400-500 euros per month. Semi new-entry. So, of course, there are rumours they get some from aside to write in favour of clubs and players.

Also, the rooster is really poor, so the quality of the debates and columns are really shit.

So, might that be the case also in UK?
In order to get biased and favorable media, you also need to have journo's in you back pocket.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:09 pm

PeterParker wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
These are paid UK based football journalists. Sorry, but this is beyond poor.


What are the weekly/monthly salaries for journo's there?
Read somewhere that working in the press has become one of the worst pay out there. For example here, a journo at a major sport publication gets around 400-500 euros per month. Semi new-entry. So, of course, there are rumours they get some from aside to write in favour of clubs and players.

Also, the rooster is really poor, so the quality of the debates and columns are really shit.

So, might that be the case also in UK?
In order to get biased and favorable media, you also need to have journo's in you back pocket.

It was mentioned earlier in the season that some journalists are actually paid to write and regurgitate negative stories and it was quickly established that certain personnel and outlets were being employed to do just that. It only becomes clear once the evidence is pointed out, until then it’s easy to point at people who have seen it and accuse them of Tin-Foil Hat status.

I read an article in the barbers many years ago, think it was GQ, which gave rise to the awareness of the media’s inclination to print ‘Fake News’. This was well before Trump coined the phrase and it showed instances dating back to Kennedy and before.

I’ve always had an issue with the media as they all have some form of agenda and try to influence proceedings, but what we don’t like to believe is that it would happen in our national sport. We want to believe that it’s all above board and that there is no real corruption in the game, otherwise the great British press would rout it out and keep us safe.

After many years of naivety and ignorance, we now are acutely aware of how the media works, and it’s not about integrity and sportsmanship, it’s about self-preservation and commercial interests.
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Re: Football Media

Postby PeterParker » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:54 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
These are paid UK based football journalists. Sorry, but this is beyond poor.


What are the weekly/monthly salaries for journo's there?
Read somewhere that working in the press has become one of the worst pay out there. For example here, a journo at a major sport publication gets around 400-500 euros per month. Semi new-entry. So, of course, there are rumours they get some from aside to write in favour of clubs and players.

Also, the rooster is really poor, so the quality of the debates and columns are really shit.

So, might that be the case also in UK?
In order to get biased and favorable media, you also need to have journo's in you back pocket.

It was mentioned earlier in the season that some journalists are actually paid to write and regurgitate negative stories and it was quickly established that certain personnel and outlets were being employed to do just that. It only becomes clear once the evidence is pointed out, until then it’s easy to point at people who have seen it and accuse them of Tin-Foil Hat status.

I read an article in the barbers many years ago, think it was GQ, which gave rise to the awareness of the media’s inclination to print ‘Fake News’. This was well before Trump coined the phrase and it showed instances dating back to Kennedy and before.

I’ve always had an issue with the media as they all have some form of agenda and try to influence proceedings, but what we don’t like to believe is that it would happen in our national sport. We want to believe that it’s all above board and that there is no real corruption in the game, otherwise the great British press would rout it out and keep us safe.

After many years of naivety and ignorance, we now are acutely aware of how the media works, and it’s not about integrity and sportsmanship, it’s about self-preservation and commercial interests.


I don't think there is a mistery to anyone out there that the journo's are paid to write in someone's favour. I think the new media actually killed journalism, because instead of proper investigation and fair reporters, the field was filled up with leaches.
Many sites live from reach and clicks, and how can they do that without writing favorable things about the rags and scouse?

For example, here, of course it is not proven, but it similar to "there is no agenda against City", the football agents use their "house reporters" to make stories about their players in order they will get the real interes (if any) to bid more because there is an "offer on the table".
Watched a local game last night with a team that is said that has a powerfull political supporter and they got a favorable decision which was really bent, and I've heard the commentator trying to convince the audience it was fair. How many times did we hear that with us?

So, I think if we want good press, we need to buy cunts, but do we really want to do that?
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Re: Football Media

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:40 am

PeterParker wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
These are paid UK based football journalists. Sorry, but this is beyond poor.


What are the weekly/monthly salaries for journo's there?
Read somewhere that working in the press has become one of the worst pay out there. For example here, a journo at a major sport publication gets around 400-500 euros per month. Semi new-entry. So, of course, there are rumours they get some from aside to write in favour of clubs and players.

Also, the rooster is really poor, so the quality of the debates and columns are really shit.

So, might that be the case also in UK?
In order to get biased and favorable media, you also need to have journo's in you back pocket.

It was mentioned earlier in the season that some journalists are actually paid to write and regurgitate negative stories and it was quickly established that certain personnel and outlets were being employed to do just that. It only becomes clear once the evidence is pointed out, until then it’s easy to point at people who have seen it and accuse them of Tin-Foil Hat status.

I read an article in the barbers many years ago, think it was GQ, which gave rise to the awareness of the media’s inclination to print ‘Fake News’. This was well before Trump coined the phrase and it showed instances dating back to Kennedy and before.

I’ve always had an issue with the media as they all have some form of agenda and try to influence proceedings, but what we don’t like to believe is that it would happen in our national sport. We want to believe that it’s all above board and that there is no real corruption in the game, otherwise the great British press would rout it out and keep us safe.

After many years of naivety and ignorance, we now are acutely aware of how the media works, and it’s not about integrity and sportsmanship, it’s about self-preservation and commercial interests.


I don't think there is a mistery to anyone out there that the journo's are paid to write in someone's favour. I think the new media actually killed journalism, because instead of proper investigation and fair reporters, the field was filled up with leaches.
Many sites live from reach and clicks, and how can they do that without writing favorable things about the rags and scouse?

For example, here, of course it is not proven, but it similar to "there is no agenda against City", the football agents use their "house reporters" to make stories about their players in order they will get the real interes (if any) to bid more because there is an "offer on the table".
Watched a local game last night with a team that is said that has a powerfull political supporter and they got a favorable decision which was really bent, and I've heard the commentator trying to convince the audience it was fair. How many times did we hear that with us?

So, I think if we want good press, we need to buy cunts, but do we really want to do that?
Fuck the media. With all of their adversity, we still are the best English club of the decade.

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Re: Football Media

Postby Tru_Blu » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:54 am

Its finally been said



“BUT, Liverpool have got to win it again next season to be considered a great team.

“They’ve got to win it again, they can’t be waiting another 30 years.

“And I’m going to have pop at Klopp now – he tosses off two cups. When was the last time you saw Liverpool go deep in a domestic cup competition?

“If you look back over the last 20 years since the money has come into the game, you’ve see great teams – Manchester United’s treble-winning side, Chelsea’s double-winning side, Manchester City’s domestic treble-winning side, Arsenal’s double-winning side.

“City this year, credit to Pep, think about what they’re doing again this season, they could win the Champions League and they could win the FA Cup.

“And you know what? If they do that, they’ve had a better season than Liverpool!”
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Re: Football Media

Postby City64 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:04 am

Brilliant piece from Robbie Savage doing the rounds this morning. Didn’t really expect him to get our situation but he has magnificently , nice one !
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Re: Football Media

Postby belleebee » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:43 am

City64 wrote:Brilliant piece from Robbie Savage doing the rounds this morning. Didn’t really expect him to get our situation but he has magnificently , nice one !


Also a lovely appreciation of David Silva in the Grauniad, written by Simon Hattenstone who appears to be a proper City fan (how on earth did he get a job with the Grauniad?):

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... inal-trick

After the last few days it's nice to see some positive things being written about City in the media (on the other hand, who gives a f*ck).
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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:16 pm

There seems to be a bit of a narrative developing that the dippers need to bag more trophies in one season than just the one, to be rated a great team, in addition to Savage some other journos are quoting the City domestic treble, the rag treble of 1999 and the rags doing the double. Klopp has made no secret that he will not risk his players in domestic cups, be interesting to see if that changes next season.
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Re: Football Media

Postby nottsblue » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:46 pm

belleebee wrote:
City64 wrote:Brilliant piece from Robbie Savage doing the rounds this morning. Didn’t really expect him to get our situation but he has magnificently , nice one !


Also a lovely appreciation of David Silva in the Grauniad, written by Simon Hattenstone who appears to be a proper City fan (how on earth did he get a job with the Grauniad?):

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... inal-trick

After the last few days it's nice to see some positive things being written about City in the media (on the other hand, who gives a f*ck).

Astonishing article from the guardian. Usually it's just hatred and lies and bile

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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:57 pm

Just found out that Raddy Antic the guy who scored Luton’s goal at main road that relegated City in 1983 (I think) has died recently, was at that game, Pleat running onto the pitch like a dick, put it on media because I heard via media
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Re: Football Media

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:01 pm

Harry Dowd scored wrote:Just found out that Raddy Antic the guy who scored Luton’s goal at main road that relegated City in 1983 (I think) has died recently, was at that game, Pleat running onto the pitch like a dick, put it on media because I heard via media


I was also at that game - outside after the match it was mayhem....black Maria got turned over and police on horseback trying to control the City fans.

I cried all the way back to Romily that day.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:07 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Just found out that Raddy Antic the guy who scored Luton’s goal at main road that relegated City in 1983 (I think) has died recently, was at that game, Pleat running onto the pitch like a dick, put it on media because I heard via media


I was also at that game - outside after the match it was mayhem....black Maria got turned over and police on horseback trying to control the City fans.

I cried all the way back to Romily that day.

My mate blame Williams for that goal, said he did a superman type dive, never understood what he meant -:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyAUkaC6nsI

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Re: Football Media

Postby Simister » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:41 pm

At last ....

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Re: Football Media

Postby CTID Hants » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:51 pm

Simister wrote:At last ....

We bite back


What irks me about that article is the wording along the lines of "despite City's partial clearance'

Anyone here live in Spain, preferably Madrid to see if this story breaks in Spain?

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Re: Football Media

Postby johnny crossan » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:31 am

A couple of possible candidates for the city hater hack montage on today's Suppository - jury's out on the pair of Daily Fail reporters - Sami Mokbel and his Everton supporting Dominic King
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Re: Football Media

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:49 am

Sunday sup will be interesting - l wonder ho w long before Arse win is good for the game.......
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Re: Football Media

Postby johnny crossan » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 am

Hazy2 wrote:Sunday sup will be interesting - l wonder ho w long before Arse win is good for the game.......

"FFP up next - where do we go from here" intones .....probably not to look at where we've been then eh?
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Re: Football Media

Postby johnny crossan » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:22 am

Guilty say all 3 slugs - a black cloud will always hang over the club - Platini would have nailed them ." 3 more for my rogues gallery :x
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Re: Football Media

Postby salford city » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:07 am

johnny crossan wrote:Guilty say all 3 slugs - a black cloud will always hang over the club - Platini would have nailed them ." 3 more for my rogues gallery :x


That is fucking shocking if true. How do / can they get away with this shit
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