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Re: Ref Watch

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:10 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
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Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Good angle on the handball



It looks like it hits the back of his upper arm after coming off his hip, I didn't spot it hitting his hip at all on the replays from the other angle.

So how would VAR deal with that? Completely unintentional.



According to MOTD last night the Var people said they would've disallowed the goal :roll:


So, does that mean any goal that comes off the hand/arm will be disallowed regardless of intent?


I think if it stops a goal from going in ,regardless of intent, its a penalty and if it affects a goal going in , should be disallowed.

Yesterday that ball was going in regardless of it hitting his arm.

I do not know why they make a big deal of this when its so fucking easy (With VAR on rare occasions ) to call.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:12 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Good angle on the handball



It looks like it hits the back of his upper arm after coming off his hip, I didn't spot it hitting his hip at all on the replays from the other angle.

So how would VAR deal with that? Completely unintentional.


From that angle there is obviously no DELIBERATE handball. At the very most, the ball brushed the back of his upper arm after coming off his hip which would have actually slowed the ball down on it's way into the net, not knocked it in. If that would be chalked off by VAR then VAR is a waste of space (or the latest agenda-driven tool)......
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:16 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
globalbollox wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Good angle on the handball



It looks like it hits the back of his upper arm after coming off his hip, I didn't spot it hitting his hip at all on the replays from the other angle.

So how would VAR deal with that? Completely unintentional.



According to MOTD last night the Var people said they would've disallowed the goal :roll:


So, does that mean any goal that comes off the hand/arm will be disallowed regardless of intent?


I think if it stops a goal from going in ,regardless of intent, its a penalty and if it affects a goal going in , should be disallowed.

Yesterday that ball was going in regardless of it hitting his arm.

I do not know why they make a big deal of this when its so fucking easy (With VAR on rare occasions ) to call.


Sounds about right to me, it'll be interesting to see how it's applied.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:15 pm

So if an arm is in an un-natural position how do they explain Mustafi pulling back Sergio 1st half.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Nigels Tackle » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:20 pm

for shit use of var (or tmo) see the ireland v england rugby match on saturday. both sets of fans pissed off with borderline decisions.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby harveytravis » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:25 pm

Bluemoon4610 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Good angle on the handball



It looks like it hits the back of his upper arm after coming off his hip, I didn't spot it hitting his hip at all on the replays from the other angle.

So how would VAR deal with that? Completely unintentional.


From that angle there is obviously no DELIBERATE handball. At the very most, the ball brushed the back of his upper arm after coming off his hip which would have actually slowed the ball down on it's way into the net, not knocked it in. If that would be chalked off by VAR then VAR is a waste of space (or the latest agenda-driven tool)......



Thanks 4 that Blue moon. To be honest from where I was sitting in the CB stand I thought it was clearly hand ball . But the film shows that It obviously comes off his left hip and catches his arm accidentally. Moreover it was going into the net off his hip anyway.
Who'd have thought it was such an amazing piece of refereeing!
PS My grandson spotted that at the time. Cocky bugger!
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Scatman » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:16 pm

I was under the impression VAR is used to correct clear and obvious errors.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Mase » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:30 pm

I've watched that video about 500 times and I still don't see where it hits his arm. The ball doesn't change direction at all.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:34 pm

Mase wrote:I've watched that video about 500 times and I still don't see where it hits his arm. The ball doesn't change direction at all.


It hits the back of his arm just above the elbow there is the slightest change of direction, think it's fair to say it was going in anyway. Without the touch of his arm it may have been closer to Leno so in theory he may have saved it but that's clutching at straws.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby john@staustell » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:14 pm

It's blindingly obvious it wasn't deliberate. If it wasn't City no-one would have ever mentioned it
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:42 pm

john@staustell wrote:It's blindingly obvious it wasn't deliberate. If it wasn't City no-one would have ever mentioned it


SKY. Sounes spitting = AGENDA, So if they lose tonight it will the start of Victims moan fest....
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:24 pm

It's not even funny anymore, they can't be bothered flagging when their 2 yards offside, how the fuck do they expect anybody to compete?

Or is that the idea.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby iwasthere2012 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:00 pm

Shite again tonight.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:03 pm

Carragher the Lino should gave stood back fuck off ! The fucking ref should gave seen it as the whole fucking ground saw it.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:22 pm

Aren't ref's supposed to be professional these days?
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:58 pm

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/InsecureFlamb ... mobile.mp4


Somebody (Nigelstackle ) explain this to me.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby iwasthere2012 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:02 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:https://thumbs.gfycat.com/InsecureFlamboyantEkaltadeta-mobile.mp4


Somebody (Nigelstackle ) explain this to me.


Both linesmen were shite apparently.
Oh and the ref.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby iwasthere2012 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:03 pm

Forgot to add. I think finishing is a problem for Liverpool.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:07 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:https://thumbs.gfycat.com/InsecureFlamboyantEkaltadeta-mobile.mp4


Somebody (Nigelstackle ) explain this to me.

Absolutely nobody can explain that, the lino even checked himself to keep a perfect view of the line. I did say it would be hard to disguise it but the thought of the Dippers getting a last second winner was just too much for the PL to give away. They know nobody would care as it's one of their major commercial teams with every propoganda story coming to eradicate the thought that they got an undeserved win.
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Re: Ref Watch

Postby zuricity » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:09 pm

iwasthere2012 wrote:Forgot to add. I think finishing is a problem for Liverpool.


totally incorrect.
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