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WhyAlwaysMe? wrote:Martin Samuel of the DM recently wrote about UEFA's dirty attempts to cover up all their mistakes, that nearly cost City this recent Champions League match, against Borussia M.
Here's the relevant portion:

"Just another Platini cover-up
UEFA slipped the news out, quietly, on Thursday night. Martin Demichelis, not Nicolas Otamendi, had scored Manchester City's first goal against Borussia Monchengladbach.
It seems a mere detail, an irrelevance to all but long-shot gamblers, fantasy football obsessives and anoraks. Actually, it encapsulates the official and administrative incompetence at the top of the modern game. How can Demichelis have scored City's goal when the referee, Clement Turpin of France, did not give it?

Had Otamendi not possessed the presence of mind to keep playing rather than surrounding the officials in protest like many of his team-mates, the score would have remained Borussia Monchengladbach 1, Manchester City 0.

Now consider the wider implications here. We are always told that retrospective action is impossible in football, that we cannot re-referee the game. It does not matter that the television audience knows within seconds that a tackle deserved a red card. It does not matter if bones are broken, or the course of the match is altered. If the referee has seen the incident, and dealt with it — no matter how inadequately — further rulings are not permitted. Now this. Turpin most certainly saw Demichelis' attempt at goal. He dealt with it, too, by not giving it.

Yet on this occasion, UEFA have no qualms about altering the facts of the match. They are pretending the officials were competent — and all to protect the reputation, such that exists, of president Michel Platini.

His pitch as a FIFA reformer in tatters, Financial Fair Play fallen at the first legal hurdle, all that remains for Platini's dwindling fan club is his standing as a purveyor of big ideas. And one of his biggest is additional assistant referees — the two men that stand at each end of the pitch, on the by-line, to aid the main official. Except they don't. They fail, just as he does, because they are human, too. And the solution to human error has never been extra humans."

The rest of this relevant feature is here, but mixed in with other topics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z3npmX66GG

Original Dub wrote:

WhyAlwaysMe? wrote:Martin Samuel of the DM recently wrote about UEFA's dirty attempts to cover up all their mistakes, that nearly cost City this recent Champions League match, against Borussia M.
Here's the relevant portion:

"Just another Platini cover-up
UEFA slipped the news out, quietly, on Thursday night. Martin Demichelis, not Nicolas Otamendi, had scored Manchester City's first goal against Borussia Monchengladbach.
It seems a mere detail, an irrelevance to all but long-shot gamblers, fantasy football obsessives and anoraks. Actually, it encapsulates the official and administrative incompetence at the top of the modern game. How can Demichelis have scored City's goal when the referee, Clement Turpin of France, did not give it?

Had Otamendi not possessed the presence of mind to keep playing rather than surrounding the officials in protest like many of his team-mates, the score would have remained Borussia Monchengladbach 1, Manchester City 0.

Now consider the wider implications here. We are always told that retrospective action is impossible in football, that we cannot re-referee the game. It does not matter that the television audience knows within seconds that a tackle deserved a red card. It does not matter if bones are broken, or the course of the match is altered. If the referee has seen the incident, and dealt with it — no matter how inadequately — further rulings are not permitted. Now this. Turpin most certainly saw Demichelis' attempt at goal. He dealt with it, too, by not giving it.

Yet on this occasion, UEFA have no qualms about altering the facts of the match. They are pretending the officials were competent — and all to protect the reputation, such that exists, of president Michel Platini.

His pitch as a FIFA reformer in tatters, Financial Fair Play fallen at the first legal hurdle, all that remains for Platini's dwindling fan club is his standing as a purveyor of big ideas. And one of his biggest is additional assistant referees — the two men that stand at each end of the pitch, on the by-line, to aid the main official. Except they don't. They fail, just as he does, because they are human, too. And the solution to human error has never been extra humans."

The rest of this relevant feature is here, but mixed in with other topics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z3npmX66GG

And there it is, in a nutshell.

gillie wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

WhyAlwaysMe? wrote:Martin Samuel of the DM recently wrote about UEFA's dirty attempts to cover up all their mistakes, that nearly cost City this recent Champions League match, against Borussia M.
Here's the relevant portion:

"Just another Platini cover-up
UEFA slipped the news out, quietly, on Thursday night. Martin Demichelis, not Nicolas Otamendi, had scored Manchester City's first goal against Borussia Monchengladbach.
It seems a mere detail, an irrelevance to all but long-shot gamblers, fantasy football obsessives and anoraks. Actually, it encapsulates the official and administrative incompetence at the top of the modern game. How can Demichelis have scored City's goal when the referee, Clement Turpin of France, did not give it?

Had Otamendi not possessed the presence of mind to keep playing rather than surrounding the officials in protest like many of his team-mates, the score would have remained Borussia Monchengladbach 1, Manchester City 0.

Now consider the wider implications here. We are always told that retrospective action is impossible in football, that we cannot re-referee the game. It does not matter that the television audience knows within seconds that a tackle deserved a red card. It does not matter if bones are broken, or the course of the match is altered. If the referee has seen the incident, and dealt with it — no matter how inadequately — further rulings are not permitted. Now this. Turpin most certainly saw Demichelis' attempt at goal. He dealt with it, too, by not giving it.

Yet on this occasion, UEFA have no qualms about altering the facts of the match. They are pretending the officials were competent — and all to protect the reputation, such that exists, of president Michel Platini.

His pitch as a FIFA reformer in tatters, Financial Fair Play fallen at the first legal hurdle, all that remains for Platini's dwindling fan club is his standing as a purveyor of big ideas. And one of his biggest is additional assistant referees — the two men that stand at each end of the pitch, on the by-line, to aid the main official. Except they don't. They fail, just as he does, because they are human, too. And the solution to human error has never been extra humans."

The rest of this relevant feature is here, but mixed in with other topics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z3npmX66GG

And there it is, in a nutshell.

I think we all know Samuel is infering that the ref and his mates may just have been told to make sure we did'nt win but the tv cameras showed them up for being outright cheats.

gillie wrote:I have been thinking long and hard about the level of officiating we have recieved this season and I must say that if I was in charge of the club I would have probably been fined by the FA.I would have to come out and make a statement about the Spurs game as that was tantamount to cheating the officiating was that bad.

The ref for the West Ham game Robert Maddley was so bad it was embarrassing and then we had the jokers in the CL,also some of the line calls against the Geordies were poor.Now I'm not saying there is an agenda or anything but so many poor officiating groups make me think something is very much amiss.

dazby wrote:We'd be stuffed without him. Samuels that is.

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Mike Dean ref for Bournemouth.

gillie wrote:

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Mike Dean ref for Bournemouth.

Well he has been piss poor this season imo.

gillie wrote:As Mr Michael Oliver is not involved in any games at the weekend I will bet he is the ref for the derby so we have no chance of getting a pen even if it's a nailed on cert.

Hazy2 wrote:

gillie wrote:As Mr Michael Oliver is not involved in any games at the weekend I will bet he is the ref for the derby so we have no chance of getting a pen even if it's a nailed on cert.

he will get the rags game.

gillie wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

WhyAlwaysMe? wrote:Martin Samuel of the DM recently wrote about UEFA's dirty attempts to cover up all their mistakes, that nearly cost City this recent Champions League match, against Borussia M.
Here's the relevant portion:

"Just another Platini cover-up
UEFA slipped the news out, quietly, on Thursday night. Martin Demichelis, not Nicolas Otamendi, had scored Manchester City's first goal against Borussia Monchengladbach.
It seems a mere detail, an irrelevance to all but long-shot gamblers, fantasy football obsessives and anoraks. Actually, it encapsulates the official and administrative incompetence at the top of the modern game. How can Demichelis have scored City's goal when the referee, Clement Turpin of France, did not give it?

Had Otamendi not possessed the presence of mind to keep playing rather than surrounding the officials in protest like many of his team-mates, the score would have remained Borussia Monchengladbach 1, Manchester City 0.

Now consider the wider implications here. We are always told that retrospective action is impossible in football, that we cannot re-referee the game. It does not matter that the television audience knows within seconds that a tackle deserved a red card. It does not matter if bones are broken, or the course of the match is altered. If the referee has seen the incident, and dealt with it — no matter how inadequately — further rulings are not permitted. Now this. Turpin most certainly saw Demichelis' attempt at goal. He dealt with it, too, by not giving it.

Yet on this occasion, UEFA have no qualms about altering the facts of the match. They are pretending the officials were competent — and all to protect the reputation, such that exists, of president Michel Platini.

His pitch as a FIFA reformer in tatters, Financial Fair Play fallen at the first legal hurdle, all that remains for Platini's dwindling fan club is his standing as a purveyor of big ideas. And one of his biggest is additional assistant referees — the two men that stand at each end of the pitch, on the by-line, to aid the main official. Except they don't. They fail, just as he does, because they are human, too. And the solution to human error has never been extra humans."

The rest of this relevant feature is here, but mixed in with other topics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z3npmX66GG

And there it is, in a nutshell.

I think we all know Samuel is infering that the ref and his mates may just have been told to make sure we did'nt win but the tv cameras showed them up for being outright cheats.

gillie wrote:

Hazy2 wrote:

gillie wrote:As Mr Michael Oliver is not involved in any games at the weekend I will bet he is the ref for the derby so we have no chance of getting a pen even if it's a nailed on cert.

he will get the rags game.

Exactly and when/if he does the agenda will be there for us all to see imo.

Guy Debord wrote:

gillie wrote:

Hazy2 wrote:

gillie wrote:As Mr Michael Oliver is not involved in any games at the weekend I will bet he is the ref for the derby so we have no chance of getting a pen even if it's a nailed on cert.

he will get the rags game.

Exactly and when/if he does the agenda will be there for us all to see imo.

phips wrote:whoa whoa.

I thought the refs were told by the FA to screw over City? i thought i saw Oliver give a soft penalty to City...AND he didnt give a BLATANT handball on Aguero that lead to his goal. could Oliver be sacked before next weekend's matches?

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:

phips wrote:whoa whoa.

I thought the refs were told by the FA to screw over City? i thought i saw Oliver give a soft penalty to City...AND he didnt give a BLATANT handball on Aguero that lead to his goal. could Oliver be sacked before next weekend's matches?

We win 5-0 and you pollute three threads with this negative bullshit including bringing one back from the dead. Can't you take its spot then?